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I do miss my Samsung sometimes.. like when I need to delete all 150 calls from my wife for the past 24hrs with just a couple of clicks. Or calling to a contract just by using T9 search on the dial pad or never clearing up the call list ( except my wife's) and finding out that I made a call to a certain person 18 months ago and even noticing that I sent a message to him that period.
 
While I absolutely adore my Fold 4, I still think Samsung should cut the crap with these ads and just tout their own devices. I didn't switch from an iPhone to a Fold because of any snarky commercials, I simply found the Fold to be highly superior to my personal and work use cases. Samsung would get more mileage out of just showcasing opening the Fold into a tablet, nothing else needs to be said after that.
 
Foldable phones died once before, for good reason. Samsung is trying to revive them simply because they have them and Apple doesn’t. And in typical Samsung fashion, they’re touting something that isn’t solving a problem or creating a better user experience.

See, I really don't understand this, to the point where I find it highly confusing that such an utterly simple concept can't be grasped by so many. The issue that is being solved is you can carry a tablet sized screen with the footprint of a phone, I'm baffled that you simply can't get much more basic than that premise. Just that simple fact, that I have a tablet sized screen when I need it, and a phone sized device when it needs to go in the pocket, that has IMMENSELY created a better user experience for myself.

Now if YOU (and I don't mean you in particular, just in general) don't like the technology, don't like the screen material, or don't find a use to have a larger screen in your pocket, I take no issue with that at all. It's just these continuous "solution in search of a problem" posts that I can't understand. Take the blinders off and see that there are consumers who want something different.
 
Could someone please explain why anyone would want a phone that is half as high but twice as thick, that needs to be unfolded before it can be used, but still has roughly the same screen size as a normal phone? No matter how hard I try I cannot imagine any reasonable use case.

Try a ruler or measuring device, they work really well. But in case scientific stuff isn't your thing, here's how much the Fold 4 has "roughly the same screen size as a normal phone," well actually has a much larger screen size than one of the largest non foldable phones on the market is more accurate.

PS: Totally unrelated, but wow I can't believe how fugly that notch/island thing looks.
 

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See, I really don't understand this, to the point where I find it highly confusing that such an utterly simple concept can't be grasped by so many. The issue that is being solved is you can carry a tablet sized screen with the footprint of a phone, I'm baffled that you simply can't get much more basic than that premise. Just that simple fact, that I have a tablet sized screen when I need it, and a phone sized device when it needs to go in the pocket, that has IMMENSELY created a better user experience for myself.

Now if YOU (and I don't mean you in particular, just in general) don't like the technology, don't like the screen material, or don't find a use to have a larger screen in your pocket, I take no issue with that at all. It's just these continuous "solution in search of a problem" posts that I can't understand. Take the blinders off and see that there are consumers who want something different.
Great post. I must admit that I am very tempted. My phone contract is up for renewal and I am seriously thinking about getting a Z4 Fold. I looked in a shop, stunning device.
 
The real question lies in the fact that most of us have never seen a foldable screen Samsung device. Then the other issue is the fact most of us in forum are deeply into the Apple system with Mac computers, iPads and of course the iPhones. It is also the fact that a foldable iPhone likely will not happen until the durable iPhone foldable happens.
 
I don’t want a crappy foldable phone.

I want the pure sheet of glass phone from Jony Ive’s dreams.
 
Cool, you can fold your phone but for people that actually work and communicate with their phones simple things like seamless imessage integration for desktop/phone/watch/ipad is 9999x more important. I actually love Android OS and feel it's a better phone OS than iOS, but I switched because nothing compares to the power of the ecosystem.
 
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Folding smartphones are a niche product at the moment. Just hazarding a guess, but what if Samsung is not so subtly seeking market validation for their approach? Once Apple joins the fray they will feel vindicated and can follow up with marketing that they were first, all the while seeing Apple sell their version in greater numbers and gaining the market acceptance at a level Samsung has not experienced to date.

Rereading what I just typed, that seems like a load of malarkey. Probably. It's more likely their marketing consultants just like to poke fun at Apple and this is one area they can certainly use.
 
Curious: is it the hardware, OS or both that you find great?

For me it's BOTH. Obviously having a larger tablet sized screen fit into my pocket is the main draw. But on the OS side Samsung has really made a lot of innovations. Multi screens are handled incredibly well and intuitively. Other innovations like Dex (having a desktop when connecting your phone to a screen) and Bixby routines just put it over the top. Not to mention basic stuff like simply having the ability to have empty space around your icons.
 
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Cool, you can fold your phone but for people that actually work and communicate with their phones simple things like seamless imessage integration for desktop/phone/watch/ipad is 9999x more important. I actually love Android OS and feel it's a better phone OS than iOS, but I switched because nothing compares to the power of the ecosystem.

You get the same ecosystem, but obviously switching your walled garden. With my Galaxy Watch, Surface Pro, and desktop Windows PCs I get the same seamless integration with stuff like messages, actually more functionality.

Edit: Completely aside from the Windows/Android functionality, I also retained iMessage. There are a few apps that allow this quite well like BlueBubbles and AirMessage, but they do have caveats and are not perfect, but still very viable.
 
Just last night I had a team dinner, and one of our team members pulls out a folding Samsung phone. Looked kinda cool so I asked him how he's finding it.

Says he thinks it's fun but the screen is starting to peel away and deteriorate at the fold. There was also dust and debris under the screen near the fold. I asked when he purchased it.

February this year. 10 months.

I will wait...
 
It always baffles me how Samsung thinks people could be bullied into buying their product.
"Oh you don't use Samsung? That's so dumb! You're so dumb!" is basically their message in every commercial.

Exactly.

Just keep putting out those ads, Sammy, because with each one you push me farther away from ALL your products, not just phones.
 
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Oh no, apple don’t sell a foldable phone that costs double the price, has crappy specs and lasts about 5 minutes before it completely falls apart. Whatever will they do? They’ll be bankrupt soon for sure!
 
Promoting your products by mocking others is just so distasteful imo. I’ve never understood brands that do this, and Samsung seems bent on doing it with Apple right now. If anything it makes me NOT want your products even more…
Let’s not forget too, they mock apple for decisions they make, and then do the exact same thing a year or so later. Examples include the headphone jack, removable battery and removing the charger in the box.

How are you supposed to trust a company that can’t even stand by their own marketing?
 
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Take the blinders off and see that there are consumers who want something different.
10 Million Samsung folding phones compared to 1.39 Billion smartphone sales in 2021. But it’s still at beta stage. If it were any good, and people actually wanted them and the price wasn’t ridiculous, the sales would be higher. People are not being 'different' in buying this, they are being swallowed by 'consumer hype' of being different.
 
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See, I really don't understand this, to the point where I find it highly confusing that such an utterly simple concept can't be grasped by so many. The issue that is being solved is you can carry a tablet sized screen with the footprint of a phone, I'm baffled that you simply can't get much more basic than that premise. Just that simple fact, that I have a tablet sized screen when I need it, and a phone sized device when it needs to go in the pocket, that has IMMENSELY created a better user experience for myself.

Now if YOU (and I don't mean you in particular, just in general) don't like the technology, don't like the screen material, or don't find a use to have a larger screen in your pocket, I take no issue with that at all. It's just these continuous "solution in search of a problem" posts that I can't understand. Take the blinders off and see that there are consumers who want something different.
I don’t disagree with your use case, but it’s at the fringe of consumers who see it being a “problem” to have a phone sized screen and because of that want the ability to have a device convert into a tablet. I could easily argue that there are likely far more people who don’t want a larger phone screen, just based upon the sales volumes of these foldables vs standard sized smart phones. Of course this limited volume is in large part due to the higher cost of these devices, which is also why it’s the fringe of users willing to try them in the first place.

And I’m not going to back down on the other reasons why any foldable phone is problematic, in the same way that the foldables back in the early 2000’s all died off. Any hinge is a mechanical failure point waiting to happen. That includes the metal components of the hinge itself as well as the wiring between the sections, the screen, the screen‘s UTG and its clear film cover. And just the change in radius between the back of the screen and the front of the clear film cover is great enough to create stretch and compression between the layers during the fold and unfold process is adding more stress to the hinge (of the entire screen materials).

Yes, I know Samsung tested them in their labs to hundreds of thousands of folds, but a lab is one thing and a lint, coin, key, dust, sand, etc. filled pocket is altogether different and adds exponentially more reasons some component of it will fail.

You’re willing to live with it and it sounds like you love yours, which is great for you. I’m not willing to take those risks and that won’t change even if Apple were to offer a foldable iPhone.
 
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