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I think it's going to be hard to imagine the ALCS being more exciting or emotionally charged than the NLCS. Two teams fought back from the brink of elimination!

A few weeks ago I was excited at the thought the of the Cards winning wild card slot #2 and that their season extended by one more day..... Who would have thought they would have made it this far!

The Cards ('11 champ) have 11 WS rings and they have that x-factor that the Yankees have. A new team is born every single time the postseason calls. SF ('10 champ) isn't that way and they often lay an egg in postseason and have to be in a serious momentum swing which they are if Timmy and Barry are on board. NYY ('09 champ) are always a threat, no matter who is benched. Detroit to me is the unknown factor here and some betting sites put them as the favorite. They don't have a recent championship so they could arguably be the most hungry and that in itself can push them over the edge and get it done.

NLCS will be more interesting since both are kind of underdogs. If the ACLS goes the distance though, all of America will be watching and mostly hoping the Yankees lose. More than seeing SF win, I like seeing the Yankees lose big ones and there's nothing more amazing in American sports than watching Boston lose the curse and beat NYY in the ACLS en route to first ring in many decades. The closest "big bowel movement relief" we had that were big for California was the Giants finally winning one as an SF/California team two years ago, and the Angels getting the monkey off their back as both having the best talent in all of baseball (Ryan, Carew, Jackson, etc) yet never winning the WS and always being second dog to the Dodgers.

The one thing both SF and the Angels had in common until both won their first ring (other than both being the very definition of the word choke) was getting superior talent from around the world and as soon as they donned those California team uniforms, they lost their mojo. If SF moves on from now, I hope Zito can redeem himself into the hero of the Bay Area he was a decade ago. And on a similar note, I hope Lincecum returns to '08-'11 form in the NLCS. He had a few great innings in NLDS but that could have been a fluke.
 
Finally a true baseball person.

I know a little more about football, but baseball is more emotional for me.

After many years of following both in early NFL season, I decided in 2010 that I would devote sports energy into watching just baseball and superstitiously I thought that may just help my Giants. For the first time in my long life, I saw the Giants win.

I don't know that other factors help at all, and I studied some pretty bizarre stuff in grad school regarding game theory, but in 2010 I saw more strange rituals and behaviors towards the Giants than at any other time at all. Why the furor wasn't as big as '02 or '89 I just don't know. The outrageous fan support that the usually lukewarm Giants got in 2010 had to have helped on some level.

In '02 we were so busy watching Bonds that the WS took second fiddle. It was never, "Hey the Giants won today rather than Barry hit another one into the bay" or "he must be doing steroids". In '89 the clearly superior team of the A's who had wowed us earlier with McGwire and Canseco took the press away from the Giants of '89. We had good players but the two Oakland hitters were like rockstars. The earthquake made that whole series disappear from news when hundreds here died and the WS was just a game.
 
I know a little more about football, but baseball is more emotional for me.

I'm tired of fans changing focus to football and hockey. Their season just began( not for hockey though) and baseball entered the final stretch and the postseason, but they are more excited for football and hockey. Some fans they are.....
 
I think it's the fact that the baseball season is so long that turns a lot of fans to football and hockey as soon as they start.

Then tune out in the middle of the season. There is zero excuse why fans should tune out in the stretch and postseason.
 
Then tune out in the middle of the season. There is zero excuse why fans should tune out in the stretch and postseason.

I've noticed the past 5 years or so that the periods I pay most attention to baseball are the beginning of the seasons and the post-season. Post season especially. But, I've got to agree: if you're a true fan of your team, the post season is THE time to start paying more attention then usual.

Sad the Dbacks didn't do so well this year; saw them win the NL West Championship last year @ Chase Field. Was quite a spectacle :)
 
Then tune out in the middle of the season. There is zero excuse why fans should tune out in the stretch and postseason.

Baseball is incredibly cerebral and there can be a ton of facts to memorize. Before I got hooked, watching baseball and trying to keep up with stats (ERA, stolen bases, on base percentage, RBI, etc) was kind of like high school physics or trig. During a time of my life I wanted to have fun and be a teen and chase girls, the hard classes like physics or trig were pure drudgery. For too many years baseball was like that and it was just easier to wait until the World Series instead of follow a team, or several teams though the tough rivalries, injuries, NL or ALDS, then the championship series, and then the world series.

Football, also a joy in my life, is kind of like the fun classes in high school. You don't have to focus a lot and any given matchup just lasts one game, including the super bowl. There's not a lot of thinking involved and if a team can't do well on the pass, they run, and if they have a strong defense, then spend time and money on offense next season when picking new prospects. It's much more of a quick fix and basically boiling down to roughing up the other team more effectively for a win. I don't get into all that finesse talk as big guys are out to pound the QB, and nowadays if the QB isn't equally gifted in height, weight, and muscle, then that QB goes down the the team loses. It's not better or worse than baseball, just different. You can watch a whole season, just 16 games, and not tire out but the day to day in 162 games in baseball is a mental and emotional drain (but one I have learned to love when basically I learned to love difficult stuff like physics and trig in my adult years). Baseball comes into full bloom when you get a player like Bengie Molina who helps a pitcher (Zito, Cain, Lincecum, etc) manage hitters by literally memorizing hundreds of batters stats and recalling it on a dime. If there's a hitter who hates a changeup after a slider and he doesn't do well against right handed pitchers, but great against left handed pitchers with the same pairing of pitches, it's this nitpicking of facts and being able to physically deliver which makes a baseball player, and coach worth their money. When Steve Young makes a great and perfect pass with accuracy, it shows in his stats and QB rating. But when Tim Lincecum strikes out an unusually large number of batters who hit "more difficult pitches from scarier pitchers", then every nuance, angle, and separation of a part of a pitch is broken down mathematically and argued over by eggheads as if it were string theory.

At the end of the day, I am glad we have baseball and football. Where baseball is like a 7 course meal with carefully matched wines, football is that big bowl of ice cream. Depending on your mood, you are glad they are both there.
 
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I hope Granderson never sees pinstripes after this season. I hope Swisher walks. I hope the Dodgers take ARod. They are freaking pathetic. Every ball they swung at was in the freaking dirt. They don't deserve to be called major league baseball players.

If they do come back next season, they better be in Double A.
 
Rooting for the tigers all the way. The other 3 teams have recently on a WS

This could play into the factor why they are either favored to win it all, or at least have the same odds as NYY to win it all.

Far afield in the doghouse are the NL's Cards and Giants. The last time I read the two AL teams were around 6 to 1 where the Giants were 12 to 1 and Cards 12.5 to 1.

This is a WS that most who know the game and the odds think will belong to the American League team this time around. I sincerely hope they are wrong on this one. I don't want the Giants to lose in the NLCS, but if they do I will root for the Cards to win since both NL teams are as of now really huge underdogs.

As time goes on the odds may change but NYY will always be a heavy favorite on most lists. When you have the funds to buy anybody, you are always going to have the better team. The best the other three teams can hope for is for NYY to beat themselves.
 
Girardi just announced Jeter fractured his ankle. He is done for the year.

It is a sad day for us New Yorkers.
 
Damn shame that happend to Jeter, One wonders if swisher would have made that catch that they wouldn't have been out there still.
 
This could play into the factor why they are either favored to win it all, or at least have the same odds as NYY to win it all.

Far afield in the doghouse are the NL's Cards and Giants. The last time I read the two AL teams were around 6 to 1 where the Giants were 12 to 1 and Cards 12.5 to 1.

This is a WS that most who know the game and the odds think will belong to the American League team this time around. I sincerely hope they are wrong on this one. I don't want the Giants to lose in the NLCS, but if they do I will root for the Cards to win since both NL teams are as of now really huge underdogs.

As time goes on the odds may change but NYY will always be a heavy favorite on most lists. When you have the funds to buy anybody, you are always going to have the better team. The best the other three teams can hope for is for NYY to beat themselves.

Dead argument... Dead horse. Te tigers bought fielder, the giants and cards pay for a lot of talent too. They may not spend as freely as the yankees but they are nowhere near the A's or Royals. Sucks that the orioles or As couldnt quite pull it out
 
Dead argument... Dead horse. Te tigers bought fielder, the giants and cards pay for a lot of talent too. They may not spend as freely as the yankees but they are nowhere near the A's or Royals. Sucks that the orioles or As couldnt quite pull it out

That is simply not true. Carlos Beltran was one of the bigger off season FA acquisitions in recent memory, and it wasn't that big (not on the level of Pujols contract). But all of our star players - Freese, Molina, Craig, Wainwright came up through the minors. Our entire bullpen, save for Rzepczynski and Mujica, not exactly big names, all came up through the minor league system. Descalso and Kozma, the two players with the big hits in the 9th Friday, also came up through the minors, and Kozma is a below average fielder and batter who was called up to replace the injured Furcal.

The 2012 Cardinals are very much a homegrown team, and not put together by huge FA signings in the off season.
 
That is simply not true. Carlos Beltran was one of the bigger off season FA acquisitions in recent memory, and it wasn't that big (not on the level of Pujols contract). But all of our star players - Freese, Molina, Craig, Wainwright came up through the minors. Our entire bullpen, save for Rzepczynski and Mujica, not exactly big names, all came up through the minor league system. Descalso and Kozma, the two players with the big hits in the 9th Friday, also came up through the minors, and Kozma is a below average fielder and batter who was called up to replace the injured Furcal.

The 2012 Cardinals are very much a homegrown team, and not put together by huge FA signings in the off season.

While I tend to agree with you... But the cards are up there in total team salaries. We have like 9guys with a salary north of 5 mil.... But like you said, 5 out of our 7 hot bats at at the 500k mark, most came up through the farm system.

Overall the Cards winning system has been to shrewdly manage the farm and pick up a few key mid level acquisitions...or to open the books for good future talent... Like we did for Pujols. As long as we can continue to bring up guys like Jon Jay or Shelby Miller through the farm... Then we can continue to afford guys like Matt Holiday or Beltran for a few years.

I just hope with Berkman falling off this year (12 mil freed up) we manage wisely so we can keep guys like Carpenter, Jay, Freese, etc.
 
Hey, if salaries don't matter, or are not THE factor, please send all spare NYY monies to us over here in SF, Detroit, and St. Louis! ;)

Anyway, what a salary and all the money in the world can't do is to "undo" that mishap of Jeter. That was ugly and at age 38 I hope he gets to play pro baseball again. It's weird how the announcer first said, "he's OK" but then watching the slo–mo realized this was it for Jeter this year, and realistically at his age playing so hard since mid-90s, this could be curtains for his career.

It's hard enough when a team gets an injury like a just starting out guy like Posey here suffered but there's always a reasonable expectation that he will heal and return to full form for his MLB team. That pain Jeter was in and being carried off the field was hard to watch and really reminded me of when Theisman got hurt in football.

It doesn't matter if you broke a knee all twisted up or just an ankle like it appears in Jeter, if you are not 100% percent the Yankees (more than anybody) can and will replace you. The shock of seeing Jeter go so early may play into the minds of the team and hurt them from now on.
 
That will be scary to see Jeter's and Rivera's career end in the same year due to injury.

But if a 40 year old Pettitte can recover from a fractured ankle, Jeter can too. Talk about moving him to RF may come sooner than he may wish, but with Swisher most likely walking this offseason, it may be the best time to move him.
 
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