It must really hurt Duke to know that the refs totally blew it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...uke-game-td-should-not-have-counted/75000046/
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The 2015-2016 NCAA Football Season
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It must really hurt Duke to know that the refs totally blew it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...uke-game-td-should-not-have-counted/75000046/
And how well the team is playing. Like it or not though, things like reputation are going to be factored in. For example, you really think the selection committee is going to put Utah in over Alabama and Nick Saban or Ohio State and Urban Meyer?
If either of those teams finish 13-1 but win the conference championship they are auto-in over Utah. Absolutely guaranteed.
Absolutely guaranteed? Are you on the committee?
They very well could, probably even likely would. But to say Absolutely guaranteed is ridiculous on its face.
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First CFP ranking but very surprised that Alabama even cracked top 4. If everything remains the system, I have a feeling that due to the criteria, Baylor may miss out again.
Checks committee rankings. Seems in line with me. I don't have to be on the committee to give an opinion.
Utah is higher than Ohio State was in the initial poll last season, just FYI.
So were other teams. But Utah isn't going to the playoffs. Just isn't going to happen with that loss. Sorry man.
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You may be right, but your guess is just a guess at this point. I think if they win out they're in.
I think you're just being biased. I don't really have a horse in this race. Even if they win out they're not getting in man. When this happens I want you to come back and quote this and admit that I was right, if they do you can rub it in my face.
For Utah to be considered for the playoff, they would need to win out and then have a ton of help from teams currently ahead of them. Assuming everything remains the same and Utah does win out, how do you see them going from 12 all the way to 4? It's not going to happen and that's not Utah's fault but the playoff system.
By being Ohio State and having Urban Meyer. Utah isn't that. Dude just deal with it. They shouldn't have lost and then they would have a shot. Notice how NOBODY is talking about "Utah being snubbed" ? It's because they aren't a serious contender. This is particularly true with the loss.
Like I said, the playoff format/selection is broken in the sense that teams are judged by variables that aren't fair and even to other teams such as Utah and other smaller schools in terms of history and significance. Ohio State is a football elite. Then consider the coach and the recruiting class and all that gets considered. Utah doesn't get any of those benefits.
As for Ohio State jumping into the playoff. Look at what the standings were and what the records were for those teams for the first playoff ranking. Look at the final standings. A lot had to happen for Ohio State to get there and then factor those other intangibles I mentioned above. That's how Ohio State got in. You think Utah is going to jump into the ranking when they don't have those intangible factors? Not going to happen.
Yup. And it's not Utah. I don't have any love or hate for them or the Pac-12. I'm just telling it as I see it.
Deal with what?
If you're going to suggest that I deal with your opinion of Utah's chances, save your breath because I don't really care what your opinion is either way. We're having a discussion here, you don't think it's possible, I think it is possible.
There's nothing more to this conversation than that, nobody needs to "deal with" anything.
I was surprised that Bama was ranked number four by the playoff committee. But ultimately it doesn't mean much. If they win out and Ole Miss loses a game, they have a good chance of being near the top in the only poll that really counts. I'm just taking it one week at a time. If the LSU game is anything like last year's, it's going to be a long night, since kickoff is around 7:15 and it's supposed to rain.
Deal with reality and that Utah isn't Alabama or LSU or Notre Dame or Michigan. Reputation matters.
Did you really think I thought Utah was Alabama? Or any team other than Utah?
You make no sense.
Alabama or LSU is going to lose this weekend. And by the way, could Alabama possibly play more nobody's out of conference? They still play Charlestown southern. FCS team? Seriously?
Utah already beat Michigan this year.
Notre Dame has been living off "reputation" for years. Could lose to Stanford.
OSU or Michigan State, one of those teams is going to have a loss by season's end. Possible even both.
Baylor and TCU, at least one will have a loss or more. Both still have to play each other, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State.
If Utah wins out, there's going to be plenty of room to rise in the next few weeks. Especially if Stanford continues to roll. They'd have to get through a top 5ish Stanford at the end of the season to do it.
To say it's impossible is just wishful thinking.
You'll notice I'm not saying it will happen. Just that it could.
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Of course anything can happen but from reading your posts, I'm under the assumption that you seem to think that all losses are equal. Let's say all of the current undefeated teams currently ahead of Utah, all lose one game. Utah isn't going to suddenly jump them. For Utah to realistically make some moves up the rankings, Utah needs to win out and every team ahead of them would need to have at least two losses. With 4-5 games remaining, that's a lot to ask. And even then, if the loss occurred because that team had a tougher SOS, a two loss team may still be ahead of Utah.
You might sit there and say bulls--t, that's not fair. That's what everyone is saying about their team. How can you realistically judge a team outside of their wins/losses? You really can't and that's where the elite football programs have a huge advantage because if there is ever a time where a decision between an elite football program and a lesser known program needs to be made with both having identical records, it's not hard to see which team/program would be chosen.
Personally, I think you have to be top 8 to even have any chance to be in the playoff. Anything lower, you're against too many variables.