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This is what you get for supporting Apple with its high prices.

People vote with their wallets. They keep buying iPhones at super high prices. I'm not saying it's a bad phone, only it's really really expensive for what it should be.

If people where to stop buying it at these increased prices Apple would listen and lower the price.


At some point they will (I hope).
 
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At some point they will (I hope).
If people keep buying at these huge prices then they will keep increasing the price.

People should just use their head, but they don't...

1000$ for a phone is insane! I'm sorry. I have the money and can afford it, but I'll never do it because I think it's insane.
 
If people keep buying at these huge prices then they will keep increasing the price.

People should just use their head, but they don't...

1000$ for a phone is insane! I'm sorry. I have the money and can afford it, but I'll never do it because I think it's insane.

Well what usually happens is that people get wise that they're paying 25-50% more for a product that isn't actually any better than its top competitors. Apple has gotten away with it with Macs because the OS experience has historically been so singular and largely superior compared to Windows. I don't believe the same can be said for iOS vs Android. If they price the iPhone outside the realm of what people deem acceptable, people will vote with their wallets and Apple will have to adjust accordingly.

Was it the iPhone or something else that Apple dropped the price on years ago after there was a backlash? It wouldn't be unprecedented for them to kowtow to consumer unrest.
 
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heh, it still costs more than that to use the thing..

if i have an iphone 8 for two years:

$1000
+ 2500
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$3500


..and i'm on a cheaper plan than many of the people i know..

idk, i'll pay 1000 for the phone.. and i'll continue paying the $100 or so per month to use it..
not gladly but i'll do it anyway..
oh well.
 
a $500 laptop for me nowadays seems hard to buy, but for 1K phone? Thats a 3 fully packed feature android phones..
 
Apple has gotten away with it with Macs because the OS experience has historically been so singular and largely superior compared to Windows. I don't believe the same can be said for iOS vs Android. If they price the iPhone outside the realm of what people deem acceptable, people will vote with their wallets and Apple will have to adjust accordingly.

hmm.
hardly anybody uses os x (relatively speaking)..
a crap ton of people use iOS.

or, i think way more people will argue iOS > Android than macOS > Windows.
 
The question is, other than making more money - what makes this special? Just about any Android phone has OLED, has edge to edge screen and features wireless charging

Exactly this is why the 7s should have these features at the current price point of $649 for the 32gb version of the 4.7inch phone to make it worth while upgrading from a 7
 
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Time for a refresh? Other than the Font/Icon "refresh" back in iOS 6/7 or whenever it was, iPhones basically look and get used the same way they did the day they came out.

Hold it in your left hand, tap, tap, tap with your right index finger.

Same with OS X. Dock against a background....just like in 2001, except for a font/icon upgrade around Snow Leopard or whenever it was.

And don't get me wrong. I WAS the biggest Apple fan (since my G4 iMac), but now they're just chasing $$$ with "slightly refreshed" un exciting products. Would you go trade-in your 2 year old Camry for a "recently updated" Camry (translation: They redesigned the head/taillights)

The time between a blue G3 iMac (~1999) and the first Silver/Black iMac (~2007) is about the same time as the 2007 Silver/Black and the 2017 Silver Black. Barely a distinguishable user experience.

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.....You're gonna have to do better than that to get $2000+ out of me for a laptop. (Actually, you won't....because I'd never spend that kind of money on a laptop)

My point is After three years of the same physical design, Apple needs to refesh the line up. It's over due for an overhaul and most appear ready for a change. My thoughts are the 4.7 iPhone will retain the same design with the 7000 Series aluminum, where the
Plus model will see the biggest changes physically.
 
I have seen people rocking Samsung phones with 8 GB internal memory and 64 GB SD card. Yet they complain because their phone regularly reports internal memory full. Managing SD card and apps install on SD card is still a huge problem with Android.


BTW Huawei Mate 9 is owning iPhone 7 in few GPU benchmarks. Anandtech article here.
This means most phones based on Kirin 960 SOC will perform better in GPU department because of highly improved ARM GPU architecture.
The main gist is Snapdragon, Samsung and Apple may not reign GPU performance kings.
The midrange competition going to get just better.

Seriously what is the use paying $1000 for an iPhone? But people with cash to burn will still buy it as Apple device has achieved a status symbol.

That's probably a mid-range phone or they use up a lot of their memory on Samsungs. Samsung is a lousy OEM with Android features because they half ass features. Adaptive storage is easier on other OEM devices since it combines both internal and external memory into one unit.
 
I fully understand what is going on and that Apple used Brexit as an excuse, because the pound was weak, ow its stronger. Yet the prices are still the same.
Als your example is flawed as you have assumed everywhere in America pays 20% tax which i don't believe they do, because that's implying America pays $129.80 tax on the iPhone.
See, you don't understand it. The American price does not include tax and what they pay in tax is not important.

Take the US (tax-free) price, convert it to sterling and add our 20% VAT to get our price.

If you still don't get that, the UK price before VAT is £499. The US price (tax-free) is $649, which converts to £519. Apple would need to increase the UK price by £20 before tax (or £24 including VAT) if it was readjusted today.

As for "the pound was weak, now its stronger. Yet the prices are still the same", on 7th September when the iPhone 7 was announced (and the prices set) the exchange rate was £1=$1.34. It is trading around £1=£1.25 this morning, so it's actually weaker.
 
See, you don't understand it. The American price does not include tax and what they pay in tax is not important.

Take the US (tax-free) price, convert it to sterling and add our 20% VAT to get our price.

If you still don't get that, the UK price before VAT is £499. The US price (tax-free) is $649, which converts to £519. Apple would need to increase the UK price by £20 before tax (or £24 including VAT) if it was readjusted today.

As for "the pound was weak, now its stronger. Yet the prices are still the same", on 7th September when the iPhone 7 was announced (and the prices set) the exchange rate was £1=$1.34. It is trading around £1=£1.25 this morning, so it's actually weaker.
Best time to upgrade to a new iPhone release in the uk is when the pound is about $1.50 again :D
 
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In Denmark the iPhone 7+ 128Gb cost 1090 USD, and the 256Gb version cost 1220 USD with todays exchange rate between Danish kroner and USD. I wonder what the 8 will cost.
 
Not a surprise as my 256GB 7 plus cost £800. Still £800 is my limit. Be interested what the S8 plus will cost

Time to move to Pixel

That is still damn expensive in itself
 
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Looking forward to $29.99 volume dongles:

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Cool story.
I'm looking fwd to a TouchBar on the side of my phone... slide up brightness & volume.
 
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Smiling. My signature says it all. :)
I'm thinking about switching too. After years of :apple: alienating me and charging the same prices of ancient hardware introduced years ago. A crippled ecosystem which is getting smaller by the day and no future path to make sure my investments are future proof, 2017 will be the year of truth for me. If it's still all marketing and no substance I'll switch. That is taking courage because I'm an apple-user from the early days. Let me know how your experience with the other side is ;)
 
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So far my iPhone 5S can still do everything I want. Would love a better camera (6S or SE) but that's around it. With that price I will keep my 5S upgrade to the SE or swap to Android. No way I spend more than $600 for a phone.
 
See, you don't understand it. The American price does not include tax and what they pay in tax is not important.

Take the US (tax-free) price, convert it to sterling and add our 20% VAT to get our price.

If you still don't get that, the UK price before VAT is £499. The US price (tax-free) is $649, which converts to £519. Apple would need to increase the UK price by £20 before tax (or £24 including VAT) if it was readjusted today.

As for "the pound was weak, now its stronger. Yet the prices are still the same", on 7th September when the iPhone 7 was announced (and the prices set) the exchange rate was £1=$1.34. It is trading around £1=£1.25 this morning, so it's actually weaker.

Hmm I don't think you understood my post actually Olly, I stated the UK price of the current iPhone 7 INCLUDING US Tax based on the New York Zip Code, the iPhone is cheaper in America with tax.
 
Just about any Android phone has OLED, has edge to edge screen and features wireless charging
It's a fallacy to just focus on hardware when comparing iPhones to Android phones. On huge cost for Apple for the iPhone, which not usually considered, is the software, iOS. Android is free, so there is no development cost for Android OEMs, and Google monetizes with advertising by giving Android away for free. If Google were to not allocate advertising income to develop Android, Android wouldn't see anymore development.
If anyone has to be as dominant as Apple is with software, there needs a huge cost associated with that and that cost is rolled into the price of an iPhone.

Another thing people complain about Apple's pricing is, they have always been priced higher than the competition. For Apple, in their minds they are not about the cheapest, not about the most, but about the best.
Apple will price their phones if it thinks that the value associated with the price exists.
 
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There's less value in a $1000 nowadays phone because the devices slow down far too quickly and the batteries pretty much stink after one year anyway. They add incremental performance every year with a new feature on purpose to sell new devices. The system is stupid but people continue to pay so no fault on Apple pushing the envelope to find out really how much customers are willing to pay for a smartphone.

I don't have an issue with 1k for a premium phone as far as buying it for myself goes but overall I don't like it. You have all these people walking around with one thousand dollar phones and it's an easy theft target. It sounds silly, and feels silly.
 
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