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That’s impressive, keep up the good work. And on a sidenote, that’s really what the watch is made for, as a companion to be a Health tracker to monitor your goals, and I think the monthly fitness challenges is a unique way of marketing the watch for health aspects, along with closing the rings.
Thanks RP! Yeah, closing those rings gets addictive. I’m in my mid 40s and in better cardiovascular shape than I was in my 20s. But seriously, my feet are messed up. I’ve had to cut back on my running for the last few weeks. Super frustrating.
 
yeah but also they need to know or calculate how many more they can still sale
let's say apple sold 100 millions iPhones
80 million iPads and 1 million watches
do you think that makes the watch successful
yes they sold a million units but that is nothing compared to the other units
you don't need to compared with the ones who are not buying
you can also compared with the ones that are selling
then you will know if your product is being accepted or rejected
a million units is not a failure but is "irrelevant" compared against 100 millions
:D

This is ridiculous, lol.
You have to compare a company’s smart watch/wearable sales to other smartwatch/wearable offerings sales, to get an idea of whether it was successful.... not a completely different product that sells 100x more. What were you thinking when you wrote that???
That’s like Wal-Mart saying they must have not sold enough ball caps this year, because they sold more aspirin pills- like wtf? You can’t just randomly say that a product is a failure because some other product (not even remotely competing with it) sold more. There would be no companies that are successful at selling motorcycles (proof: there’s more cars on the road). No company has ever been successful at selling bottled water, kombucha, or juice (proof: soda sells more). No architect/builder has ever been successful designing/selling mansions (proof: more apartments).
Do you see how quickly your line of thinking falls apart??
I can’t make this more clear- you’re wrong. The Apple Watch is a phenomenal success.
Not selling as many units as the iPhone is a given, as it is a 2nd optional companion device, to primarily use loosely in tandem with an iPhone.
 
I got my AW S0 the day it got out in London. Had a happy 3 years run with it, but I got tired of been circled around with Apple products and switched to Pixel and Withings Steel HR about a year ago. Very happy with my purchases and the biggest advantage of Withings compared to AW is its combination of minimality plus the usual fitness stuff and a month long battery that helps track sleep as well. Daily charge of AW is a huge letdown 4 years after its launch.
 
This is ridiculous, lol.
You have to compare a company’s smart watch/wearable sales to other smartwatch/wearable offerings sales, to get an idea of whether it was successful.... not a completely different product that sells 100x more. What were you thinking when you wrote that???
That’s like Wal-Mart saying they must have not sold enough ball caps this year, because they sold more aspirin pills- like wtf? You can’t just randomly say that a product is a failure because some other product (not even remotely competing with it) sold more. There would be no companies that are successful at selling motorcycles (proof: there’s more cars on the road). No company has ever been successful at selling bottled water, kombucha, or juice (proof: soda sells more). No architect/builder has ever been successful designing/selling mansions (proof: more apartments).
Do you see how quickly your line of thinking falls apart??
I can’t make this more clear- you’re wrong. The Apple Watch is a phenomenal success.
Not selling as many units as the iPhone is a given, as it is a 2nd optional companion device, to primarily use loosely in tandem with an iPhone.
no problem lord Beerus lol
is just depends in the way you see things
we both have different point of views
that's all

yes it can also be compared against the competition watches
that is really the way it should be
but a wise man once said

you are not really fighting against your opponent you are really fighting against yourself

I can make it more clear but it doesn't matter how hard I try, you just will reject it
simply because you will say is wrong just because we both think different

nothing wrong with that, I really likes when someone see things in a different way
you never know what you might learn from that person

but I wasn't comparing diferent products from different companies
my point is that there some products that sell more than others
simply because some people like some devices more than others

if you have a fan base of 100 million costumers and they buy 100 million iPhones and 80 million iPads well that means that most your iPhone users also likes the iPad while 20% of your fan base hasn't bought an ipad for whatever reason

but when you only sell 1 million watches it means that your costumers are not really interesting on that devices
because from the 100 million clients that you have only 1% is interested

sorry you can disagree with me all you want and say that I'm wrong but for me that is a failure

failure only if you compared against your best selling device just to have things under perspective
but if you look at it alone then it my seem or look like is successful
1 million units is no joke, I know the watch has sold more that but since I don't know the real number I'm just giving you an example

if apple sells at least 25 million watches then that is 25% compared against the iPhone then that is not that bad at all
but you can see it anyway you want
numbers don't lie

I respect your opinion and I have no problem with you
is also good sometimes to disagree
peace
 
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I’d wait the few months until the new one is out. Nothing worse than regret.
Very true, although I’m training for a half marathon in October so 4 months is a long time to be training with my S2, especially as it’s so slow
 
The first Apple Watch cost $400, now they cost $120 in only 4 years. What is the depreciation value of a Rolex? in 10 years nobody will be using the Apple Watches of today, in 10 years Rolex will cost more.

Apple Watch is Mc Donalds.
I don’t think many buyers think of an Apple Watch as an investment that will appreciate over the years; either it does or does not provide ~10/month of value to the user. If so, enjoy it for 3-5 years and then replace it. The new one will be much faster and more capable.

It’s really not all that different from purchasing a smartphone; no one expects the value of a smartphone to increase after purchase, right? And there are few smartphones that will last 10 years.

Comparing an Apple Watch to a Rolex makes about as much sense as comparing a Mercedes to a Rolls Royce. Both have their fans, and sure they’re both cars, but they don’t have the same target market.
 
AWesome device. I am on S3 Alu right now. Next time I am going to splash out for SS version, hopefully with S5. Here hoping for AW LTE support where I live. Apple should make AW standalone device (biggest flaw/negative imo, beside lack of always on feat).
 
It was said in these very forums the AW would be a bomb. Who knew a few years later it would lead the segment and incorporate an ekg.

It leads the segment but the "Swiss Watch Killer" it is not. The Swiss Watch industry is selling so many watches at the moment that they need to hire like crazy to meet production targets. Rolex alone has currently 140 open positions listed on their website.
 
It leads the segment but the "Swiss Watch Killer" it is not. The Swiss Watch industry is selling so many watches at the moment that they need to hire like crazy to meet production targets. Rolex alone has currently 140 open positions listed on their website.
If by leads the segment you mean the segment of all Swiss watches, you are correct. Apple is estimated to outsell the entire output of the Swiss watch industry by 5-10 million units this year.

But the Swiss watch industry is doing pretty well, selling around 24.3 million units a year in 2017 and 23.7 million in 2018. For 2018, below about $500, Swiss watch exports were off 5% in units sold, but above $500, units sold were up about 8%.
 
Most were probably given those gold watches for free to show them off before launch. Bieber, Beyonce, etc... always peculiar that the ones with the most disposable income also get the most free ****.

To quote a line from one of my all time favourite films...

"Free to those that can afford it, very expensive to those that can't"
 
The AW is clunky and boring - still reminds me of the Casio calculator watches from the 1980s. And how fun is it to have one watch (type) only? If they had a real offering of different (looking) models and some variation in hosuing design, maybe I would consider one, but as for the time being the AW is just a boring product. Please call me, Apple, when you can provide an AW with the same functionality as my iPhone Xs, looking somewhat similar to a regular watch rather than a nerdy tech toy.
 
The Apple Watch has become really popular. Every time I go out I always see several and it’s not just young techy types. I think it will only continue to grow over time.
 
I got rid of my Watch 3 because I only wanted to know what time it was more than I wanted to know the temperature, headline news, heart rate, etc. It was beyond frustrating.
 
The first Apple Watch cost $400, now they cost $120 in only 4 years. What is the depreciation value of a Rolex? in 10 years nobody will be using the Apple Watches of today, in 10 years Rolex will cost more.

Apple Watch is Mc Donalds.
And the Apple Watch will get me more utility in 2-3 years than a lifetime with a Rolex watch ever will.

After all, the Rolex watch only tells time. If I really wanted to be brutal, there is nothing a Rolex watch does that a $5 Casio watch doesn't.

I am sold. As long as I use an iPhone, you will never catch me wearing anything else other than an Apple Watch.
 
I got rid of my Watch 3 because I only wanted to know what time it was more than I wanted to know the temperature, headline news, heart rate, etc. It was beyond frustrating.
Hope you’re ok, that sounds absolutely traumatizing. I can’t imagine what it must have been like to have a watch that could do more than just show the time.

But that kind of puts Apple in a tough spot, because the poster a few above you wants his watch to do everything his iPhone XS can do :eek:
 
... there is nothing a Rolex watch does that a $5 Casio watch doesn't.
Unless, you are a scuba diver or do any sorts of out of doors activities in cold temperatures or warm climates with high air humidity. For the record: I do not own a Rolex, and I do not want one. But I wear solid watches that can handle my life style.

As long as I use an iPhone, you will never catch me wearing anything else other than an Apple Watch.
What about clothes....? ;)
 
And the Apple Watch will get me more utility in 2-3 years than a lifetime with a Rolex watch ever will.

After all, the Rolex watch only tells time. If I really wanted to be brutal, there is nothing a Rolex watch does that a $5 Casio watch doesn't.

I am sold. As long as I use an iPhone, you will never catch me wearing anything else other than an Apple Watch.

I don’t think this is a fair comparison.

From a value standpoint, Rolexes hold their value compared to other watches. It’s one of the reasons they are one of the most counterfeited luxury brand in the world. You are not going to find a good conditioned Pepsi or Batman Rolex used watch for less than 50% of its original price 5 years later. You don’t ever have to charge your watch, replace your battery, and you can take it swimming and know the time anywhere.

There is a lot of work and detail that go into these types of luxury mechanical watches that certain people appreciate. The case, the movements, the under the hood details, the lifetime purchase, and the history are some of these things. It’s clear you are not one of these people.
 
And today I am still wearing that Series 0 Stainless Steel with Millanese loop I got on that first day. :-D

Really want to upgrade but why oh why can't Apple add custom or at least realistic looking watch faces? Seriously, this is the only reason I haven't.

I'm still rockin' my original space grey "Series 0" I got that first month they came out. I wear it every day. I may consider getting a new one this year... though the old one still works great. I love the product though, especially checking texts and being able to reject calls from my wrist, and very much miss it when I occasionally forget to charge it and have to leave it home on the charger in the morning.

Still wearing the Original and am not planning on upgrading anytime soon.

I am still wearing the original (S0) every day. But at this point I MIGHT be tempted to upgrade to S5 this fall :D

Got my Series 0 delivered on day one and still going strong.
Gives me all the info I need at a glance and the notifications/reminders keep me right on schedule with just a quick look at my wrist instead of having to pull out my phone or iPad.
Hope whenever it’s time for a new one I’ll be as pleased with that one too.

I’m still wearing my “Day One” Series 0 Stainless Steel! The crystal is still flawless, after all that time.

Have the series 0 edition, still perfectly fine. Having zero issue, yes slightly slow but still getting full day of battery.

Same here. I still have my Series 0. With a few exceptions, I've worn it every single day for nearly four nears. Still get a full day's battery. Take calls, use Apple Pay, record my workouts, etc. etc. Amazing device. Show me another smart watch or fitness band that works this good after four years -- I bet you can't!

Eventually I'll upgrade, but Kudos to Apple for making a spectacular product right from the beginning!

Sorry to multi-quote, but I'm so happy that there's lots of us Series 0 users still going strong! Bought mine on day of release and still really happy with it.
 
It leads the segment but the "Swiss Watch Killer" it is not. The Swiss Watch industry is selling so many watches at the moment that they need to hire like crazy to meet production targets. Rolex alone has currently 140 open positions listed on their website.

Most Swiss Watch killer posts are only thinking in units sold which is not the best narrative considering the luxury sectors are doing pretty well. For example in the luxury sector, there is a waiting list for the Pepsi Rolex models. These go for $9000+ without much authorized dealer discounts. These watches are not mass factory produced nor cheap compared to the Apple Watch
 
Yeah I thought it would take years. I was going to hold onto my series 3 and then the ECG update came so I upgraded. I like the bigger screen and new design much more than I thought I would as well.

Yeah it’s been a good upgrade. I was only without it a month or so and struggled without it
 
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What about clothes....? ;)

Good one. You got me there, I will give you that.

There is a lot of work and detail that go into these types of luxury mechanical watches that certain people appreciate. The case, the movements, the under the hood details, the lifetime purchase, and the history are some of these things. It’s clear you are not one of these people.

I am sure.

I won't pretend to know what goes through the mentality of someone who is willing to throw down 5-6 figure sums on a watch (though I do frequent Ablogtowatch from time to time, and boy are the commenters there snooty). It's also hard to reconcile the elaborate backstory of say, a Richard Mille watch with it basically being seen on the wrist of many a corrupt politician or wealthy businessman who is clearly wearing one purely as a status symbol and not for the engineering or craftsmanship.

But I suppose I am one to talk, being so invested in the apple ecosystem and all.

That said, there are likely, right this second, millions of people spending money on things that I wouldn’t buy. Things that I could easily find an almost unlimited number of “better things to spend the money on”.

Perhaps I could take the time to tell them all that they should be buying something else that they don’t actually want, but I do. However, I think I’ll stuck to just understanding that they probably have different tastes, personal circumstances, disposable income etc to me and therefore it’s probably best for them to actually just buy the thing that they decided upon with those factors taken into account.

I simply ask that the Apple Watch detractors accord us the same consideration as well.
 
Wasn’t it going to be a huge fail?

I think that until S2 the AW was as useful as a chocolate teapot.
However now I am the happy owner of a Series 3. It has replaced my fitness monitor very nicely.

There are only few companies with enough money and engineering power to survive through two mediocre iterations of one product.

Same thing with HomePod, I don’t know for sure but I’d be willing to bet that It will be a long time (if ever) before Apple can actually make money out of it. But Apple has enough muscle to wait until they have fixed Siri to the point of making the speaker useful.
 
Apple Watch is worth the price and not worth the price. It's an amazing feat.

It's fantastic to use as a fitness tracker, music pairing without your phone at the gym.

But the rest of it is just gimmicks on a screen too small to care about using over your phone.

I still love mine though, ha.
 
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