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Aldaris

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Not too keen on the possibility of a removable battery. Who is really going to swap batteries?

Most interesting rumor weekend.

At least apple will keep us preoccupied with visions of iPhones and Mac Pros dancing in our heads till WWDC.
 

VelfarreClubber

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Jun 26, 2008
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Probably a controlled leak

Probably a controlled leak but that would be really nice to have a removable battery! Along with the other hardware features the competition has.
 

Jason S.

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Jul 23, 2007
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Allowing for the new features like a removable battery require good design, and this is actually a good design for something like that. The entire back is not removable, which means the other internal components aren't exposed, and will save some space.

There is more to design than aesthetics.
 

nkawtg72

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Okay, if we are going to assume it has a removable back then what is the point of having the SIM card tray on the side of the case if you could just access it from the back? It also seems like glass or ceramic would be cost prohibitive compared polymer.

says nothing of a removable back. suggests a removable battery by way of a battery door along the length of one side.

i personally think it's an interesting rumor, maybe it is the next iphone, maybe not. don't rightly care. i know whatever they put out, i will get more than likely, because it's time to replace this 4gig Edge iPhone :)
 

CanadianGuy

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Jul 3, 2007
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Wrong

It will not have a user replaceable battery.

This is a prototype for starters, second, that hole he calls the battery release is actually a mic, see the mic on your iPad.

Next, there's no way the battery cover will be over top of the ringer/orientation lock switch and volume buttons.

The phone is legit, but these additions are just wrong.
 

arn

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Okay, if we are going to assume it has a removable back then what is the point of having the SIM card tray on the side of the case if you could just access it from the back? It also seems like glass or ceramic would be cost prohibitive compared polymer.

no, I think the images suggest the side metal piece slides off. not the entire back.

arn
 

kiljoy616

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Removable battery? Yes. Design? No.

Can't see why apple would back off on not having removal battery, that part just seem out of place for apple, look at the ipad, and I would rather have had a removal battery in that than in a phone I will have max 2 years.
very very :confused:
 

kiljoy616

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Am I the only one who DOESN'T want a user-replaceable battery? I feel like it will affect the phone's design in a bad way.

No your not the only one, personally I for one think that is a bad idea, ipad maybe yes, iphone, don't really need it. at least I have never needed it or missed it.
 

Anthony T

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I don't know if I can handle another 2 months of speculation...Apple needs to at least confirm the WWDC dates already lol.
 

iphones4evry1

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Maybe it does have an ejectable battery, BUT has a sensor that tells them if you tamper with it. Only Apple employees can eject it, and a legal disclaimer says that if you eject it, you void your warranty.

(the photo with the red arrows seemed too blurry to me to decipher. Seriously, how can that be reliable evidence? Can you really definitely tell that other object is an iPad? Explain.)
 

gibbz

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May 31, 2007
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Not too keen on the possibility of a removable battery. Who is really going to swap batteries?

Most interesting rumor weekend.

I'm not convinced it will be removable. They have been moving to non-removable in all of their mobile products.

I agree with John Gruber on this being some kind of development frame.
I think it’s a testbed frame — thicker, with visible (un-Apple-like) seams, meant to fit in 3GS cases so as to disguise units out in the wild. It’s hard to tell from the photos.
 

Aldaris

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Most of us really have iPhone/iPod/iPad chargers in our cars, offices, and strewn all around our homes at this point...

Oh and Apple Inc. does not currently offer any product with a user replaceable battery...

C'mon, really if this is legit, it's a test/prototype case, that's all...
 

1Zach1

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no, I think the images suggest the side metal piece slides off. not the entire back.

arn

says nothing of a removable back. suggests a removable battery by way of a battery door along the length of one side.


Ohhhh okay. That still seems a bit illogical to me, if you're going to have a piece that comes off why not hide the SIM card back there are well but that's just me.
 

boss.king

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I'd hate to be the Apple employee to left it at the bar. Then I'd hate to be the boss that tried to pass a little disinformation to say it was a rip-off copy. I bet we see a couple job postings at Apple for iPhone tester and test manager.... :)

I wouldnt worry to much about the guy who left the phone there. He doesnt work for Apple so he's safe. This is not a genuine prototype. Theres no way apple would use a replaceable battery in this when they dont offer it in any other device.

This is not an iPhone, no matter how much people want it to be one.

I'm not trying to be rude, just informational
 

Casiotone

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Curving a structure helps to dissipate forces (think arched bridges).

When it comes to materials science strength and toughness are very technical terms with very specific meanings (I studied the subject at University). For example toughness is a resistance to fracture at high stresses, this has nothing to do with brittleness. Any type of impulse loading and ceramics become obsolete when compared to more ductile materials such as metals or some polymers.

Also as a mechanical engineer/academic let me advise you to ignore wikipedia. I can't begin to tell you how many students have gotten misinformation from this website.

You're right about the curved surface being stronger, it was pretty stupid of me to state otherwise. The part where I try to say that moving to ceramics explained the flat back is totally guesswork on my part.

As for Wikipedia, it may not be exact, but a process does exist to make Zirconia much tougher and make it ductile instead of brittle:

The brittle/ductile transition in cubic stabilised zirconia
 

mavis

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Salacion said:
Not too keen on the possibility of a removable battery. Who is really going to swap batteries?

Most interesting rumor weekend.

Are you kidding?! I'd LOVE to be able to carry ow or two extra batteries in my bag. As it is, I genrally carry two externals anyway; a user-accessible battery would be fantastic.
 

goobot

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im glad the battery is hard to get out so if i drop it the back doesnt come flying off. tho i rather no removable just to make the battery bigger and make the phone look better.
 
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