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But you are forgetting that Amazon doesn't have the Beatles for download, iTunes does. I don't buy CDs and haven't for about 10 years. This is a major win for iTunes.

Meanwhile, in 2009, Amazon was selling lossless 24-bit FLACs on USB...

 
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Really, Beatles fans will already have the music. The rest of us, those of us with taste, don't care whether you sell it or not anyway.

Have you seen the iTunes chart? Or are those all the people with 'no' taste? Surely you meant 'those of us with the same taste as me', or do you really consider anyone who doesn't like the same things as you as tasteless?
 
Unbelievable

Look, it may not be an 'unforgettable day' in terms of news. But having their collection in an electronic distribution is news and Apple is glad to have hammered out the deal.

If its irrelevant to you, so be it. It just seems like a lot of whiny kids saying, "Apple didn't give me what I wanted!" All the pissing and moaning over this. Save your energy for when Apple gives you something to be excited over.

Those who have lived through the lean years at Apple are grateful for the things that have made Apple great. There are plenty of news and products in which I'm not particularly interested. I just say, "Let it be."

For anyone with some initiative, would you mind updating wikipedia's entry under digital distribution?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles
 
Well soon a stat will come out saying... we made it 1 trilion clicks on our home page....... it will be a day apple never forget :)
:D
 
Meanwhile, in 2009...


That is of higher quality than CDs, but it doesn't reach the full remastering level.

I am still waiting.
 
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That is of higher quality than CDs, but it doesn't reach the full remastering level.

I am still waiting.

Yes, maybe they will put out a 96/24 Blu-Ray. Oh wait....

EDIT: There's also hope in the surround community for a 5.1 release since the surviving Beatles were involved with the 5.1 "Love" DVD-A.
 
This is hilarious. This thread is growing so fast, by the time you write a post there are several more pages of threads! Anybody who doesn't appreciate the Beatles needs to sit down and listen. (I didn't say 'love the beatles' I said appreciate.) They don't know what they're missing, and they don't know anything about music in the 20th century.
 
And don't forget: A Six Week Exclusivity for downloads in a BIG DEAL. Especially during the Holiday season. Both the Beatles and Apple will sell a ton of songs and then Amazon and the other outlets will get to distribute next year.

Lot's of people still get iPods, pads and macs for Holiday gifts (and iTune gift cards). Many will download Beatles music just to test out their new rigs.

I feel that Apple's pre hype was very minimal compared to their usual antics but you know that all the media outlets will continue the hype and those TV spots will be everywhere this season. If you really believe this was over the top (I don't), this was juts the tip of the iceberg.

A smart move for both parties.
 
beatles...

ha, i think the thing im going to remember is reading over 70 forum pages... it was fun
 
I used to think the Beatles were completely overrated too until I took a European History class and my teacher had a full end of the semester segment based on the Beatles, their music, life etc.

That really opened me up to them and now I can definitely say they are one of my favorite bands. It really is an acquired taste.

However this announcement really did disappoint.
 
:( Hmmmm ... dissapointed!!! What can I say?... stunts like this from Apple takes away the magic and the hype for me ...

"Magic"? Wow, are you a member of ICP or sumtin'? :D

Seriously, maybe you SHOULD consider taking away some of the hype from your life? If ANY advertising (7 words, no less!) creates "magic" for you, there may be something seriously WRONG.

Not saying you ARE, but you MAY be a tad impressionable, and thus likely to fall victim to random Nigerian scams, infomercials, con men, sales people, etc.

all that's left is a greedy Apple that want's to abuse our expectations. :(

Uh, perhaps you might want to not let your expectations run to the stratosphere, based on reading posts at sites named "macrumors", LOL! What part of the word "rumor" don't you get? The entire site admits it's based on rampant speculation: sometimes the collective mind gets it right, and sometimes not. Who cares? It's all in good fun....

Remember, only YOU can abuse your expectations by letting them run rampant, based on rumors.
 
Wrong on all accounts

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16295 <<<< What a proper ABX test is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ <<< Audio Myths Workshop.

Have a read/watch conduct some tests yourself then see how wrong you are.

Hardly. You have taken statistics, no? You can reject the null, but there is only evidence to suggest the alternate hypothesis is correct, NOT definitive proof. Everything is relative. That alone would mean that I am right on at least one account :). Besides that though, my variances statement still stands. I quote, from your cited article,
Most often, it is admitted that an event whose probability of not occuring is smaller than 1/20 is "statistically significant". No interpretation, this p value is the result of a mathematical calculus relying only on what have been observed. Former results from similar tests, the quality of the test, and other statistic calculations are not taken into account. However, these events have an influence on the probability that the observed difference is real.

* Number of testers : Studies made with a small umber of listeners are more sensitive to mistakes occuring in the test setup. Wrong stimulus presented, mistakes copying the results etc. For this reason, when the result depends on one or two people, conclusions must be cautious.
* Predictability level : there are more chances to have got a success after N tests have been performed, than performing only one test. For example, if we want to test something that has no effect, the result that we get will be decided by chance only. Imagine that 20 people run independant tests. According to chance, in average, one of them should get a "false positive" result, since a positive result is by definition something that occur no more than one time out of 20. The p calculation of each test does not take this into account.
* Multiple comparisons : if we select two groups in the population, using one criterion, there will be less than 1 chance out of 20 to get a "statistical difference" between the two. However, if we consider 20 independant criterions, the probability to get a significant difference according to one of them is much higher than 1/20.
For example, if people are asked to rate the "dynamics", "soundstage", and "coloration" of an encoder, the probability to get a false positive is about thrice as high as with one criterion only, since there are three possibilities for the event to occur. Once again, the p value associated with each comparison is inferior to the real probability to get a false positive.

There's no control over the confounding variables, and while it is a statistical hypothesis test, the methodology fails to mention the assumptions needed; for example if we're going to incorporate these variables into a two-way ANOVA, we need a relatively normal distribution with a representative sample with similar standard deviations for the populations. If we're going to do a two sample t-test, we now have to reply on sample size. For example, if n1=n2=5, we need similar distributions, whereas n1+n2 >40 we don't have to worry about outliers or skew. If we do a one way ANOVA, we again have to consider the restrictions, only this time we should also run Bonferroni as well. ABX test = flawed. That at least bolsters some of my points.

The bottom line is that it's a zero sum game, as I said; you cant definitely prove or disprove it either way-- your quoted video even says that! I think you're failing to grasp anecdotal evidence, and why it doesn't work. According to your lecture, and I quote "If you listen to something differently (for different features or objects) -You will REMEMBER different things, - This is not an illusion; and If you have reason to assume things may be different -You will most likely listen differently, -Therefore, you will remember different things." I never said this wasn't true-- everything is relative, especially human perception. If you listen for a difference, there will be one. If you assume differences, there will be one. This by itself disproves anecdotal evidence because you're listening for a difference and listening to it differently, which as I said was worthless above. It also questions the validity of statistical analysis, as if the responses are automatically biased due to these factors, how can one come to a valid conclusion about them? Clearly you can't, aside from all the statistical flaws present in the ABX analysis.

I appreciate the rebuttal, but don't try to say someone's wrong on all accounts when your quoted sources clearly state otherwise.
 
I used to think the Beatles were completely overrated too until I took a European History class and my teacher had a full end of the semester segment based on the Beatles, their music, life etc.

If this was college your parents should ask for a partial refund.
 
GO **** YOURSELF!!!! Where is the cloud service, streaming music, or anything else important other than the freakin' Beatles! I don't know anyone that listens to the Beatles anymore, and if they do, they already own their CD's. Major fail!


Stunning for some reason I remember paying less. Must be confusing that with what i paid for the physical remasters boxsets ($130 odd).
 
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I used to think the Beatles were completely overrated too until I took a European History class and my teacher had a full end of the semester segment based on the Beatles, their music, life etc.

That really opened me up to them and now I can definitely say they are one of my favorite bands. It really is an acquired taste.

However this announcement really did disappoint.


I don't think it's an acquired taste. They've sold more records than any other act in music history, which indicates that they connected with a mass audience over and over.
 
Yay! Abbey Road is #8 on itunes! Gonna listen to it now at work on my iphone! Oh happy day! Haters go #@ck yourself! Back to your mommies basements now!

Classy.


I don't think it's an acquired taste. They've sold more records than any other act in music history, which indicates that they connected with a mass audience over and over.

I think it was timing. The Beatles happened at the PERFECT time.
 
Yay! Abbey Road is #8 on itunes! Gonna listen to it now at work on my iphone! Oh happy day! Haters go #@ck yourself! Back to your mommies basements now!

Haters would say, why didn't you rip it like 10 years ago if it means so much to you? What took you so long? Couldn't figure out how to rip a CD?
 
This thread is hilarously retarded.

The Beatles are the BEST SELLING BAND OF ALL TIME. Regardless if you like their music or not, iTunes finally getting the catalog of the BEST SELLING BAND OF ALL TIME is definitely relevant news.

The people who are complaining about the "you'll never forget" part should take a marketing class. The whole point of marketing is to get people to talk about it, so you can get your product out there. Obviously, since there's already 50 pages on this, they are doing something right.
 
Good for Apple. I know they have been trying for this for a while now and to finally get it is probably really big in their eyes! I already have the catalog but this is still good to see!!!! More music, more sales!
 
3 years ago he probably also liked Dora the explorer. Whats your point? Liking the music is not the point here.

Point was simple, you quoted me out of context. Poster claimed Beatles music was only for people over 50, simply inaccurate.

So, what's your point? This entire thread is about music...

iTunes = Music
Beatles= Music
iTunes Store=Music
iTunes sells -> Music


Your post = perhaps a different thread?
 
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