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The Beatles Appear in iTunes Store
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The hype greatly out weighed the reality, whats the big deal - what aren't they saying that makes this so significant?
Good job...
Good job, though I see what he was trying to say.
Hardly. You have taken statistics, no? You can reject the null, but there is only evidence to suggest the alternate hypothesis is correct, NOT definitive proof. Everything is relative. That alone would mean that I am right on at least one account. Besides that though, my variances statement still stands. I quote, from your cited article,
There's no control over the confounding variables, and while it is a statistical hypothesis test, the methodology fails to mention the assumptions needed; for example if we're going to incorporate these variables into a two-way ANOVA, we need a relatively normal distribution with a representative sample with similar standard deviations for the populations. If we're going to do a two sample t-test, we now have to reply on sample size. For example, if n1=n2=5, we need similar distributions, whereas n1+n2 >40 we don't have to worry about outliers or skew. If we do a one way ANOVA, we again have to consider the restrictions, only this time we should also run Bonferroni as well. ABX test = flawed. That at least bolsters some of my points.
The bottom line is that it's a zero sum game, as I said; you cant definitely prove or disprove it either way-- your quoted video even says that! I think you're failing to grasp anecdotal evidence, and why it doesn't work. According to your lecture, and I quote "If you listen to something differently (for different features or objects) -You will REMEMBER different things, - This is not an illusion; and If you have reason to assume things may be different -You will most likely listen differently, -Therefore, you will remember different things." I never said this wasn't true-- everything is relative, especially human perception. If you listen for a difference, there will be one. If you assume differences, there will be one. This by itself disproves anecdotal evidence because you're listening for a difference and listening to it differently, which as I said was worthless above. It also questions the validity of statistical analysis, as if the responses are automatically biased due to these factors, how can one come to a valid conclusion about them? Clearly you can't, aside from all the statistical flaws present in the ABX analysis.
I appreciate the rebuttal, but don't try to say someone's wrong on all accounts when your quotes sources clearly state otherwise.
Good job, though I see what he was trying to say.
Again people are looking beyond the Beatles with this issue. The Beatles aren't the issue, its Apples lack of definitive direction the last few months. People where expecting this announcement to shed some light on decisions Apple has made lately.
I lost my CD. I still have the LP though. I just didn't think it would take so long to negotiate a deal with Apple.
Hardly. You have taken statistics, no? You can reject the null, but there is only evidence to suggest the alternate hypothesis is correct, NOT definitive proof. Everything is relative. That alone would mean that I am right on at least one account
There's no control over the confounding variables, and while it is a statistical hypothesis test, the methodology fails to mention the assumptions needed; for example if we're going to incorporate these variables into a two-way ANOVA, we need a relatively normal distribution with a representative sample with similar standard deviations for the populations. If we're going to do a two sample t-test, we now have to reply on sample size. For example, if n1=n2=5, we need similar distributions, whereas n1+n2 >40 we don't have to worry about outliers or skew. If we do a one way ANOVA, we again have to consider the restrictions, only this time we should also run Bonferroni as well. ABX test = flawed. That at least bolsters some of my points.
The bottom line is that it's a zero sum game, as I said; you cant definitely prove or disprove it either way-- your quoted video even says that! I think you're failing to grasp anecdotal evidence, and why it doesn't work. According to your lecture, and I quote "If you listen to something differently (for different features or objects) -You will REMEMBER different things, - This is not an illusion; and If you have reason to assume things may be different -You will most likely listen differently, -Therefore, you will remember different things." I never said this wasn't true-- everything is relative, especially human perception. If you listen for a difference, there will be one. If you assume differences, there will be one. This by itself disproves anecdotal evidence because you're listening for a difference and listening to it differently, which as I said was worthless above. It also questions the validity of statistical analysis, as if the responses are automatically biased due to these factors, how can one come to a valid conclusion about them? Clearly you can't, aside from all the statistical flaws present in the ABX analysis.
I appreciate the rebuttal, but don't try to say someone's wrong on all accounts when your quoted sources clearly state otherwise.
Wow.... just, wow. I'm off outside.
Great, only 9 years too late! Seriously apple are complete idiots: they lost millions in illegal downloads. Everyone who wanted their music on mp3s uploaded it a decade ago. Let's move on.
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I think this warranted the small graphic that Apple posted. Think about it. Apple Records HATED Apple Computer. Now, Apple has the exclusive digital rights to the Beatles. That's pretty impressive. I would be beating my chest if I were Apple.
Yeah and people aren't complaining about any of this. They are complaining about the HYPE surrounding it.
As for your kid. Of course he/she likes whatever daddy likes at that age.
I love the Beatles but seriously who cares if they are on iTunes or not.
I have most of their albums and I am not buying them again.
Finally I know Steve Jobs loves them but his fan attitude is pushing just too hard. All this media attention is definitely not necessary.
I have most of their albums and I am not buying them again.
Finally I know Steve Jobs loves them but his fan attitude is pushing just too hard. All this media attention is definitely not necessary.
Big Let Down
While I agree that it's great the Beatles has come to iTunes, I don't think that the news warranted the kind of anticipation that apples hype caused. Fact is that most people who care enough to even be happy about this already own the CDs. I love them just as much as the next guy but, really?
While I agree that it's great the Beatles has come to iTunes, I don't think that the news warranted the kind of anticipation that apples hype caused. Fact is that most people who care enough to even be happy about this already own the CDs. I love them just as much as the next guy but, really?
I'm so thrilled there are so many people that honoured us by taking time out of their exciting, fun filled, thrilling every moment lives to tell us how bored they are about this announcement. You have all made my day. Now get back to your adventure filled lives and we lowly boring people will return to ours.
ha! yeah and their soulless music. i can tell you from a musicians point of view, and someone who likes cutting edge music (when i can find it), that todays music is garbage in comparison to original earlier bands. I just watched martin scorsese's "shine a light" film with the stones. Mick Jagger is 40 years the senior of jack white and christina auilera but his voice has a ton more soul than those guys.
and thats what we miss in the music industry today soul. it all sounds fake, not from the heart. boring, unless you like that kind of stuff. Now before people get their panties in a wad, this is a generalization.
(Me) Then: ripped the CD's to my 10 Gig 3rd Gen iPod.
(Kids) Now: who are "The Beatles"?
Seriously...
(Kids) Now: who are "The Beatles"?
Seriously...
Didn't like them, nor do I really follow them too much currently. He's got his own mind and likenesses thank goodness.
I can't believe all the negatives on this thread! Over 1500!
Guys, whether you hate The Beatles or not is not really the point here.
Apple and Apple Corps (the record company) have been fighting for over 30 years on the Apple name and other stuff relating to that. There have been several lawsuits spanning 4 decades ('78 to '06) and now they have worked things out to sell The Beatles music on iTunes. This is a huge, personal win for Apple and good for The Beatles as well.
Guys, whether you hate The Beatles or not is not really the point here.
Apple and Apple Corps (the record company) have been fighting for over 30 years on the Apple name and other stuff relating to that. There have been several lawsuits spanning 4 decades ('78 to '06) and now they have worked things out to sell The Beatles music on iTunes. This is a huge, personal win for Apple and good for The Beatles as well.
Underwhelming
This is the most anti-climactic announcement I've ever heard from Apple. As others have noted, those who are Beatles fans likely already own their favorite CD's/tapes/albums, etc. They may now sell a bunch of digital tracks, but I don't grasp how this is momentous or memorable for Apple as a company.
This is the most anti-climactic announcement I've ever heard from Apple. As others have noted, those who are Beatles fans likely already own their favorite CD's/tapes/albums, etc. They may now sell a bunch of digital tracks, but I don't grasp how this is momentous or memorable for Apple as a company.
If consumers reach a ridiculous level of unbridled expectations, its because Apple leads us there.
Apple actually used the phrase "a day which you will never forget". We didn't infer it or make it up. Apple actually WROTE that on their iTunes site. A day I will never forget? Let's see, getting married. Birth of my first child. Apple releases Beatles songs on iTunes.
SAT verbal test here. Which of the above is not like the others?
While I would never expect any company to ever say anything that will make it "a day I will never forget", from Apple I could have expected a revolutionary game changer - e.g., their entire iTunes catalog of music and video available for streaming for a monthly fee. That would be cool. But making a catalog of one band, even a legendary one, for sale on iTunes? A day which I will never forget?
Come on now.
Or maybe Beatles fans have constantly repurchased their albums on vinyl, 8 track, cassette, CD, and finally digital. Do you realize how much 8 track players would eat those tapes?