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The "Bring Back Translucent Menus" Thread

What do you think of the new lack of translucent menus?

  • Translucent menus back for everyone! That's the way it SHOULD be!

    Votes: 67 13.3%

  • Opaque menus are best for EVERYONE! They're the most usable!

    Votes: 36 7.2%

  • I preferred the translucent menus back in 10.5.1 and would like the option back.

    Votes: 227 45.1%

  • I prefer the near-opaque menus we have in 10.5.2 but wouldn't mind the option of both.

    Votes: 80 15.9%

  • Huh? The menus changed?

    Votes: 93 18.5%
  • Total voters
    503
Stratus Fear said:
Taking a look at the logs in /var/log could shed some light on the problem. Be forewarned, they're not the most fun thing to read. Look for stuff referencing sshd.
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Here's what I found:

Mar 25 10:28:32 Mac-Pro sshd[41215]: USER_PROCESS: 41215 ttys000
Mar 25 10:28:32 Mac-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10d960.sshd[41215]): Could not setup Mach task special port 9: (os/kern) no access
Mar 25 10:34:44 Mac-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10e160.sshd[41252]): Could not setup Mach task special port 9: (os/kern) no access

Edit: Here's what happens when I start SSH in System Preferences:

Mac-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.openssh.sshd): Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight
 
TheSpaz said:
IT WORKED!!!!!

I'm going to make a tutorial on exactly what I did.

1. I downloaded the files that Stratus Fear posted (thanks dude!)
2. I enabled the root user by opening /Applications/Utilities/Directory Utility and clicking Edit>Enable Root User
3. I logged out of my normal user and logged into root
4. I went to /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox and backed up the existing HIToolbox and dragged the new one into it's place.
5. I launched /Applications/Utilities/Terminal
6. Type this command in the Terminal:
Code: 
chmod 755 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
7. I went to /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/Versions/A/CoreUI once again making sure I backed up and copied the new CoreUI file and set permissions in the Terminal to 755 using the same method as step 6.
8. I went to /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/Versions/A/Resources/SArtFile.bin and replaced it with the new one... only this time setting the permissions to 644 instead.
9. Logged out and logged back in. My System is now nice and transparent again!!! Woohoo!

I hope this all works for you! It worked for me and I can confirm 100% that Stratus Fear was not lying.
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This may make me sound a little stupid but when i load 'Directory Utility' i cannot select enable root user. it is greyed out.

Can someone please explain?

Cheers

Eddie
 
edwardrjones said:
This may make me sound a little stupid but when i load 'Directory Utility' i cannot select enable root user. it is greyed out.

Can someone please explain?

Cheers

Eddie
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You must unlock the lock icon first.
 

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Just thought I'd mention an alternative, simple unix geek way to update these system files without enabling the root, aka super user account.

1. as admins are sudoers, from a command line type (if you're not already a sudoer):

su admin

...where "admin" should be substituted by an account name on your machine with administrator privileges. This is to switch users to an admin account at the current command line only, its not the equivalent of fast user switching. I always recommend logging in as a standard user with limited privileges, then becoming an admin only when needed.

2. run the sudo commands posted earlier from the above command line while still logged in as a standard user, without enabling root.

Also, normally I do not advocate changing system files, nor getting said files from unknown users on the net. This is the first and hopefully the last time I will feel compelled to do it. Hopefully Apple will realize that the way they have implemented this feature practically causes a security hole exploitable by a combination of hacking (although I assume it would be difficult to hack these binary files without source code) and social engineering.
 
TheSpaz said:
Here's what I found:

Mar 25 10:28:32 Mac-Pro sshd[41215]: USER_PROCESS: 41215 ttys000
Mar 25 10:28:32 Mac-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10d960.sshd[41215]): Could not setup Mach task special port 9: (os/kern) no access
Mar 25 10:34:44 Mac-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10e160.sshd[41252]): Could not setup Mach task special port 9: (os/kern) no access

Edit: Here's what happens when I start SSH in System Preferences:

Mac-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.openssh.sshd): Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight
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Could be a permissions issue maybe?
 
macrem said:
Also, normally I do not advocate changing system files, nor getting said files from unknown users on the net. This is the first and hopefully the last time I will feel compelled to do it.
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Same here, really. Only reason I posted 'em is because I knew people really wanted it and I managed to figure out the files. Usually tinkering with your system or installing files from unknown sources is a recipe for disaster, unless you're really sure of what you're doing.
 
Stratus Fear said:
Could be a permissions issue maybe?
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Just an update guys... my SSH still wasn't working and I fought with it all day to get it to work... well... as luck would have it... Apple released a version 1.1 of their Security Update and after installing that and restarting, my SSH is working normally again... so it WAS an update that caused the problem and they released another update that fixed the problem that the first update caused.
 
TheSpaz said:
Just an update guys... my SSH still wasn't working and I fought with it all day to get it to work... well... as luck would have it... Apple released a version 1.1 of their Security Update and after installing that and restarting, my SSH is working normally again... so it WAS an update that caused the problem and they released another update that fixed the problem that the first update caused.
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Good to see that fixed it. I guess Apple certainly doesn't always get it right :D
 
Not working

Does it work on hackintosh?
I tried it 2 times and my hackintosh running leo4all leopard 10.5.2 crashed and I had to reinstall it.
 
MarlboroLite said:
So has anyone found a hack to bring back the pre .2 menus back?

I had zero legibility issues with the transparent menus and in fact I loved them. I hate it now--the menu bar itself is still pretty translucent but the drop down menus are a joke, there's barely anything there...it's not "subtle" it's 90% opaque....what's the point in even describing it as translucent when it barely is. :confused: Please Apple bring back REAL transparency!!!! You got it right the first time!!!
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Yes, my feelings exactly. It's funny: My dock is translucent black (its on the left now, but i made it black when it was down centered too), I hate the transparent menu bar, but LOVE the translucent menu drop downs and dialogue slide-outs.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Apple, this is from me to you; please please please please please please please please bring aesthetic transparent menu dorps and slide-outs back into Leopard reality.
 
durija said:
I almost can't believe what I am reading. Are our lives so empty that we cnnot think of anything better to do with our time than to complain, endlessly, about the opacity of menus and our lack of control over that opacity? Seems pretty small on the total human scale. Many more important (at least to me) issues out there. i think it is worth thinking about redirecting some energy elsewhere.
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and you're replying BECAUSE.............???????

yeah, that's right. you're bored too.
 
greenfrogz said:
hi, after i replaced the file, I noticed that my safari icons is changed in the toolbar. and almost all the icon is different. anyone face the same problem or can anyone help me?

thanks







EDIT: I fixed it. The reason is I didn't log on into root user to do the changes. XD Thanks anyway
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Yes, me too! And my graphics went all weird............
So, "With me it's all or nothin'"
I say no thank ou. It goofed up my blue tooth and when I was in safari, the menubar is opaque. in terminal it turns translucent when i change focus. It also, messed up time machine, so I'm switching back, thank you very much. (I got my MB like two weks ago, dont want it brokedededed yet)
 
geek-inthe-pink said:
Yes, me too! And my graphics went all weird............
So, "With me it's all or nothin'"
I say no thank ou. It goofed up my blue tooth and when I was in safari, the menubar is opaque. in terminal it turns translucent when i change focus. It also, messed up time machine, so I'm switching back, thank you very much. (I got my MB like two weks ago, dont want it brokedededed yet)
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You did something wrong. If you follow my instructions exactly, it should come out perfect. My Safari is fine, my bluetooth is fine and everything else is fine...

SSH wasn't affected by this edit, a security update broke it and then another security update fixed it.
 
TheSpaz said:
You did something wrong. If you follow my instructions exactly, it should come out perfect. My Safari is fine, my bluetooth is fine and everything else is fine...

SSH wasn't affected by this edit, a security update broke it and then another security update fixed it.
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Yeah I did something wrong - I don't know what it is, but I had to wipe my whole hard drive and reinstall from the disk. It's a pretty painful process.
IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE INSTRUCTIONS, OR YOU THINK ABOUT SKIPPING A STEP, DO NOT ATTEMPT!

The results can be disastrous. Learn from my mistake.
 
geek-inthe-pink said:
Yes, my feelings exactly. It's funny: My dock is translucent black (its on the left now, but i made it black when it was down centered too), I hate the transparent menu bar, but LOVE the translucent menu drop downs and dialogue slide-outs.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Apple, this is from me to you; please please please please please please please please bring aesthetic transparent menu dorps and slide-outs back into Leopard reality.
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Ditto here. I wanted the same thing. So I used a workaround and not that difficult at all. After doing all the steps above, select one or few desktop pictures you like and then modify by putting a rectangle on top. For example, I used photoshop elements (or any other photo editing tool u may have) and for 1680x1050 monitor (and appropriate file), I added a 0.7 cm wide rectangle and it perfectly covers the menu bar. After that, use the drop bucket to paint with the desired color shade and transparency ( I could not set the gradient yet; dont know exactly how to do it; i am new to photoediting) and there you have it.

Very nice looking menu bar with transparent drop down menus. :)
 
I got Leopard a few wks ago and then I updated automatically to the 10.5.2, so I used the translucent menu bar. However, I'd be interested to see at least an option for the translucent menu bar.
 
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