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Hi everyone,

Does iOS 7 maps contain any kind of tappable button that would zoom out on the over-head maps view?

It is beyond irritating that a phone advertised and promoted as being designed for a single hand palm, with only a single thumb for use, requires a two finger tap to zoom out on a map.

I know I can't be the only one who finds this aborrent. I don't have a 7 beta though so I was hoping someone could say if there is any such implement into the new layouts. It would only take a tiny little solid circle. Anyway,

Thank you
 
if you read my first post, the context would give my statement more sense.

on my iPhone 4 on 3G (which is when i most often use maps), the application takes over 45 seconds to load and allow me to search for something. this has nothing to do with the content of the maps, it's the lack of actual practical functionality that makes it so frustrating to use. it is dead slow.

i've used hacked siri on an iphone 4 that works wayyy better than the approved apple maps app.

My apology for not clearly understanding you.

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I would argue in many places that Apple Maps is as accurate or more accurate than Google Maps. You will find flaws and POI problems in both databases.

I would agree with you as I have seen some goofy street names near my home that do not actually exist but hey, at least they get updated.
 
Which is what I said...



Yet I "have no idea about traffic signs"? :confused:

Which proves that you have no idea. The same sign can be applied to any road and is not exclusive to a speed limit of 100. I'm sure you can't go 100 on every road in NZ..

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In fairness to us undereducated U.S. drivers, that sign isn't used in this country. That's why I've never seen it. :)

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/services/publications/fhwaop02084/

Interesting. It is a tricky one but at least very common in Europe, parts of Africa, Middle East and Asia and apparently New Zealand :)
 
The same sign can be applied to any road and is not exclusive to a speed limit of 100.

It does mean 100.

From Wikipedia, "Speed Limit Derestriction (in essence, no posted speed limit, but the maximum legal limit of 100 km/h still must be obeyed)".

From the official site:
 

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Can someone explain how I can pinch in/out and scroll to navigate a map while I am in the middle of navigating a route?

It's an option in Google maps. I've tried in Apple maps, and the only way to do it is the end navigation first.

It's important to be able to look at streets not shown on the screen. Until Apple fixes this, Google is still more handy for me personally.
 
It does mean 100.

From Wikipedia, "Speed Limit Derestriction (in essence, no posted speed limit, but the maximum legal limit of 100 km/h still must be obeyed)".

From the official site:

No, it does not mean 100 per se. I think we are going in circles here. Basically, it comes down to your traffic regulations. I looked into it and apparently the normal speed limit on motorways and primary roads is always 100kmh in NZ. You do not have different speed limits for different roads. Correct me if I am wrong, but you go 100kmh outside cities and 50kmh within if not otherwise specified. Therefore, the sign is not confusing in any way to any tourist familiar with the derestriction sign, as it only states that any limitation is lifted now and in the case of NZ, this happens to be 100kmh all the time outside of cities. I would assume that any tourist coming to NZ would at least familiarise himself with the basic traffic regulations and speed limits.

To give you a practical example (probably good for you to know when travelling), You are on a road where you can usually go not faster than 70kmh, for whatever reason, there is a section where speed is limited to 40kmh. At some point they put up the Speed Limit Derestriction sign, which means the limitation of 40kmh is lifted. This does not mean that you can go 100kmh now on this road but 70kmh again which represents the maximum speed that is permitted on that road. "Your confusion" here stems from the regulations in NZ where apparently you can always go 100kmh when not otherwise stated. For example in the UK, the max speed on motorways is 70mph while on single carriageways it is 60mph. When you see the derestriction sign on the single carriageway, it will mean you can go 60mph again and not 70mph. Same applies to motorways, where the sign just indicates that any speed restriction has been lifted and you can go 70mph again. Fun fact, if you see that sign on a German motorway, it indeed means there is no speed restriction at all and you can go as fast as you like. And again, this is not down to the meaning of the sign but down to the regulation in that country, that states that there is no speed limit on motorways if not otherwise specified. The derestriction sign simply indicates an end of a speed restriction in GENERAL and does not stand for a specific speed limit. The meaning in NZ is exactly the same as in the UK. I hope this makes it clearer to you as the wiki page is stating exactly that.

edit: The United Nations Convention on Road Traffic, Signs & Signals" where the sign is catalogued "C,17a", is; "End of all local prohibitions imposed on moving vehicles"
 
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He's not the only one. I've been driving for 33 years, and I've never seen that sign in my life.

The sign in the US looks different but is at least represented in the same colours. For my part, I would spot the similarity immediately. Perhaps you haven't been driving a lot abroad?
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Edit: by the way, you can probably tell I am bored.
 
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As someone who adores Apple Maps because he finds the accuracy the same between Google/Apple/Waze/Scout but the Apple UI leaps and bounds ahead...

I am woefully disappointed in Apple's literal interpretation of skewmorphism when it comes to apps that are naturally superior because of their skewmorphism. I don't need leather stitching on an address book, but I do need green signs on Maps, sorry. The disappointments:

- Loss of drop shadow on the car arrow and road signs makes it harder to spot the necessities.
- Ugly white background on the whole display is garish and distracting.
- The thick white bar at the top removes 10% of the viewable area underneath.

The only thing Apple got right was the inclusion of ETA and total time, no longer do you need to tap and reveal a bar, but they took the magic out of the app completely. Apple had the best turn-by-turn UI and display and they blew it. This looks worse than Google Maps, unbelievable, so back to Google I go.

BJ
I completely agree. I don't understand how Apple thinks this is an improvement over the IOS6 navigation UI.

A high-contrast UI is a critical element of any usable navigation software. A good navigation UI must tell the driver where they are and what they need to do, at a quick glance, in direct sunlight, while traveling 75mph, and the low-contrast IOS7 navigation UI does not do that.

If I were a car manufacturer, I would see little reason to incorporate support for this navigation software, because the UI is a downgrade from other high-contrast navigation UIs.
 
Which proves that you have no idea. The same sign can be applied to any road and is not exclusive to a speed limit of 100. I'm sure you can't go 100 on every road in NZ..

What you say doesn't even make sense. Why would there be a sign indicating "you may go the maximum allowable speed on this particular street... if you don't know what that speed is I suggest you pull over to your local information center and acquire a detailed alphabetized list of every street indicating the maximum speed" Maximum speeds on a road-by-road basis are called speed limits and they typically have an actual number on them indicating the maximum speed.

Now it would make more sense if say there were a maximum speed limit in a country... but not on an individual street basis.

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The sign in the US looks different but is at least represented in the same colours. For my part, I would spot the similarity immediately. Perhaps you haven't been driving a lot abroad?
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Now you are just talking crazy talk.... Because our speed limit signs (with numbers indicating the actual maximum speed) are black and white, we should instantly recognize a black and white sign with no numbers on it that has a big slash through it to obviously mean "Go 100" or "Go the maximum allowable speed" (still a ridiculous notion to me).
 
Back on topic....*cough*

Here are a couple of shots of the new night mode, portrait and landscape. Hadn't seen any pictures of this yet.
 

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What you say doesn't even make sense. Why would there be a sign indicating "you may go the maximum allowable speed on this particular street... if you don't know what that speed is I suggest you pull over to your local information center and acquire a detailed alphabetized list of every street indicating the maximum speed" Maximum speeds on a road-by-road basis are called speed limits and they typically have an actual number on them indicating the maximum speed.

Now it would make more sense if say there were a maximum speed limit in a country... but not on an individual street basis.

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Now you are just talking crazy talk.... Because our speed limit signs (with numbers indicating the actual maximum speed) are black and white, we should instantly recognize a black and white sign with no numbers on it that has a big slash through it to obviously mean "Go 100" or "Go the maximum allowable speed" (still a ridiculous notion to me).

What I say makes sense as it is even laid out in the UN traffic regulations.. Not sure where you are coming from exactly but there is usually a speed limit on i.e. motorways that will always apply when not otherwise stated. As explained in my example the GENERAL speed limit on Uk motorways is 70mph. You won't see ONE single sign on the motorway saying 70 on it as it is given and drivers should know that. Therefore, the sign, and I went through long length to explain it to a sane person, on how the sign is being used in day to day traffic. The sign represents the end of a speed limitation and gives the driver the information that he can go back to 70 again after passing the sign. Perhaps you go slowly over my lengthy post again. There are more roads than just motorways and different speed limits apply (s. single carriageway). Might not be the case where you live but usually rules are defined for motorways, primary roads outside cities, city speed limits etc. in my example I stated single carriageways where you have to know hat the limit is 60 as you will not always see a sign reminding you of that. It makes sense, as it would cost a hell a lot of money to put up signs every couple of miles/km to remind people what speed they are supposed to drive. It is kind of smart to define general speed limits for certain type of roads. I don't believe that in the US you have no general rule that applies to I.e. driving on a motorway/highway.

In regards to the US sign, I don't say you would have spotted the similarity but I would have certainly as the sign looks sometimes different in other countries but usually it is black and white (Japan same sign but blue and white).

As the guy from NZ, you know your area pretty well but probably haven't been driving anywhere else in the world.
 
Can someone explain how I can pinch in/out and scroll to navigate a map while I am in the middle of navigating a route?

It's an option in Google maps. I've tried in Apple maps, and the only way to do it is the end navigation first.

It's important to be able to look at streets not shown on the screen. Until Apple fixes this, Google is still more handy for me personally.

If you mean while you have turn by turn directions on...click on the top bar, then "end" on left and "overview" on right should appear, if you click on overview it will zoom out to the whole route without ending, then you can zoom and such, go back to turn by turn with "resume", or just click the arrow and it will keep your gps point in middle, and, if voice is on, still tell you when to turn. ...does this answer your question? (I use maps a lot)

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Bah...only one pic at a time...I knew it wasn't me...

I like this, but it's only with turn by turn directions on...I'd like it to be like this with the map as well...need some settings for this.
 
I noticed that iOS 7 Maps changed the colour of many roads from white to yellow. I'm not sure why that was done, but I'm not a fan of this decision.

Meanwhile, Google Maps, which had yellow roads for many years, recently changed them to white in the newest version.

That's rather bizarre. Google and Apple just completely traded places in that respect.
 
Maps could also do with lane guidance to tell you what lane to be in. Great for town driving.

This would be great for highway driving as well!

Doesn't Tom Tom support this on their GPS units? Shouldn't be too hard for Apple to implement.
 
I've been using Maps to get traffic info, best route and such straight from the calendar app as I navigate to my student's houses for work (I'm a music teacher) and to school ever since I've loaded iOS 7 Beta. Of course, I've always loved the app-sync between the native apps for addresses in the calendar app, but I'm glad to say that I actually CAN use Maps again. Such a relief. At least for my area, I haven't noticed any discrepancies. Maps are much clearer to read up top during turn-by-turn, and I actually can read the blue route line better in iOS 7 than I was able to in iOS 6. I found that interesting. Maybe it's the white balance up top in the UI vs. the green signs?
 
I noticed that iOS 7 Maps changed the colour of many roads from white to yellow. I'm not sure why that was done, but I'm not a fan of this decision.

Meanwhile, Google Maps, which had yellow roads for many years, recently changed them to white in the newest version.

That's rather bizarre. Google and Apple just completely traded places in that respect.

I had a hard time seeing those white roads sometimes, too light against the light background...I like the changes, Maps is improved overall. But, like others posted here, need more guidance, such as what lane to be in.

The one thing I do not like about maps...when in turn by turn mode the "End" and "overview" buttons disappear...you have to click on the top bar, then they appear again while the voice repeats the next direction, kind of lame, then you can press end or overview.

One more thing w/Maps...if you click on the map, it goes full screen. Up to beta 3 this also worked after mapping out your destination, but, since beta 4 this doesn't work anymore, I liked this, as sometimes I just use the map zoomed in where I want, click on the arrow and it keeps GPS on center. I don't always want to use turn by turn, and it was nice seeing all map on my screen back in beta 3.
 
The one thing I do not like about maps...when in turn by turn mode the "End" and "overview" buttons disappear...you have to click on the top bar, then they appear again while the voice repeats the next direction, kind of lame, then you can press end or overview.

Probably by design. They've 'hidden' those buttons behind a press so there are less visual distractions from the one important thing, the map.
 
Probably by design. They've 'hidden' those buttons behind a press so there are less visual distractions from the one important thing, the map.

And clicking anywhere on the map (not just the top bar) brings up that menu for a few seconds. I like it.
 
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