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I lost work time because of the Magic Mouse's port being on the bottom.
So glad I have an MX Master 3S. My only complaint is the software being Electron.
Cannot see how anyone would loose work time. One, the Mac alerts when the mouse is getting low. Two, a 2 minute charge will give you several hours of use time. I have found the above to be accurate and has worked for me. Maybe you needed to understand how to use the Magic Mouse battery.
 
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Cannot see how anyone would loose work time. One, the Mac alerts when the mouse is getting low. Two, a 2 minute charge will give you several hours of use time. I have found the above to be accurate and has worked for me. Maybe you needed to understand how to use the Magic Mouse battery.
I think people tend to frame this as: “I don’t have a problem so I don’t believe one exists” -but there are several scenarios where that kind of thinking falls apart. I’d imagine the warning can catch you at a bad time, you forget to do it because it’s crunch time. And you go sit back down in the editing bay after a dog of a long day of shooting only for your mouse to die. But you’re still pushing against a deadline. Plenty of ways this can go badly even with the good battery life on offer. There should always be a fallback and there should never be a single point of failure but that’s just the ITIL talking, im sure other people don’t get it
 
I’ve read all 7 pages hoping to see a single mention of the feet, but it’s all about the charging port… 🙃

The feet looks different in the photo, like more rubbery and soft. I wonder if this is just an illusion in the 3D model. The material looks identical to the rubber feet on the keyboard. What do you think?

I personally don’t like the hard plastic feet as I prefer not to use a mouse pad. I’ve “solved” this with some felt, or even just Scotch tape, on the feet but would prefer the feet to be made of another material.
 
I’ve read all 7 pages hoping to see a single mention of the feet, but it’s all about the charging port… 🙃

The feet looks different in the photo, like more rubbery and soft. I wonder if this is just an illusion in the 3D model. The material looks identical to the rubber feet on the keyboard. What do you think?

I personally don’t like the hard plastic feet as I prefer not to use a mouse pad. I’ve “solved” this with some felt, or even just Scotch tape, on the feet but would prefer the feet to be made of another material.
While I didn't notice the change in the foot I did bring up how lousy the skates are on the other magic mice
 
I think people tend to frame this as: “I don’t have a problem so I don’t believe one exists” -but there are several scenarios where that kind of thinking falls apart. I’d imagine the warning can catch you at a bad time, you forget to do it because it’s crunch time. And you go sit back down in the editing bay after a dog of a long day of shooting only for your mouse to die. But you’re still pushing against a deadline. Plenty of ways this can go badly even with the good battery life on offer. There should always be a fallback and there should never be a single point of failure but that’s just the ITIL talking, im sure other people don’t get itm

Two minutes, really? If the mouse that important, two minutes will wreck ones day, night want check the battery before starting.
 
I think you wonkified that second quote but I get what you were going for.

Can one sit and judge a scenario or workload we don’t understand? I’m glad I don’t have a schedule that hectic (first world problem right there) but I know folks that do. It doesn’t change the fact that the mouse has a single point of failure. Two minutes for you may not be as valuable or stressful as it is for someone else. At least with the older models you could swap the battery in 10 seconds and keep on going. People here are extremely privileged, sheltered and rigid when it comes to their defense of Apple in the face of what is a perfectly valid criticism. It’s classic gaslighting and othering all over the place
 
I cannot believe anyone was thinking Apple would fix this. The only way they would address this is when they do a complete overhaul and release some advanced Magic Mouse Ultra Pro.

But that won’t happen because this mouse is perfect ;-)
 


Apple today updated its Magic Mouse, Magic Keyboard, and Magic Trackpad accessories for the Mac with USB-C charging ports, but the accessories have no other external design changes. Yes, that means the Magic Mouse's charging port is still located on the bottom of the mouse, despite the switch from Lightning to USB-C.

Magic-Mouse-USB-C.jpg

The position of the charging port on the Magic Mouse has been the subject of a meme on social media since 2015, as it means the mouse cannot be used while it is charging in an upside-down position, but Apple is clearly unfazed.

The augmented reality view of the new iMac on Apple's website confirms the bottom position of the USB-C port on the updated Magic Mouse, as shown above.

Apple includes the updated Magic Mouse and Magic Keyboard in the box with the iMac, and the Magic Trackpad is an optional upgrade. The USB-C versions of the accessories are also sold separately in white and black color options.

Article Link: The Meme Lives On: Magic Mouse's USB-C Charging Port Still on Bottom
I could live with the bizarre affectation of a plug in the bottom if the mac it was attached to would warn me it was running low sometime BEFORE it was down to 2% !!!
 
I cannot believe anyone was thinking Apple would fix this. The only way they would address this is when they do a complete overhaul and release some advanced Magic Mouse Ultra Pro.

But that won’t happen because this mouse is perfect ;-)
I never expected them to fix this, it doesn’t add to any sort of measurable shareholder value and that’s the only reason Apple does something these days. They can still take the perfectly valid criticism from the internet. But I suspect that any site critical of their decisions is never seen or read, be it some corporate firewall or corporate blinders it’s clear Apple operates, for better or worse, in a vacuum. The only time this wasn’t the case was with the Mac Pro media meeting.
 
I feel like Apple is trolling us at this point. The fact they still kept it on the bottom hahaha
I think it is more about being lazy than actually trolling. The very minimal change required for EU charging port compliance. Apple was not interested in a MM redesign. They are satisfied with the current MM market and didn’t want to spend time or money on an update that would not increase sales
 
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Honestly asking, what shortcomings are there with it other than the charging port? I use one daily for 8 hours a day and the only thing that drives me nuts is the charging port when it runs low and dies. Otherwise I love the gestures and everything else about it.
The shape is pretty bad ergonomics, some people may be fine with it, but for most it is going to cause issues. However that is only for people using it for long periods. The big issue aside from the port, is the sensor. It still has the same sensor from the AA battery version released in 2009, which was already a little behind back then. Since then, mouse sensors have improved dramatically. Apple is shipping the same quality sensor you would get in a mouse from 5 Below for $5, in a $99 shell. Usually Apple's prices are justified by their quality, but in this case it is unjustifiable. Apple should have the best components internally and they usually do. Only thing I can imagine at this point is that they plan on releasing a pro mouse. Anyone who has spent more than a day with a modern mouse with a modern sensor, has a really hard time going back to the Magic Mouse. It's like using a resistive touch screen in 2024.
 
The shape is pretty bad ergonomics, some people may be fine with it, but for most it is going to cause issues. However that is only for people using it for long periods. The big issue aside from the port, is the sensor. It still has the same sensor from the AA battery version released in 2009, which was already a little behind back then. Since then, mouse sensors have improved dramatically. Apple is shipping the same quality sensor you would get in a mouse from 5 Below for $5, in a $99 shell. Usually Apple's prices are justified by their quality, but in this case it is unjustifiable. Apple should have the best components internally and they usually do. Only thing I can imagine at this point is that they plan on releasing a pro mouse. Anyone who has spent more than a day with a modern mouse with a modern sensor, has a really hard time going back to the Magic Mouse. It's like using a resistive touch screen in 2024.
I could not have put it any better. I have a razor basilisk for my gaming PC and a MX Master 3 for my work laptops. The razor has insane DPI, the master 3 lets me pair it with up to 3 computers (a Mac and couple of PCs for work) plus the Master has incredible battery life that eclipses the Magic Mouse. You can get better hardware (under the hood) from an Amazon mouse at half the price. I guess a Magic Mouse pro would make sense in some way but Apple doesn’t really do peripheral refreshes unless forced to (looking at you Pro Display)
 
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Those who say the mouse sucks - show me a mouse that has similar infinite side to side scrolling and vertical scrolling that doesn’t use a horrible tactile wheel placed in the middle of the thing.
 
I think people tend to frame this as: “I don’t have a problem so I don’t believe one exists” -but there are several scenarios where that kind of thinking falls apart. I’d imagine the warning can catch you at a bad time, you forget to do it because it’s crunch time. And you go sit back down in the editing bay after a dog of a long day of shooting only for your mouse to die. But you’re still pushing against a deadline. Plenty of ways this can go badly even with the good battery life on offer. There should always be a fallback and there should never be a single point of failure but that’s just the ITIL talking, im sure other people don’t get it
Please explain where the "single point of failure" is. Your scenario above has multiple points of failure: "I’d imagine the warning can catch you at a bad time [Failure 1], you forget to do it because it’s crunch time [Failure 2]. And you go sit back down in the editing bay after a dog of a long day of shooting only for your mouse to die [Failure 3]. But you’re still pushing against a deadline [Failure 4].

Failure 4 is particularly important (and consists of multiple other failures you didn't list), because you are working so close to the deadline that two minutes to put a usable charge on your mouse will cause you to blow past the deadline. In that scenario is it really the location of the charge port on your mouse that's the problem?

The truth here is that this whole "issue" is about aesthetics, not functionality. The actual impact of the charging port location on functionality is profoundly irrelevant. People get angry about this because they want to be able to use their wireless mouse as a wired mouse. Apple's designers know that if they were to put the port on the edge, some users will use it as a wired mouse all the time. As designers, they want people to use it as a wireless mouse, because it's a wireless mouse. It says that right on the box.

Before you argue that the functional impact is not profoundly irrelevant, you must first account for the issue on both sides of the ledger. Apple also knows that were they to put the charging port on the edge of the mouse, thus enabling people to use it as a wired mouse, they would inevitably receive some customer complaints for instances where using the mouse in wired mode negatively impacts functionality. For instance, using it on a cluttered desk, where the charger wire bumps into other objects could be a problem.

Before you say, "Don't be ridiculous, it's unlikely very many people would experience enough of a problem from this that they would complain to Apple about it," you'd have to compare that to the probability that someone would actually blow a deadline because they didn't have a minute or two (after being warned) to go ahead and charge their wireless mouse. Both scenarios are low-probability and ridiculous, which brings us right back to the fact that this issue isn't about functionality anyway. It's about aesthetics, and the designers who care about aesthetics for a living don't want you to use their wireless mouse as a wired mouse.
 
Those who say the mouse sucks - show me a mouse that has similar infinite side to side scrolling and vertical scrolling that doesn’t use a horrible tactile wheel placed in the middle of the thing.
Advanced features are really nice to have, but you can't put those features ahead of basic functionality.Most people are buying a mouse to use basic mouse functions.. convenient charging, ergonomics, smooth tracking and movement. You got the icing for the top, but no cake. When people are buying cake, they want cake.

Please explain where the "single point of failure" is. Your scenario above has multiple points of failure: "I’d imagine the warning can catch you at a bad time [Failure 1], you forget to do it because it’s crunch time [Failure 2]. And you go sit back down in the editing bay after a dog of a long day of shooting only for your mouse to die [Failure 3]. But you’re still pushing against a deadline [Failure 4].

I think that was what they were expressing. It shouldn't have even one single point of failure, yet it has many.
 
If you download Logi Options+ you can change all that.
Thanks, I now the are third party options, but would be nice if it was built in.

The same when it comes to zoom in on for example web pages when holding down a modifier key. In Windows holding down the ctrl key and scrolling the scroll wheel up and down will zoom in and out. This can be set in MacOS with third party software (I use SteerMouse), but again, would be nice if it was built-in. Not everyone is using a trackpad or Magic Mouse where one can pinch to zoom.
 
Honestly, I love that they’ve done this because it’s going to piss off all the wrong people. It’s a manufactured rage bait topic and a completely non-existent problem in real world use.

You’ll charge your Mouse 3-4 times per year. 2 hours while you sleep gives you months of use. If you somehow missed all the battery warnings over weeks, then a 30 second charge will give you several hours of use. A 2 minute charge will let you work through an 8 hour day.
 
I can't remember what it says specifically, but I do get a warning to charge my magic mouse and keyboard when they get down to 5%.

Yes, I think it's around there too. But I'd welcome a visual prompt maybe in the main menu that might be a yellow dot at 10% and then a red dot at 5% or something like that.

As is, I delete the notification but then forget at the end of the day.
 
Thanks, I now the are third party options, but would be nice if it was built in.

The same when it comes to zoom in on for example web pages when holding down a modifier key. In Windows holding down the ctrl key and scrolling the scroll wheel up and down will zoom in and out. This can be set in MacOS with third party software (I use SteerMouse), but again, would be nice if it was built-in. Not everyone is using a trackpad or Magic Mouse where one can pinch to zoom.
Logi Options is first party software for Logitech (Unless you were meaning MacOS should have it built in, but I don't think Logitech has any power in that realm). As far as zoom goes, if you are already reaching for the keyboard on Windows, you can keyboard zoom from MacOS too, it just doesn't use the mouse wheel. You can also set custom keyboard shortcuts in MacOS if the default keys aren't positioned where it is easy for you to reach.
 
I can never understand why Apple puts so much emphasis on quality-of-life for certain things, but not for others. Why, after several decades, Apple still makes us rely on third-party apps and products for many basic things on Mac that are simply native on PC. I remember, about 25 years ago, when a PC user would look at a Mac and think "Why don't we have this? Why didn't we think of that?". Today, that PC user trying a Mac will often find himself thinking "What? You can't even do this on Mac?" or "10 years without updating that device?".
 
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