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What describes you?

  • No way would I build a hackintosh

    Votes: 349 23.0%
  • I'd consider it if Apple doesn't provide a new Mini or headless iMac in the next three months

    Votes: 185 12.2%
  • I'm considering it right now

    Votes: 578 38.2%
  • I already built one

    Votes: 403 26.6%

  • Total voters
    1,515
"I'm considering it right now "
or more accurately, i might if I still had an old 486 around. :p
oh, but osx86 prob won't run on even 3 year old computers?
if i had an excess of new computers around, one of the hackintosh brethren might be an interesting experiment, but i don't have any suitable spares.
if i had a spare 2000+ Athlon or p4, i'd install pclos, or pud, or mint, or similar modern desktop. I need my one i586 to run xp, and i'm not going to (statistically) mess up mbr boot tables whatever, by messing with multiple oses. too many things already go "wrong" with (all) computers... then it takes a bother of time to sort out those things.
i like what computers can do (once tweaked and configged), but in themselves, computers are not "fun" to me.
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What's the incessant re-login on this site about? is it related to the initial-posting tally? (20 posts?)
 
ok im an idiot. i deleted the ACPI kext thingo bceause of some reason (to drop temperatues or something). so of course it freezes on bootup. luckily i made a backup! so i go into windows, replace the driver with the working one and reboot. it reboots fine, i repair disk permissions and whatnot then off i go. i use the computer like normal. then if i try to restart it freezes on restart again. its like its not remembering the kext that ive replaced it with.

any ideas? should i delete the "extensions.mkext"?
 
ok im an idiot. i deleted the ACPI kext thingo bceause of some reason (to drop temperatues or something). so of course it freezes on bootup. luckily i made a backup! so i go into windows, replace the driver with the working one and reboot. it reboots fine, i repair disk permissions and whatnot then off i go. i use the computer like normal. then if i try to restart it freezes on restart again. its like its not remembering the kext that ive replaced it with.

any ideas? should i delete the "extensions.mkext"?

If you don't have any IDE devices I would recommend getting ride of the JMicron.kext. It was the source of all my kernel panics. Since I have removed it I haven't had a single one yet.
 
If you don't have any IDE devices I would recommend getting ride of the JMicron.kext. It was the source of all my kernel panics. Since I have removed it I haven't had a single one yet.

removing Jmicron wont mess anything up then right?

i have the jmicronata.kext and all my devices are sata, not ata

i will say i experince kernel panics sorta often with my dvd drive when burning, or installing a program or watching a movie, etc so if this fixes it then awesome
 
ok im an idiot. i deleted the ACPI kext thingo bceause of some reason (to drop temperatues or something). so of course it freezes on bootup. luckily i made a backup! so i go into windows, replace the driver with the working one and reboot. it reboots fine, i repair disk permissions and whatnot then off i go. i use the computer like normal. then if i try to restart it freezes on restart again. its like its not remembering the kext that ive replaced it with.

any ideas? should i delete the "extensions.mkext"?
For the heat you want to get rid of the Apple Thermal and the one that freezes most systems the AppleIntelCPUManagement.kext. Once you have replaced/removed .kext's then you need to typing in your password set on install after the sudo command in Terminal.

Code:
sudo -s
diskutil repairPermissions /
rm -r /Volumes/username/System/Library/Extensions/Caches
rm -r /Volumes/username/System/Library/Caches
rm /Volumes/username/System/Library/Extensions.mkext

Replacing the username with the one you use once you reboot you need to hit the F8 key to get to the boot loader there you use the hit any key option to get to the command line to type in and then hit enter key -v -f to boot in verbose mode forcing the reload/caching of the .kext on the system so the changes are seen.
it boots from an IDE drive :( only thing i had lying around..

Then your going to want to search on kext_for_JMicron_ATA.zip site:insanelymac.com in Google to hopefully solve the issue with IDE devices and 4gb of ram in machine if this is what is going on.
 
1. For the heat you want to get rid of the Apple Thermal and the one that freezes most systems the AppleIntelCPUManagement.kext. Once you have replaced/removed .kext's then you need to typing in your password set on install after the sudo command in Terminal.

Code:
sudo -s
diskutil repairPermissions /
rm -r /Volumes/username/System/Library/Extensions/Caches
rm -r /Volumes/username/System/Library/Caches
rm /Volumes/username/System/Library/Extensions.mkext

Replacing the username with the one you use once you reboot you need to hit the F8 key to get to the boot loader there you use the hit any key option to get to the command line to type in and then hit enter key -v -f to boot in verbose mode forcing the reload/caching of the .kext on the system so the changes are seen.


2. Then your going to want to search on kext_for_JMicron_ATA.zip site:insanelymac.com in Google to hopefully solve the issue with IDE devices and 4gb of ram in machine if this is what is going on.

1. thankyou very much i will try that very soon :)

2. nope im not having any issues with it the topic just kind of popped up outa nowhere, thanks for the help anyway!
 
For a quad core one yes, when you start thinking eight core then the Mac actually starts to make sense financially.

I will probably get a new computer in 4 years or later so there will most likely be double-super-quadruple cores by then! :p
 
I remember when my Tandy 64k RAM Color Computer with a cassette recorder was considered state of the art. Things sure have changed...

In the future we will be saying the same about the Mac Pros... "Remember back in the day when 16GB of RAM was huge! And everyone had just dual core CPUs on their MacBooks! Unbelievable!"
 
Though still expensive for RAM, you can get 4GB for $380 from OWC. Keep in mind Mac Pro RAM is special.
I purchased 4GB RAM (2X2 matching pairs), decent name brand modules too, for ~120€ (~$175) from a local shop. This cost is a little more than filling my car with a tank of gas in Europe. The irony for me is historically electronics have been cheaper (and broadband faster) in the US. It makes sense though that the Euro is strong so imports from, for ex., Taiwan are cheaper in Euros than Dollars. Also now broadband is much faster in Europe. Its amazing how much things have changed over the past ~7 years.
 
I purchased 4GB RAM (2X2 matching pairs), decent name brand modules too, for ~120€ (~$175) from a local shop. This cost is a little more than filling my car with a tank of gas in Europe. The irony for me is historically electronics have been cheaper (and broadband faster) in the US. It makes sense though that the Euro is strong so imports from, for ex., Taiwan are cheaper in Euros than Dollars. Also now broadband is much faster in Europe. Its amazing how much things have changed over the past ~7 years.

800mhz ECC FB-DIMM stuff??
 
I will probably get a new computer in 4 years or later so there will most likely be double-super-quadruple cores by then! :p

No doubt there with 64gb ram just to feed all them cores with data and blazing fast 1tb Solid State Disks...

I remember when my Tandy 64k RAM Color Computer with a cassette recorder was considered state of the art. Things sure have changed...

In the future we will be saying the same about the Mac Pros... "Remember back in the day when 16GB of RAM was huge! And everyone had just dual core CPUs on their MacBooks! Unbelievable!"

Lets hope some new company named Skynet doesn't come out with a new advanced Terminator model that knocks the socks off of everybody elses computer - lol

imagination and to much television
 
I did some research comparing two equivalent systems:

a 8 core pc server.

Code:
Intel Workstation Chassis SC5299-E (WS) w/ 670-Watt PFC PowerSupply$269.95

Intel Quad-Core Xeon® Processor E5440 2.83GHz (2U Passive) w/ 2x6MB Cache $829.95 * 2 = $1,659.90

Intel Server Board S5000VSA (SATAR) $429.95

Kingston ValueRAM 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 ECC FBDIMM CL5 Kit (2 x 1GB) $114.95

Hitachi 500GB Deskstar T7K500 SATA II w/ 16MB Cach $79.95

LG Super Multi Security DVD Writer 20x20x12x, SATA w/ Lightscribe $32.95

Asus EAH2600PRO 256MB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDTV-Out $69.95

AuzenTech HDA X-Plosion 7.1 DTS Connect $89.95

D-Link GigaExpress 10/100/1000Mbps PCI Gigabit Ethernet Adapter $29.95

for a total of $2,867.50

a 8 core mac pro with developer discount.

Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core)
2GB (2x1GB)
500GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB
One 16x SuperDrive
Apple Mighty Mouse
Apple Keyboard (English) + User's Guide
for $2,359.00

maybe the mac pro is not so bad after all when you compare it to a hackintosh of similar performance.

I really don't want to get a quad core even if there are large savings. A quad core pc with 8gb of ram and etc(...) would be around 1k. But it's performance is far less than a 8 core mac pro or hackintosh, obviously.

I'm definitely going to get a pro. Apple has me by the nuts again. lol
 
I did some research comparing two equivalent systems:

a 8 core pc server.

Code:
Intel Workstation Chassis SC5299-E (WS) w/ 670-Watt PFC PowerSupply$269.95

Intel Quad-Core Xeon® Processor E5440 2.83GHz (2U Passive) w/ 2x6MB Cache $829.95 * 2 = $1,659.90

Intel Server Board S5000VSA (SATAR) $429.95

Kingston ValueRAM 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 ECC FBDIMM CL5 Kit (2 x 1GB) $114.95

Hitachi 500GB Deskstar T7K500 SATA II w/ 16MB Cach $79.95

LG Super Multi Security DVD Writer 20x20x12x, SATA w/ Lightscribe $32.95

Asus EAH2600PRO 256MB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDTV-Out $69.95

AuzenTech HDA X-Plosion 7.1 DTS Connect $89.95

D-Link GigaExpress 10/100/1000Mbps PCI Gigabit Ethernet Adapter $29.95

for a total of $2,867.50

a 8 core mac pro with developer discount.



maybe the mac pro is not so bad after all when you compare it to a hackintosh of similar performance.

I really don't want to get a quad core even if there are large savings. A quad core pc with 8gb of ram and etc(...) would be around 1k. But it's performance is far less than a 8 core mac pro or hackintosh, obviously.

I'm definitely going to get a pro. Apple has me by the nuts again. lol

Well... yeah - that's what people seem to conveniently "forget" when they rant on about how Macs are overpriced; the truth is... that is SO far removed from the truth, when the TCO is broken down (that requires a brain , and they seem to be in short supply!) that it's laughable. I like PCs and I love learning about recent developments/ram/processors/gfx cards etc, but when they say that "Macs are overpriced" I just got one thing to say, and it comes from a pony's backside.... ;)
 
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