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  • No way would I build a hackintosh

    Votes: 349 23.0%
  • I'd consider it if Apple doesn't provide a new Mini or headless iMac in the next three months

    Votes: 185 12.2%
  • I'm considering it right now

    Votes: 578 38.2%
  • I already built one

    Votes: 403 26.6%

  • Total voters
    1,515
i care about the performance of the machine!

Everyone cares about the performance of their machine, but all that is moot if the damn hardware doesnt work the way its supposed to. It might be forgivable for a $500 laptop to have wifi issues, maybe a $700 laptop even, but apple charges you $2800 for the basic mbp and it still has wifi issues. How can you say a machine performs well when the internet connection spontaneously craps out? Performance and quality are often directly related and very seldom independent qualities.
 
All I know is...

... my Hackintosh works better than my MacBook. Not only is it much faster (obviously) but it even runs certain software that the MacBook just didn't like.

And then there's the price - these are in New Zealand dollars so to get US chop em in half:

My Hac is a core2duo 3ghz, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVD writer, Geforce 9600GT. The entire lot including Sunbeamtech Trio case and 600w power supply cost me $1300. The closest I could configure on the Apple site in the form of a Mac pro was $6700. And the graphics card isn't even as good as mine! Granted, the mac pro has a quad core at that price but I could easily upgrade to said CPU for another few hundred dollars.

I'm sorry but Apple are nothing but a bunch of rip-off merchants. This computer is rock-solid. It's never crashed (unlike my MacBook and every other Mac I've owned - you know the "your computer needs to be shut down" screen) and it simply flies.

I do love the look of Apple's hardware but is it really worth an extra $5000? I think not. Oh and for all you people who say "but PCs are made from cheap componentry", mine isn't. I went for as close to an Apple configuration as I could find. And guess what? APPLE MAC PRO'S PARTS ARE MANUFACTURED BY ASUS, as well as various other PC parts manufacturers such as Foxconn etc.

Until Apple drop their prices severely and stop doing stoopid **** like removing firewire from the Macbook, I'll stick with my trusty Hac. Fast, reliable and upgradeable. Oh and I can have a separate HDD for (ugh) Windows so I can do a spot of gaming.

Apple should just do the world a favour and release OS X for PC.
 
Until Apple drop their prices severely and stop doing stoopid **** like removing firewire from the Macbook, I'll stick with my trusty Hac. Fast, reliable and upgradeable.

Apple should just do the world a favour and release OS X for PC.

I agree. Apple does alot of controversial things with their computers (people usually come around in the end), and for the few relatively technologically inclined, hackintoshes are an option.

Really though, if you think about the current state of things: the vast majority of people still think of macs as separate, incompatible machines compared to PCs. If apple really cracked down on hackintosh users, they'd lose one of the ways they convert people. On the other hand, if they just distribute the software for all intel platforms, not only will it become harder to maintain compatibility, but people will begin to pirate OS X much more instead of buying.

The compromise we have right now really isn't all that bad. I plan to build a computer eventually that will triple boot ubuntu, os x, and windows, and play with it as a hobby if not use it as my main computer.
 
8 gb - whoo-hoo!

I just installed another 4 gb of RAM in the hackintosh. Looks like it's all useable as I had six instances of piggy running (1 gb RAM each) and had no slow down issues. Time for a photoshop ram disk!
 

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I never understood apples stance on not wanting thier software to run on anything but mac hardware. wouldnt you want as many people as possible using your software especially over windows.

to me it just seems like laziness. not really wanting to have to chase technology to create solid apple standard quality drivers.
 
I never understood apples stance on not wanting thier software to run on anything but mac hardware. wouldnt you want as many people as possible using your software especially over windows.

to me it just seems like laziness. not really wanting to have to chase technology to create solid apple standard quality drivers.

oh your so far off that its not funny....:eek:
 
I just installed another 4 gb of RAM in the hackintosh. Looks like it's all useable as I had six instances of piggy running (1 gb RAM each) and had no slow down issues. Time for a photoshop ram disk!

As long as you have no IDE drives you can use as much ram as you want. Unfortunately i have an ide hdd i cant get rid of so im stuck using only 3.25 of my 4gb or it crashes :(
 
As long as you have no IDE drives you can use as much ram as you want. Unfortunately i have an ide hdd i cant get rid of so im stuck using only 3.25 of my 4gb or it crashes :(

I'll assume you have Jmicron chip for the controller if so then look for the fixed version on the insanelymac site I use it in my spare machine which has an IDE drive in it with 4gb of ram works fine.
 
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It didnt work for me. My sata drive still works, of course, but the ide drive didnt show up to the party...
Back to 3.25gb it is....
 
I installed it with KextHelper, so it should have any issues....
Om on a GA-P35-DS3L mobo with an sata drive and an ide drive. Osx is on the sata, so i could still boot, but my ide drive didnt even show up in disk utility. I used the jmicronata kext to replace the one im using now but it didnt seem to work :(
Ill try it again, just in case, but 3.25gb is enough for what i do anyway, i just have the 4gb for gaming in xp x64.
 
I installed it with KextHelper, so it should have any issues....

Even still never hurts to clear them manually then boot with the -f to force the re-building.
Om on a GA-P35-DS3L mobo with an sata drive and an ide drive. Osx is on the sata, so i could still boot, but my ide drive didnt even show up in disk utility. I used the jmicronata kext to replace the one im using now but it didnt seem to work :(
Ill try it again, just in case, but 3.25gb is enough for what i do anyway, i just have the 4gb for gaming in xp x64.

I have the DS3R for my spare machine I think the controller is set to IDE mode (shows up as hda to the Debian install on it indicating IDE anyways) you may want to check that, when I turn the machine on tomorrow I will check for sure which mode and post it.
 
Alright, I've successfully gotten my Hackintosh up and running, and everything seems to be a GO so far.

Here is my setup:

Intel Core 2 DUO 3.8GHz
8GB RAM (4 2GB modules)
ASUS P5K-V (motherboard)
(w/ built-in Realtek ALC883 audio)
SATA 1TB HDD, 500gb HDD (Windows Vista)
SATA optical drive
nVidia GT8800 512MB (Asus model EN8800GT)
Buffalo Wi-Fi PCI card (WLI2-PCI-G54S)

My method: I used a the BOOT-132 DVD swap method. Burn the loader to a CD, boot it up, swap the disc for a Leopard retail install, and install it. Biggest snag here was that I needed to find a boot loader with "drivers" for my motherboard. I ended up just using some P5K one that worked fine, even though I have a P5K-V. Search for BOOT-132 and your motherboard's code (like P5K).

Here are a few of the snags I ran into, from biggest to smallest:

1) HUGE ISSUE: My original IDE optical drive wouldn't allow me to use the BOOT-132 boot loader method. I really wanted this method because I can use my retail Leopard DVD and I can use Software Update. I *had* to buy a SATA drive to get it to work, I tried everything.

2) At first, I wasn't getting anything but basic video card support. I used the EFIStudio application from the Chameleon package to install the "drivers" for the card, and it came up with full support (I also clicked "enable" for the Quartz GL support in the OSX86Tools app).

3) I had to manually get my Airport working on the Buffalo card. The first time I did the install, after using Chameleon's installation and tools, it somehow just worked. Later, I had to follow the advice of another website to manually edit some files (changing the Buffalo card to be "en1" instead of anything else). That worked like a charm, perfect Airport so far.

4) My audio was the biggest fight. I had to install two kexts (the ALC883 one, then the HDAEnabler.kext). After that, I fought with it for a while before realizing that selecting "internal speakers" in the output settings in System Preferences did the trick. I dunno why, but I had to select that.

Also, here are the current "quirks" with my system that I've noticed:

1) I have a lot of trouble with hitting the eject button on my DVD player. I generally HAVE to use a built-in Mac OS X eject procedure (click the icon in the system bar, or drag the desktop icon to the Trash).

2) Once when I rebooted after installing some audio kext, my Airport was permanently set "off." I couldn't turn it on. A reboot fixed it. I always use the "-f" setting at the Darwin prompt when I reboot, so dunno if that is necessary. I'm a bit of a noob at this.

That's it! So far, everything else seems perfect. I'm running Software Update now, and I'll let you know how it goes in a follow-up post. If it works, this would seem to be the generally "best" Hackintosh method around, since it uses the retail DVD (and this is not only convenient for most of us who buy the software, but it promotes and encourages purchasing the real thing from Apple, which is very good).

P.S. I forgot to mention that I had to do the install twice. the first time I accidentally installed a wrong kext, and when I rebooted, I got a kernal panic (a screen that said I need to reboot the machine). Endless cycle of needing to reboot every restart, so instead of fighting it, I reinstalled fresh.

P.P.S. Installed and ran World of Warcraft VERY nicely. Even beats the FPS on my Windows Vista setup with an ATI Radeon HD 4850 1GB card. No, I don't like World of Warcraft, but I had some game time remaining so I tested it out.
 
1) I have a lot of trouble with hitting the eject button on my DVD player. I generally HAVE to use a built-in Mac OS X eject procedure (click the icon in the system bar, or drag the desktop icon to the Trash).
Hitting the eject button on your drive will only eject it if there is no disc in it. You cannot eject a disc with the button because real macs have slot load drives that have no eject buttons. I assume osx just doesnt know what to do when the dvd drive sends the eject command. I mapped eject to my F12 button so its easy to get to.

2) Once when I rebooted after installing some audio kext, my Airport was permanently set "off." I couldn't turn it on. A reboot fixed it. I always use the "-f" setting at the Darwin prompt when I reboot, so dunno if that is necessary. I'm a bit of a noob at this.
The -f makes the machine redo the kext cache, which isnt really a bad thing, but if you are having wifi issues it might be necessary. You can tweak a file so you dont have to type this each time.
Copy /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist to your desktop and open it in textedit. There will be a line that says "<key>kernel flags</key>"
Under that make a <string></string> line if there isnt one already and put "-f" between them so the final product looks like this in that section:

<key>kernel flags</key>
<string>-f</string>

Then every time you reboot it automatically runs -f for you.

You should try making sure you have the correct driver first. Google OSX86Tools and download it. Run the app and near the bottom there will be a button to let you download and install drivers. Run that and reboot. If that doesnt fix the problem you can edit the com.apple.boot.plist file.
 
I have the DS3R for my spare machine I think the controller is set to IDE mode (shows up as hda to the Debian install on it indicating IDE anyways) you may want to check that, when I turn the machine on tomorrow I will check for sure which mode and post it.

Had it set to AHCI apparently the Debian kernel is not compiled with the option for IDE as SCSI drives so it will show up as hda no matter the mode it is in.
 
Had it set to AHCI apparently the Debian kernel is not compiled with the option for IDE as SCSI drives so it will show up as hda no matter the mode it is in.

I am having a ton of issues since the 10.5.6 update, so im going to reinstall with the iPC disc and give it another go with the patched JMicron kext. I was poking around my bios and saw that my sata drive was set to legacy ide instead of native (or maybe it was the other way around, lol). Regardless, i changed it with plans to reinstall the jmicron thing again, but i got pissed and decided to reinstall.
Thanks for pointing me toward the patched kext, i would have never known about it otherwise!
 
Anyone with a Gigabyte DS3L have 4x Sata Drives and 2x IDE CD/DVD Drives hooked up and working? I decided to hook up all (4) of my drives booted into Vista x64 to reflash/edit GFX bios to get it to work properly in 10.5.6, which is when I realized my DVD Drives weren't recognized by vista.

Anyways, after that I just decided to remove the 2 drives and rebooted. It would have been nice to get all 4 sata drives in and working as well as IDE Dvd Drives, but they weren't neccessary enough for me to want to spend time and trouble shoot.

So if anyone has any has any prior knowledge of that issue or anything, help would be appreciated.
 
i read it wrong, ignore me. your ide drives work in osx?

I have an IDE HD and a SATA HD in my Hackintosh, and both work running Leopard and XP Professional. The DVDRW is SATA.

What is interesting is that my PC gives a higher Geekbench score with Leopard.
 
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