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The Mini is long gone as far as I'm concerned.

I dislike much of the direction Apple is taking MacOS and their hardware.

I'd rather spend money on flexible, capable systems that I can tailor and adjust over the years.

Even for HTPC purposes, might as well just get a Raspberry Pi or similar and call it a day.
 
The Mini is long gone as far as I'm concerned.

I dislike much of the direction Apple is taking MacOS and their hardware.

I'd rather spend money on flexible, capable systems that I can tailor and adjust over the years.

Even for HTPC purposes, might as well just get a Raspberry Pi or similar and call it a day.

Is there a Darwin project that will run on a Raspberry Pi? I expect that somewhere in the Apple Campus, there is a project running MacOS on ARM... maybe it will surface one day...
 
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Is there a Darwin project that will run on a Raspberry Pi? I expect that somewhere in the Apple Campus, there is a project running MacOS on ARM... maybe it will surface one day...

I don't know, but frankly I wouldn't want it even if it were offered.

Considering how bloated and laggy MacOS has become, it's the last thing I'd want to run on a Pi-like computer, especially for HTPC.
 
I don't know, but frankly I wouldn't want it even if it were offered.

Considering how bloated and laggy MacOS has become, it's the last thing I'd want to run on a Pi-like computer, especially for HTPC.

Let's say Apple comes out with a Mac Mini using an ARM processor at the same price points as today. Let's further stipulate that processor performance is similar to current iPad Pro.

If it only ran iOS, would you buy it? (Assumption is that whatever display you purchase would have to support touch, otherwise it would only be a mouse and keyboard input.)

If it ran macOS, would you buy it?
 
Let's say Apple comes out with a Mac Mini using an ARM processor at the same price points as today. Let's further stipulate that processor performance is similar to current iPad Pro.

If it only ran iOS, would you buy it? (Assumption is that whatever display you purchase would have to support touch, otherwise it would only be a mouse and keyboard input.)

If it ran macOS, would you buy it?

iOS -- not a remote chance. The last thing I want is a desktop computer with the operating system for a 4" iPod. Totally locked down, permanent updates (that often cause problems), no other OS can ever be used, restrictions galore, and a slow and cumbersome interface. Not to mention it would require iOS being able to handle external monitors, user accounts, mouse input, etc.

Even with MacOS, I just don't see a point anymore. The Mini is weak, expensive, and lacks any kind of versatility to be useful as a desktop to me (not to mention unforgivably out of date). Updated with an ARM processor, it will just be dismal performance and likely very limited ability (if any) to install any other OS on it. It doesn't fix anything.

What's the point?
 
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What would be the point of a desktop machine that runs iOS? That just doesn't make sense.
Similar to "what would be the point of a desktop machine that doesn't run Windows?" It is the applications, not the operating system, that drives things.
 
Similar to "what would be the point of a desktop machine that doesn't run Windows?" It is the applications, not the operating system, that drives things.

Why would I want to use the applications or operating system made for a touch-input-only device with a 5-10" screen... on a computer with multiple 24"+ monitors, a mouse, and keyboard?

Many iOS applications are trimmed-down ports of the desktop version with limited features, or an "app" of a website. I can't think of a single iOS app I would want on a desktop computer.
 
Things change. If IOS were to be ported to a "mini" desktop then it would not be the same IOS of today. If the apps you use today would run on it why would you care?
 
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Things change. If IOS were to be ported to a "mini" desktop then it would not be the same IOS of today. If the apps you use today would run on it why would you care?
Most of the "apps" I use, the majority of which I wrote, run from shell scripts. If the Mini shows up running anything less than macOS, I'm not buying one. Putting out a desktop computer with a toy OS like iOS (Microsoft BOB, anyone?) is DOA.
 
Things change. If IOS were to be ported to a "mini" desktop then it would not be the same IOS of today. If the apps you use today would run on it why would you care?

Because iOS would make the workflow unbearable.

Input blocking, no form of window management, extremely locked down and restricted OS...

And that's assuming it's made to support mouse, external monitors, USB devices, peripherals, etc...

Again, no point. No advantage but lots of disadvantage. There are reasons why macOS and iOS are so different.
 
Input blocking, no form of window management, extremely locked down and restricted OS...
Your points are being addressed. IOS is adding window management and macOS is getting more locked down and restricted.
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Most of the "apps" I use, the majority of which I wrote, run from shell scripts.
So one more requirement. IOS on a mini needs shell access.
 
Your points are being addressed. IOS is adding window management and macOS is getting more locked down and restricted.

It isn't being addressed. It's very dismal still, not that it's great in macOS.

How does macOS getting more locked down make iOS any more appealing as a desktop OS? If anything, it makes macOS less appealing.

Why would I want a touch-screen OS designed for tiny screens as a desktop OS? Especially one completely locked down with input-blocking delays and poor multi-tasking?

How long until anything like USB peripherals are even supported, if ever?
 
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