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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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I don't know, using iTunes always seemed like an odd way to install apps. I won't miss that, it's easy enough to manage apps directly on the phone. That's not what I want to use my desktop for anyway.
It was really useful during the early jailbreak scene...but yeah, pretty useless now.
For someone who reckons the new Mac Mini is not coming, you seem oddly disinclined to give this thread a rest…..
But you are welcome. It encompasses a broad range of wants, wishes and desires, expressed by a good few dreamers, cynics, critics, dilettantes, geeks who like to tinker and average Joe's who don't, among others….. all with an opinion, and you are entitled to yours. If you find my posts objectionable, feel free to ignore them, or report them if you feel strongly enough…..
I am still inclined to think that the new Mac Minis will almost certainly continue coming, albeit at increasingly infrequent intervals. New incarnations will continue to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary, current Mac Minis will continue to run the current MacOS and apps, even though the hardware may not be cutting edge……. MacOS / OS X (which is updated annually at present) is what makes a Mac, not the hardware.
MacOS and app updates have been free for several years now, almost certainly made possible by the profits generated by other Apple products.
The Mac Mini will almost certainly continue to be a general purpose gadget, available in a range of configurations, which is all the computer many folks need for several years, but not the special needs or desires of some. The latter will almost certainly continue to ranting, whinging, and telling the world what they feel Apple should do. They may enjoy the superior feeling that comes with that, but they would almost certainly find satisfaction elsewhere within the Mac range, or beyond…… or maybe not / never.
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@Micky Do - I have never come away from this forum feeling superior or inferior ... i have many times felt enlightened, surprised, confirmed and disappointed. In every forum the "bell curve" can be observed as the outliers and main-streamers; with outliers existing on both ends of the spectrum. We understand that opinion and POV's are just that unless someone here declares they actually work for Apple.
We understand you, we expect you and you're welcome!
We understand you, we expect you and you're welcome!
My recollection is that Micky Do was always very nice to everyone, until he was rather nastily attacked, by whom I can't remember. That went on for a while, and since then Micky has taken to using the dilletante, geek, etc. pejoratives in his posts. It's kind of understandable, but unfortunate in my opinion. With well over 10,000 posts, a lot of stuff has happened on this thread, and there is a lot more to come, almost certainly.
Apple employees are instructed not to go on forums and declare who they work for.
Its personal opinions only.
Mickey Do and I have gone back and forth several times. It’s all stemmed from his accepting status quo, and me(and many others) wanting more from Apple when it comes to the Mac Mini. How anyone can be OK with, and excuse, the deplorable state of the Mac Mini is beyond me, but there is Mickey Do.
It takes all kinds to make the world go round, we are obviously on opposite ends of the Mac Mini argument, but I’m sure we’d agree on 1000 others.
Nothing personal MD, but when it comes to this topic, I feel like I’m debating with my son when he was 3
Keep up the good fight MD, and honestly, there are no hard feelings from my part - even though it may seem that way at times.
It takes all kinds to make the world go round, we are obviously on opposite ends of the Mac Mini argument, but I’m sure we’d agree on 1000 others.
Nothing personal MD, but when it comes to this topic, I feel like I’m debating with my son when he was 3
Keep up the good fight MD, and honestly, there are no hard feelings from my part - even though it may seem that way at times.
ahh, Count Blah has taken a little "prick" instead of draining him dry this time - "I feel like I'm debating with my son". This is the source of his pain and retribution.
You can afford to swap jabs as there's really nothing happening one way or the other until the new Mac Mini almost certainly drops in 2018 - by which time the two of you might actually get around to agreeing on something.
I think I've overspent my efforts - the two of you balance the forum in equal measure ... I'm out.
You can afford to swap jabs as there's really nothing happening one way or the other until the new Mac Mini almost certainly drops in 2018 - by which time the two of you might actually get around to agreeing on something.
I think I've overspent my efforts - the two of you balance the forum in equal measure ... I'm out.
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I'm still seeing this scenario where Apple tosses the whole Mac line over the wall and releases an OS-agnostic Xcode IDE which allows iOS app development on Windows and Linux (could they just rewrite Xcode in Swift-4 and do this?). Looking at 3Q 2016 sales, Macs were around $5.6b of total income of around $44.5b. While not a tiny part of their income, it's small enough that a case could be made that they gain more in the long term if they cut the Mac line loose, use losses accrued therefrom to bring home some of the money they've hidden overseas and use that to do something wonderful (thin, portless, etc) in the mobile and content arenas. So, not only is the new mini not coming, the entire line is doomed.
It's long past time for this thread to die. There's no new Mac Mini coming... ever... and this is so far off in the weeds you can't even see the road from here.
Blasphemy - I cannot, for the life of me, conceive how one thinks the world should proceed without desktops. I thought you were going to suggest they open up MacOS so that it can run on Windows or Linux but instead it seems you're suggesting they abandon the whole OS. It would be courageous to abandon desktops and open up the OS - it would be foolish to abandon it altogether. The moment Apple abandons desktops or the OS my iPhone will be silenced.
Just hold on a little longer. We're almost there!
I have been sitting on this bench for awhile. Is Godot here yet?
The Apple Store employee (not that they know everything) sounded very pessimistic about the mac mini getting any kind of update anytime soon when I talked to them yesterday. For me, the ship already sailed a long time ago.
I shared this in another thread - I had an Apple store employee admit to me last year that almost everyone who buys the entry-level Mac Mini returns it because it's so slow and outdated.
You missed the first part of the quote there - “on this topic”
I agree, we can go into hibernation mode again for another long winter’s nap, concerning this topic.
See you in the spring!
MacOS already feels abandoned. It's slowly been getting worse and worse.
That said, Apple won't be opening up Xcode anytime soon. They're big on the mafia-like stranglehold they have over their markets.
"So you need a laptop to make iPhone apps, huh? *puffs cigar* 2.5 G's for a dual-core with 8GB of RAM... oh, and you'll need a mitt full of dongles!"
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It's amazing, isn't it.
I'm half surprised anyone is interested given the way Apple is going these days. They sell dated hardware at premium prices with laggy UIs. They make updates as forced/permanent as they can and introduce more bugs and delays while adding mostly useless features.
The amount of contempt they show for their own customer base is really something. But they get away with it because the average consumer just gets what the people around them have.
It's sad it's come to this, but when my Mac retires, that will likely be it for Apple for me until they start taking a direction I'd like to support. My machine has already mostly retired to Windows and Linux since hey each run much, much better on it.
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Hemisphereist.
Signed
Resident of southern hemisphere, coming out of hibernation mode again for another long hot summer.
My Apple Store finally removed the Mac mini in the last 2 days and no longer carries it in store, you have to order it now. One of the employees said it's likely done, it does not sell very well at all.
Good point. Enjoy your summer break, and we’ll reconvene after you summer break then.
You'd think there would be more discreet clues as to where desktop computing is headed ... by that I mean companies like Ernst & Young no longer deploy desktops - any that remain are replaced with docking stations once they fail or become obsolete. I should see laptop rigs (adapters that allow laptops to mount in racks) - ergonomic furniture that anticipates a permanent placement for a laptop - laptops that don't migrate off the table - interconnections like magsafe and so on.
I may have missed it but I'm not seeing that. From a technological perspective I would bow to the laptop scenario only if there was a single hi-capacity connection method for everything excluding power or a wireless standard that did the same - then and only then would my "all glass" laptop be the item of choice.
Yeah, I have this dream that Apple finally gets it and develops an all glass desktop cube that has no wires and seamlessly sends video and data to all my devices - dreamin" like its 1984!
I may have missed it but I'm not seeing that. From a technological perspective I would bow to the laptop scenario only if there was a single hi-capacity connection method for everything excluding power or a wireless standard that did the same - then and only then would my "all glass" laptop be the item of choice.
Yeah, I have this dream that Apple finally gets it and develops an all glass desktop cube that has no wires and seamlessly sends video and data to all my devices - dreamin" like its 1984!
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