Give me 8GB of ram, an SSD and the ability to output 4K and I'm happy.
Is that really too much to ask in late 2017? Come on!
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Come 2018 you'll be just like Arnold!
Because the new miniMacPro will almost certainly have arrived!
seem nice spec... important got hdmi
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All available with the 2014 Mac Mini, albeit 4K @ 24 Hz, and SSD an option with custom order. Almost certainly 4K @ 60 Hz on an update, in keeping with others in the current Mac line-up.
https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/
Enjoy your new computer because it ain't gonna happen! Not if they are just now sending out questionnaires to mini owners, not nearly enough time to asses the results, redesign, manufacture, etc. So really, it ain't gonna happen.
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The whole questionnaire thing in light of the proposed redesign of the MacPro just doesn't sound right ... if there were any questions as to redesign it would be towards the MacPro ... and when was the last time a questionnaire was issued. Do you really think Apple needs ideas about the Mini or ideas about where headless desktop computing needs to go ... think about it.. their Thunderbolt display, Time Capsule and other peripherals have bit the dust ... how much could they care about the Mini when they abandoned displays something they actually did right and augments the line-up.
No ... the questionnaire is just another one of those things that's bound to irk us with no clear direction ... my God, they really have to think about what to do with the MacPro - they don't have enough insight? - that's like GM not knowing how to redesign a car - they knew how to go from Power PC to Intel, right?
No ... the questionnaire is just another one of those things that's bound to irk us with no clear direction ... my God, they really have to think about what to do with the MacPro - they don't have enough insight? - that's like GM not knowing how to redesign a car - they knew how to go from Power PC to Intel, right?
Maybe next thing we here is: " we did a survey and the result is that hardly no-one was going to buy it."
A decade ago people bought Mini instead of windows-pc. Now they want a mac and choose expensive one. Because they have to, if they want a mac.
A decade ago people bought Mini instead of windows-pc. Now they want a mac and choose expensive one. Because they have to, if they want a mac.
To be clear, I think it is the dumbest idea I ever heard. I thought it was true because more than one here mentioned getting it. I mean really, they could just read this thread to get the info. So again, I was dumbfounded when this appeared to be happening. But when you get a bunch of bean counters going, this is precisely what happens
Three off the shelf versions of the Mac Mini and a range of options available on custom builds….. A good one can be had to suit various needs, if not the desires of some.
For those whose needs / desires are beyond what a Mac Mini can be pushed to, may find satisfaction with other offerings within the Mac line-up. If not, look at other hardware, operating systems and apps. Simple really.
I didn't get a Mac Mini because it was an object of desire.
I got one (the first computer I owned, back in 2005) because it suited my need for something easily occasionally portable, but I did not want a portable to tote daily from home to office to beach or cheeky cafe. I do a bit more with a computer now than a dozen years ago, but my basic requirements have not really changed. My second computer was a Mac Mini, and my third could well be…. though with a somewhat itinerant phase of my life coming up, a MacBook Air may be a better option.
I knew nothing of different operations systems and hardware at the time. On getting my first Mac Mini, OS X and the iLife suite was a revelation on ease of use and stability compared to what I had previously encountered in offices and internet cafes. Windows has improved since then, and there is Linux, and there is fancier hardware available. However, to me they all seem better suited to geeks who like to muck around with computers than an average Joe like myself, who just wants an appliance to do stuff with minimal hassle.
The new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming. There will almost certainly be a better one for the needs of many, though almost certainly not all.
The new Mac Mini will almost certainly be greeted with howls of dismay and hoots of derision from a contingent of MacRumors forum malcontents, among others, demanding satisfaction.
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Well, you almost made it without speaking of another group with derision.
....who's mucking about with their computer? You seem to know what an SSD is, a processor etc. Are you not the geek of which you speak? With apologies to Kurtz, the horror. It seems while they've grown, you haven't, because why else would you seem to be willfully resistant to acknowledging that computers and the tech world have greatly expanded since the last iteration of the Mac mini and the user experience, as a result, has degraded. I'm glad you have simple needs, and that is definitely what they are.
....who's mucking about with their computer? You seem to know what an SSD is, a processor etc. Are you not the geek of which you speak? With apologies to Kurtz, the horror. It seems while they've grown, you haven't, because why else would you seem to be willfully resistant to acknowledging that computers and the tech world have greatly expanded since the last iteration of the Mac mini and the user experience, as a result, has degraded. I'm glad you have simple needs, and that is definitely what they are.
Sorry Micky, not paying well over $1000 CDN for a computer that can't even manage 4K.
It's 2017. SSD isn't a luxury item that should require a $1000 investment. I can't even put in my own without ripping the entire thing apart. It's a joke, and you know it.
At the VERY least, they should do what they did with the MacBook Air and offer 8 GB of ram standard on the base model.
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Wasn't there a previous instance of Apple sending out surveys - and the new model was released in just another month or two? In other words, the survey fed into the ad campaign, not the hardware design.
Apple has had so many chances to update the 2014's Haswell CPU: They could have used the equivalent Broadwell chips. They could have used the GT3e Skylake chips. More recently, GT3e Kaby Lakes are an option. But, if they now relent and use Kaby Lake, why didn't they use Skylake?
The one hardware option that would fit an impending launch is the recently launched quad core Kaby Lake Refresh CPU coupled with a Polaris 12 GPU. (The GT2 graphics aren't good enough for Apple's product positioning. Intel's GT3e may cost more than a dGPU w/ RAM.)
Now that explanation fits ... I might believe that one because the external form-factor is more than likely an attribute that can be changed quickly to account for various configurations. Frankly, there are more than enough ideas what a modular Mac might look like and the revised Mini chassis might be the initial building block. Consolidating the Mini and the MacPro makes a lot of sense and provides a smooth pathway to upgrades and expandability. If they take the common sense route of the Mini and add that to the MacPro and share the power of the MacPro with the Mini Apple will have a winner!
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Come on Micky, you didn't get a Mac Mini since 2009. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-2017.2060446/#post-24872897
Really, that's fine and I respect the fact that your needs are so modest. But why do you insist on insulting everyone who needs (or just wants) something better? You're surprised that Apple products are "objects of desire"? How many billions does Apple spend trying to convice us to buy new products we don't really need? Give it a rest...
With regards to "objects of desire" therein lies the issue ... the Apple ecosystem is (was) the object of desire and any system designed holistically will suffice - problem is, Apple is the only platform that is extensible across a wide array of devices somewhat seamlessly - and that is a "system / platform" of desire for sure. Perhaps Micky doesn't own an iPhone - maybe his environment is limited to a box in which case he's got no requirements for continuity and mobility of functionality across an ecosystem.
His choice of words and emphasis simply highlights a general trend in this forum thread which is to repeat what has been repeated repeatedly and to justify a specific perspective with a general angst for those who differ. Purely entertainment - in the meantime - since we're all participating in concepts that may become legacy at any moment.There are those in the Apple forums who think the whole thread is filled with has-beens, stalwarts and losers. The moment the Mini hits or its replacement the process will begin yet again.
His choice of words and emphasis simply highlights a general trend in this forum thread which is to repeat what has been repeated repeatedly and to justify a specific perspective with a general angst for those who differ. Purely entertainment - in the meantime - since we're all participating in concepts that may become legacy at any moment.There are those in the Apple forums who think the whole thread is filled with has-beens, stalwarts and losers. The moment the Mini hits or its replacement the process will begin yet again.
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I personally replaced the Mac mini with a 2016 MacBook 12" m5. I think it performs way better than the Mac mini did and even looks crisper hooked to my monitor. And my answers in the survey from apple reflected my opinions.
Apple has never said they are updating or releasing a new Mac mini. They're exact words earlier this year were "The Mac mini remains part of our lineup right now".
3 years ago I would have said the Mac mini was going to be around but talking to Apple reps and people that work at the Apple Store, no one sells the Mac mini anymore. It sits there but no one is buying. I think MacBooks (rMB, MBA & MBP) outsell the iMac). The key about a laptop is you can use it as both a laptop and desktop.
I think the end all is how the iMac Pro does in sales. But it's a catch-22 because it can go either way and hurt the Mac mini & Mac Pro if it does well or fails. The beginning of the end was Apple getting out of the monitor business and just having the iMacs.
I have a friend who bought the 2014 Mac mini when I did also, he has also replaced his this week. We both put SSD's in the base model. But playing with newer machines, the Mac mini has become more of a starter Mac Machine for first-time users. It's very underpowered even compared to the m5, m7, new m3.
And also Apple would need to build a new logic board for the newer processors because the current Mac mini uses Haswell still. We know they can do it to fit in the same size case but with sales low, is it cost-effective to. At the end of the day, it's a business and the end-user has to go with what's best for the business even if they don't like it.
I think the Mac mini will stay for a while longer but like the 2012 MBP, will not see an update and will eventually after 5 years maybe just fade away. Apple has also started to put an emphasis on the work 'PRO' and we've seen that, it's a shift towards the Pro user. That also hurts some of the chances of updates.
Apple has never said they are updating or releasing a new Mac mini. They're exact words earlier this year were "The Mac mini remains part of our lineup right now".
3 years ago I would have said the Mac mini was going to be around but talking to Apple reps and people that work at the Apple Store, no one sells the Mac mini anymore. It sits there but no one is buying. I think MacBooks (rMB, MBA & MBP) outsell the iMac). The key about a laptop is you can use it as both a laptop and desktop.
I think the end all is how the iMac Pro does in sales. But it's a catch-22 because it can go either way and hurt the Mac mini & Mac Pro if it does well or fails. The beginning of the end was Apple getting out of the monitor business and just having the iMacs.
I have a friend who bought the 2014 Mac mini when I did also, he has also replaced his this week. We both put SSD's in the base model. But playing with newer machines, the Mac mini has become more of a starter Mac Machine for first-time users. It's very underpowered even compared to the m5, m7, new m3.
And also Apple would need to build a new logic board for the newer processors because the current Mac mini uses Haswell still. We know they can do it to fit in the same size case but with sales low, is it cost-effective to. At the end of the day, it's a business and the end-user has to go with what's best for the business even if they don't like it.
I think the Mac mini will stay for a while longer but like the 2012 MBP, will not see an update and will eventually after 5 years maybe just fade away. Apple has also started to put an emphasis on the work 'PRO' and we've seen that, it's a shift towards the Pro user. That also hurts some of the chances of updates.
Apple changed the paradigm for the "consumer" but not very much for the developer, composer, statistician and/or Pro-sumer. These folks want access, comfort, space, options, standards, stability, power and respect ... yes, respect! These folks make the food that others consume ... they deserve a place and stronghold.
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I think the "thing" that infuriates most is Apple swayed many away from the PC back in the day and I think there's a feeling that they have a responsibility to "keep" us here - certainly I don't expect to feel swayed towards a PC after all these years ... but the simple fact is I may if my needs eclipse the Apple genre.
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Well @Boyd01 we've flushed out Micky's perspective and clearly he's a happy man. Should Apple abandon the headless Macs he may rise to a subtle disappointment but frankly his disappointment will signal a catastrophic event horizon for many.
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Well @Boyd01 we've flushed out Micky's perspective and clearly he's a happy man. Should Apple abandon the headless Macs he may rise to a subtle disappointment but frankly his disappointment will signal a catastrophic event horizon for many.
I think the best chance for a new mac mini (almost certainly coming) lies with the release of the new Mac Pro and the new display that Apple has said it will create to replace the discontinued Thunderbolt display. It would make sense to release the new display at the same time the new computers without their own screens are released, and that will almost certainly include the new Mac Pro and the new Mac Mini. Releasing all three at the same time, three new products, makes sense. It is beyond almost certain that none of this stuff will be cheap. Once the amazing and magical new Mac Mini comes out, this thread will end. It would have ended in 2014 if Apple had not horrified most of The New Mac Mini is Almost Certainly Coming community with the retrograde mini of 2014.
Why would you want them to mesh their highest-end machine with their lowest-end machine?
The mini is supposed to be a budget, entry-level product. I have no interest in a base mini that costs $1,500.
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This is a sad thought, but if Apple released a "Mac Mini Classic" (a re-release of the 2012 mini with 8GB of ram) it would crash the Apple online store.
Im kicking myself that I didn't buy a refurb back in 2014. They were dirt cheap (I believe $400 CDN). It's 3 years later and the cheapest I can find a USED one for is $500. The 2012 mini APPRECIATED in value in the 5 years since it was released. So utterly ridiculous.
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