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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

I wonder what the chances of the Mac Mini being the first Apple CPU based one and being about the size of the current apple tv is.
 
DonCarlos said:
My friends. Can’t we just admit that it was all just another pathetic rumor. Mac Mini 2014 was the very last model, and those that have a 2012 have the last great mac mini model.

Sorry but it is the truth. The Mac Mini will never be in production again.
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You are absolutely 1000% right. Over. Dead and gone. They just do not care about the mini.
 
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dav3yb said:
I wonder what the chances of the Mac Mini being the first Apple CPU based one and being about the size of the current apple tv is.
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Why I do not understand why a pc needs to be smaller then the current size.
The nuc is also smaller then it needs to be
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yeah is uses a power brick

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I've just noticed that the launch date of the iPhone Xr is Friday, October 26th.

Given that Apple would probably like a few days for positive Apple press as first impressions reviews of the Xr come in prior to the results call on the following Thursday - November 1 - it does cast a slight bit of doubt over a proper event for Tuesday 30th.

Tim Cook is delivering a keynote speech on European Data Protection in Brussels on Wednesday October 24.

If Apple are hosting an event they generally give the press a week's notice however they revealed the new 6 core MacBook Pros in a press release in July so we could see press release updates on October 16th or 23rd. No need to give notice for a press release on the 16th, and Tim Cook may not want to be messing about with two major keynotes in two continents one day after the next on the 23rd and 24th.

Would you prefer a proper event reveal? Or would you rather Apple just get it over with?
 
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I won't believe Mac Mini line is dead until Apple officially discontinues it.

I might have entertained that possibility a while ago, but Ming Chi Kuo has said that a refreshed Mini is coming in the 2nd half of 2018, and he's got a pretty good track record for this sort of thing.
 
hvfsl said:
Well Intel has just released the details of the 9000 series cpus, so if Apple is ever going to announce a new Mini, you would expect it in the next few weeks. Personally I am still hoping for a 'mini' with the 9700K which has 8 cores. :)
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13401/intel-9th-gen-cpus-9900k-9700k-9600k
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Doubtful...that is a 95 Watt chip. The quad cores in 2011 and 2012 maxed out at 45 Watt (same as MBPro 2011/2012). So unless there is a major case redesign, the best a new mini will get is a 6-core like in the MBPro. I'd be happy with that though!

These new Intel 9-series should really find themselves in a new regular iMac. But only if they bump minimum iMac Pro to a 10 or 12 core and offer something even beefier at the top-end.
 
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Doubtful...that is a 95 Watt chip. The quad cores in 2011 and 2012 maxed out at 45 Watt (same as MBPro 2011/2012). So unless there is a major case redesign, the best a new mini will get is a 6-core like in the MBPro. I'd be happy with that though!

These new Intel 9-series should really find themselves in a new regular iMac. But only if they bump minimum iMac Pro to a 10 or 12 core and offer something even beefier at the top-end.
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The 10-core is the sweet spot with the W-Series Xeons wrt base/turbo clock speeds, so I don’t think they’d drop it. But really no pressing reason to drop the 8 either.

There is a new 28-core Xeon W announced but Apple would again need a custom SKU because it consumes well over the 140W TDP of the other iMac Pro processors—255W(!), it’s the W-3175X.

It’ll be interesting to see if Apple uses the 28W quads like the 13” MBP or the 45W hexa-cores like the 15”. I’m thinking quads though I’d prefer the hexa-cores. But would Apple settle for GT2 graphics and no dGPU?
 
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ActionableMango said:
I won't believe Mac Mini line is dead until Apple officially discontinues it.

I might have entertained that possibility a while ago, but Ming Chi Kuo has said that a refreshed Mini is coming in the 2nd half of 2018, and he's got a pretty good track record for this sort of thing.
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This may be the only glimmer of hope. Kuo even correctly predicted that the iPhone SE2 would be scrapped.

The problem is this; even if Apple releases a new Mini (and assuming it even runs macOS), isn’t it like begrudgingly throwing scraps at those who want it? They clearly have no desire to continue the product line, so any new model is almost like a stay of execution until this nonsense happens all over again in 2-4+ years. Apple clearly have utter contempt for the Mini (and Pro, for that matter), so why keep giving them your money?
 
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I agree, I only recently retired my mid-2010 Mini and I'd happily buy another. I got many years of use from that little guy and I'm as eager as the rest of you (or most of you!) for a flashy new model.
However, the silence is deafening. The pessimist in me agrees with the sentiment that the 2014 Mini may be the last Mini we ever see; however, I don't agree that Apple has "contempt" for the Mini or Pro, which is a rather silly assertion. It is just the obvious fact that Apple's priorities are not Macs, Minis or macOS any longer.
One possible reason Apple may let the Mini die away is that it is/was simply *too good* of a computer and media center *for most people*. Inexpensive and easily hooked up to the tv via HDMI. That's all most people want: a small device for playing Netflix and YouTube, play music and other light tasks. My living room is certainly ready for a new Mini to find it's home there for another 6-8 years. I hope Apple doesn't let me down.
 
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The_Interloper said:
The problem is this; even if Apple releases a new Mini (and assuming it even runs macOS), isn’t it like begrudgingly throwing scraps at those who want it? They clearly have no desire to continue the product line, so any new model is almost like a stay of execution until this nonsense happens all over again in 2-4+ years. Apple clearly have utter contempt for the Mini (and Pro, for that matter), so why keep giving them your money?
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I'd say wait and see what it is. If it's just a spec bump that they could have done all along, then I'd agree with "utter contempt" and "throwing scraps". That's exactly what that would be. But if there's a big redesign, then they care, and I personally wouldn't characterize it as begrudging at that point.

There was actually an article that illuminated some of why the Mac Mini was late. It wasn't conjecture, they had insider information. I've posted it here a couple of times but I don't think I could find it again now after all this time.

The last Mac Pro is even older than the last Mac Mini, but they admitted they messed up and we do know they care about it. They are doing a complete redesign.
 
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glazball said:
I don't agree that Apple has "contempt" for the Mini or Pro, which is a rather silly assertion.
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Definition of contempt
- lack of respect or reverence for something
Source: Merriam-Webster

Not a "silly assertion" at all. There's a "lack of respect" evidenced by:
1. No updates for 4 years (5 for Mac Pro);
2. Soldering of components;
3. Installing faceplates in the same, previously open chassis to prevent user upgrades of HDD;
4. Removing quad-core CPUs, thereby intentionally crippling performance;
5. No price drops (and rises in some regions) despite 4+ year old components.

Maybe the true contempt is for the users of these devices. Cook's Apple clearly wants to go as fully mass-market iOS as possible. He doesn't want Mini users at the low-end or Pro users at the high-end. Unfortunately for him, he can't get rid of them - yet - as there are still workflows dependent on Mac hardware and the fallout at present would be a PR nightmare.

Instead, we're seeing silent EOLing through abandonment; no updates, no roadmap, no timescales, no commitment. As a 20+ year Apple user, I'm appalled at the disgraceful state of the Mac.
 
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glazball said:
........ however, I don't agree that Apple has "contempt" for the Mini or Pro, which is a rather silly assertion. It is just the obvious fact that Apple's priorities are not Macs, Minis or macOS any longer.......
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There's absolutely no excuse to let your desktop computers go without updates for 4-5 years. It's beyond 'contempt' for the product line and its user base. Even cars get a full redesign from the ground up in that time.

Somehow, brands that are 1/1000 the size/wealth of Apple manage to keep larger ranges of computers up to date without any issue.
 
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ActionableMango said:
The last Mac Pro is even older than the last Mac Mini, but they admitted they messed up and we do know they care about it. They are doing a complete redesign.
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They only admitted it as they were being severely criticised for the sad state of Mac hardware at the time; it was a PR exercise, nothing more. That was in April 2017, 18 months ago, and still nothing. Still no Mac Pro in 2018, possibly nothing in 2019. When next - 2020? 2021? It's ridiculous.

Remember this pearl of reassurance from Tim Cook in December 2016?

"Some folks in the media have raised the question about whether we’re committed to desktops. If there’s any doubt about that with our teams, let me be very clear: we have great desktops in our roadmap. Nobody should worry about that."

So where are the "great desktops", Tim? (And no, not an iMac, 'Pro' or otherwise. That is a sealed and soldered AIO.) That 'roadmap' he speaks of is now almost two years old. How can we believe anything these people say anymore?
 
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The_Interloper said:
They only admitted it as they were being severely criticised for the sad state of Mac hardware at the time; it was a PR exercise, nothing more. That was in April 2017, 18 months ago, and still nothing. Still no Mac Pro in 2018, possibly nothing in 2019. When next - 2020? 2021? It's ridiculous.

Remember this pearl of reassurance from Tim Cook in December 2016?
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Oh, believe me, I remember and I'm aware. I'm deeply involved in the Mac Pro forum and used to own two of them. I wrote the CPU upgrade guide sticky.

But I've switched to a Windows PC because of the whole mess.
 
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The_Interloper said:
How can we believe anything these people say anymore?
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You can't and shouldn't.

Facts are louder than words. You claim the lineup is important but you're selling 5 year old hardware with no concrete plans for an update.

There is simply no excuse you can string together for why it can take 6+ years between updates on a Pro system.

Same with Mac Mini. We've been waiting 4+ years now. There is no excuse I'm willing to accept other than the fact you just don't care about it anymore.

If you haven't given up on Mac desktops and computers in general you're a sucker. I've already decided to "think different" and go back to Windows based machines.

I still lurk here with the faintest of hopes we will see a quality desktop computer from Apple, but I rate the odds at unlikely at best.

"What's a computer" - Apple's new slogan
 
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michael.richard1982 said:
If you haven't given up on Mac desktops and computers in general you're a sucker.
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Not quite yet I remind you... I don't need a new desktop - I want a new desktop. You'll have to wait a while longer before you can gloat and suggest you're on top of things it's not just the hardware but the ecosystem we treasure - your total solution is not more elegant but may suit your current needs.

We are generally weighing the entire system (backup, mobility and continuity) as a solution.
 
michael.richard1982 said:
If you haven't given up on Mac desktops and computers in general you're a sucker. I've already decided to "think different" and go back to Windows based machines.
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So why are you even posting in a Mac thread then if you've already 'moved on' to Windows? People who've remained loyal are those prefer the Apple experience of MacOS over other operating systems.

To be forthcoming, I too switched over to Windows because my mini just wasn't powerful enough anymore.. however I'm quite eager to switch back to MacOS, as soon as Apple releases a decent desktop that doesn't come with a built in monitor.
 
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