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I'd vote to let the thread run until 7 Dec 2018, five years from the first post, then "stick a fork in it." That should give time for initial teardown reviews and feedback. Since OP is still around I'd also let GabrieleR have the honor of last post.
I concur 1000%. And I speak as one who has read MOST of the posts in this thread. I would say 80-90%. Wowsa! All good things must end sometime.
 
The AppleInsider guy is conflating iGPU limitations with the limitations of the TB3 controllers. I would expect dual controllers at a minimum, if not one on each port. There's no reason not to if they didn't stuff in an dGPU.
I asked for confirmation of the single controller; Mike W @ AI said: “We’ve been told there’s only one controller. Alpine Ridge allows for it, but we will ultimately have to wait for the tear down.”
 
Told you so.
THIS.
[doublepost=1540975476][/doublepost]How much mini2018's motherboard will cost (after a degraded ssd)?
Anybody have their eyes on Apple's spare part channel?
How long it will usually take after the product launch, that Apple releases the spare part prices?

Anybody asked Apple yet, can you buy mini2018 with single 8/16GB dimm?
Does ddr4 work without matched pair?
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To be fair they need the money. They only have $243 billion in the bank.
If there was 2 choices:
1. Mini needs to be more expensive, so the board would accept it to live
2. Cheap mini wouldn't bring enough profits, so the board would axe it

Which one would you choose?
To my experience, you need to be greedy to get rich and usually the money in the bank does not take greediness away from your character.
 
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I think they are upset apple removed the IR sensor in the front. Originally for “front row” which has been abandoned for years, but still nice when using iTunes.

Ah, another reason to keep my 2012 Mini. Since Philips Hue Sync currently only works on Mac, and not Apple TV, it has plenty of life left as a duke box and for now it performs fabulously and on par with the new one for office duties, particularly in tandem with the Cinema Display with antireflective screen.
 
Ah, another reason to keep my 2012 Mini. Since Philips Hue Sync currently only works on Mac, and not Apple TV, it has plenty of life left as a duke box and for now it performs fabulously and on par with the new one for office duties, particularly in tandem with the Cinema Display with antireflective screen.

What remote do you use?
I haven't seen an Apple remote for over a decade.
 
So I only got my 2012 Mini for OS, and mostly for Garageband. It’s my main desktop and I don’t drive it too hard. When it dies I’ll get a used 2018 Mini. This seems like the cheapest way to get a modest OS machine, unless I’m missing something?
 
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Hey guys, I have a question. The new week I travel to USA and I've been thinking to buy a MacBook Pro or a new Mac mini, I don't decide yet. If I go for the mini, the most likely is that i will buy a I7 with 8GB and 128GB or the I5 with 8GB and 256GB, both with a eGPU, in the apple store can they have this model o i should order before?

Thanks
 
Is the Mac Mini, modestly specced and priced, with a decent amount of storage (HDD would be fine) for the average Joe or Jill still to come?
If you think of the performance spectrum for headless desktop as small/medium/large, in 2014 Apple shut down the "medium" by canning the quad-core mini, and in 2018 resurrected "medium" while shutting down "small." It may be that, like with the iPhones with the SE gone, there's just no longer any room for "small" in Apple world anymore.
 
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The Mac Mini Pro has certainly come to the joy of pros and wannabes.....

Is the Mac Mini, modestly specced and priced, with a decent amount of storage (HDD would be fine) for the average Joe or Jill still to come?

There'e plenty of life left in this thread.
Micky Do, iirc you were one of the few (only?) person besides me who thought that HDDs were an appropriate option in a mini.

I’m sure Apple values our business, but they’re not going to make a special PickMick SKU just for us. :D

The mini went from a $749 1.4GHz 15W dual-core 8GB/1TB Fusion (or $899 2.6GHz 28W dual-core 8GB/256GB SSD) with 16 GB max of soldered RAM, 2 Thunderbolt 2 ports and 4K30 video to a $799 3.6GHz 65W quad-core 8GB/128GB SSD (or $999 8GB/256GB SSD) with 64GB max of socketed RAM, 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports and 4K60/5K60 video, with an optional $100 10GbE port. Yeah it took four years but it didn’t get discontinued. In any mini fan’s book, that’s a win.

The $499 4GB/500GB, $599 8GB/500GB and $699 8GB/1TB HDD models are dead dead dead. $799 is the cheapest mini SKU Apple will sell. No HDD, no Fusion.

The old $599 8GB model is history. Save for an extra week/month/year for the extra $200 it takes to get the new 8GB entry level mini. Like the $200 bump from the $1,099 dual-core iMac 1080p to the $1,299 quad-core iMac 4K, that extra $200 buys a lot. It gets you a much better machine, and it’s worth it.
 
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My mini is the glorious i7 from 2011, still a beast. I can't believe that this thread still exists and that the OP was right! :)

Kudos
 
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Micky Do, iirc you were one of the few (only?) person besides me who thought that HDDs were an appropriate option in a mini.

I’m sure Apple values our business, but they’re not going to make a special PickMick SKU just for us. :D

The mini went from a $749 1.4GHz 15W dual-core 8GB/1TB Fusion (or $899 2.6GHz 28W dual-core 8GB/256GB SSD) with 16 GB max of soldered RAM, 2 Thunderbolt 2 ports and 4K30 video to a $799 3.6GHz 65W quad-core 8GB/128GB SSD (or $999 8GB/256GB SSD) with 64GB max of socketed RAM, 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports and 4K60/5K60 video, with an optional $100 10GbE port. Yeah it took four years but it didn’t get discontinued. In any mini fan’s book, that’s a win.

The $499 4GB/500GB, $599 8GB/500GB and $699 8GB/1TB HDD models are dead dead dead. $799 is the cheapest mini SKU Apple will sell. No HDD, no Fusion.

The old $599 8GB model is history. Save for an extra week/month/year for the extra $200 it takes to get the new 8GB entry level mini. Like the $200 bump from the $1,099 dual-core iMac 1080p to the $1,299 quad-core iMac 4K, that extra $200 buys a lot. It gets you a much better machine, and it’s worth it.
Better for what....?

As a teacher I use a computer to create documents (Pages) and keep records (Numbers). I use iTunes for audio for most of the courses I teach, and occasionally the DVD player. I have transferred a few tapes to digital using Garage Band and iTunes. Occasionally I use Keynote for presentations. One course I teach has everything on its own app, which I have downloaded. These days I need a computer at work most days, so recently acquired MacBook Air now takes care of most requirements. However, I still do prefer create documents on my Mac Mini with a full sized keyboard and a decent sized monitor. I got the Air to supplement the Mini, not to replace it.

Interestingly, Apple is continuing to offer the 2017 MacBook Air along side the 2018 model.

In my personal life I do a bit of photography and have provided shots of sports to the local press for several years. With the modest gear I have (Fujifilm X20) my 2009 Mac Mini and iPhoto were fine. Photos 1.0 less so, but with the MacBook Air I now have Photos 3.0, which is more than adequate, however with just a 128 GB SSD, storage is a shortcoming for archives...... Would be too with the cheapest 2018 Mac Mini..... and speccing extra memory would see the cost go up quickly. Cost effective storage is an issue.

An upgrade of camera gear would see bigger file sizes which might prove a challenge to the 2009 Mini, but on my budget (I earn about $US 1,000 a month) that is not going to happen any time soon.

Other that that I mostly use my Mac Mini for entertainment and news (I don't have a TV and prefer internet radio from Aotearoa or Blighty to local offerings) and communications (I am an expat).

Blazing performance may be of benefit for a videographer, a professional photographer, a researcher or accountant crunching a lot of numbers, or other professionals. There is not much in it for average folks, who have long been well served by modestly specced Mac Minis

Fast boot time....? Who cares for a machine that is mostly active or in sleep mode 24/7.

Snappy opening apps....? Most of the apps I use frequently are open most of the time..... probably the same for many average folks at home.

Fast search time for files..... Nice, but I am not frequently opening and closing files, and can wait if it does take a few more seconds. Time to get up and take stretch anyway.

The "much better 2018 Mac Mini" would provide little or no significant benefit over what I have now, beyond being able to upgrade to Mojave, thus enjoy support and updates for a few extra years. I could pay cash for one right now from my reserves, but seems poor value for money to me.

At this stage, when the original 120 GB HDD fails on my 2009 Mac Mini, repair (with a bigger HDD, say 512 GB) is more likely to be the call rather than replace with the 2018 Mac Mini Pro, which has way more performance than I need, or could even use.
 
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however with just a 128 GB SSD, storage is a shortcoming for archives...... Would be too with the cheapest 2018 Mac Mini..... and speccing extra memory would see the cost go up quickly. Cost effective storage is an issue.

At this stage, when the original 120 GB HDD fails on my 2009 Mac Mini, repair (with a bigger HDD, say 512 GB)

A few recommendations

One of these is good for storing media
https://www.wdc.com/products/personal-cloud-storage/my-cloud.html

One of these will give your mini more years
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct500mx500ssd1
 
Having been vocal and moderately hopeful that Apple would deliver at some point I am pleased to see the continuation of the Mini and not at all deterred from the talk of a soldered SSD or subpar (less competitive) graphics as this is essentially a reset that hopefully has many iterations and improvements - if Apple had hit all the marks high then perhaps that would spell the end.

I think this thread now has several areas to pontificate about in terms of the near-term and the Mini - in time the much herald MacPro may prove to be more of a dinosaur than the Mini. So basically ... the dream Mac Mini we're all most certainly hoping for may be standing just slightly off-stage.
 
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