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The Palm Pre's UI is peerless in its class.
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For that matter, does there need to be a physical button at the bottom?
Why not flatten that out, still have the square on there, but have it be smooth.
And gesturable of course.
So you don't want to be able to have apps multi-tasking then?
Or are you just against making the bottom where the home button is gesturable?
i am not agaisnt multitasking i dont see the need to be touching by the earpiece or by the home button
I could see the use in games where one might want touch controls that don't obscure any of a full-screen playing field.
Not gonna happen. Apple keeps things simple and intuitive so anyone can use their product. Theres nothing intuitive about manipulating a surface with nothing indicating what it does.
You mean like the multi-touch trackpad on any of the newer MacBooks?
People are used to touchpads on a laptop. Show a person an iphone and tell them to use it. I guarentee they wouldnt get the idea of sliding their fingers all over the black parts, theyd stick to where the visible screen is
But the app I was talking about doesn't use GPS. It takes your starting point and your destination, then estimates how long your trip will take based on the subway train schedule. GPS in general doesn't work inside NYC subways, since there isn't any signal!
Yes, seems easy enough to me, too. So why doesn't Apple just get on with it already?
I get ya. I'm sort of upset by the Pre. I would have loved to have the choice to pick between the two. I love my current iPhone though. But, everyone wants something they don't have, especially when it looks so good. The Pre's an unknown too. We have no idea how it's going to actually work. As for the new iPhone, we all know it will work very well. As for the iPhone's new functions, I feel like nothing is going to come out that we already don't know about (whether its autofocus, magnetometer, video, etc.) and I feel I can live without all those. They seem gimicky.
What? We've talked about this before on the forum. There are lots of non-intuitive gestures and actions in the iPhone. Unless you own one, you might not know that without reading the manual, it often takes being shown what to do.
Quite a few people couldn't figure out on their own how to change what Weather and Stocks are shown. Or what jiggling icons mean (because they didn't catch the first ... and only... explanation that pops up).
There's the inconsistency of where app settings are. Some in Settings, some hidden in the app itself.
If I had a dime for every time someone asked what the TTY icon was, I'd retire. They really need to put a warning on that one.
Worse, there are secret gestures. From tapping the top bar on Safari to scroll to top, to having to use TWO fingers to scroll certain web page areas (DIVs and TEXTAREAs). Some people never figure these out, especially the very frustrating latter one.
Don't even get me started on overloading the Home page button with multiple clicks, because they didn't want to add more dedicated or programmable buttons.
The iPhone has a large user manual, that gets bigger every release. Wonder why?
Ha. I was thinking of taking the subway/train to White Plains, or out to LI, so I didn't think of the underground sections as being destinations. Senior moment there.
Thanks!
Ok wow thanks; that is new to me. Intuitive to me would be making it work with one finger by just panning in the frame/text area/section when you touch within that area. Although, I learned while painfully replying from the iPhone that it pans with one finger while actually typing in the field.
It really is just a nightmare to post from this damn thing. On my first attempt the delete key got stuck as usual and deleted everything I was trying to quote. Trying to delete a bunch of text is a huge chore even without worrying about keyboard lag. Then of course when the post is long, you have to try and pan within a text field while the keyboard and the magnifier is up. I've had dental work done that was more pleasurable (nearly less time consuming too).
Two more things that look intruiging about the Pre: more screen jdjd - oops keyboard lag. I'm just going to leave it there or I'll be here 20 more minutes. You have more screen space while using the keyboard. And you know what, that lag spike demanded enough of my attention that I already forgot the second thing. Someone give me the novicane. I think I better restart this thing to fix this lag.
Dayum!!!
I usually just push one finger till the blow up bubble comes, and then scroll down and it scrolls, all be it jerky.
Had on idea about the two finger thing.
Woo Hoo!!
Wait.
The app you are talking about could implement this easy.
They could have just set it up to email you.
Then you set the email address to phone-number@txt.att.net
And you get an SMS notification.
I know this is a work around and not the most desirable way, but it would work.
This is how BeJive currently notifies you of IMs when you don't have the app running actively.
Battery Life and/or RAM and/or Processor I am guessing.Yes, seems easy enough to me, too. So why doesn't Apple just get on with it already?
At least, that is probably their story and they are sticking to it.
Subway is underground. No email / SMS / phone calls will reach any phone.
Battery Life and/or RAM and/or Processor I am guessing.
At least, that is probably their story and they are sticking to it.
I know... Oh, and another gripe of mine is how come the music player doesn't have any search function? The earlier ipods had one! With full keyboard input and big viewing surface available, we should be able to create Smart Playlists right on the iPhone itself!
is it just me, or does the UI look like its been stolen from the iPhone??
No, it's just you.
The UI trounces iPhone in every way.
Says you
Now go get you a Pre since you love it so much.
Then go make a call and look up your email on that studly multi-task device.
Oh wait, you can't.
Oh yea.
Duh.
That's what I get for trying to think outside the box at 12:30 AM after a long day in the sun.
LOL..
So yes, the apps would have to have access to the notifiers straight away.
I get it now.
And yes, that would be cool.
The thing is, Apple has patents on a lot of that touch-screen stuff. A lot of these patented interactions are very basic, and have been faithfully replicated in the Pre. Remember Amazon's one-click purchase?
Apple has no choice, it is obliged to defend the patents or face losing them. Therefore it will be obliged to challenge Palm - and let the courts decide.
So it's going to be interesting to see what happens next.
It's even conceivable that the courts might order Palm to withdraw the product, until the patent situation has been fully resolved.
C.
We are getting Shake to Shuffle in the new firmware. Wow.
The more I see of the Pre, the more the iPhone looks...I don't know...Inferior? Storage space aside, it would seem to me the Pre has tons going for it. It looks like a phone that is actually fun again, like the first time I used an iPhone when it came out. Sure the App Store the iPhone has and mobile iTunes store are features I love on my iPhone but in almost every other area the Pre has the iPhone beat.
I don't think I'm going to be leaving the iPhone any time soon (probably never). But I'll tell you this, the iPhone now has a serious competitor. I didn't think I'd be saying this about the Pre...I thought it would be all hype and fail like all the other "iPhone killers" but no way. The Pre is the real deal and Apple needs to realize this.
Bring on the new iPhone! iPhone 3.0 vs Pre -- The Ultimate Showdown
Apple Patent 2,930,2x2,543:
A method for use in conjunction with a handheld computing device with a touch screen display allowing two or more fingers to make contact with the device. Applying two or more finger contacts to the device prevents the device from falling. The two or more points of finger contact correspond to a solid device within a three-dimensional space in which gravity would otherwise overcome the device.
That's quite funny.
How about Palm Patent 314159265358979323
"A method for the development of mobile computing devices with touch screens, whereby development personal are relocated from the offices of the leading mobile computing device, to a the offices of a rival manufacturer, thereby enabling full and free movement of innovational momentum and therein facilitating reasonable and satisfactory competition"
Seriously, Apple bought Fingerworks to acquire their patents, and has gone had patents granted for a bunch of other multi-touch stuff. The G1, despite having a capacitive screen, had pinch and other gestures removed in order to comply with what Apple wanted.
Palm, on the other hand, seems to be taking a more confrontational route. Pretty sure there'll be some kind of fight.
We all have a ringside seat.
C.