Indeed, you're right.Just thought I would correct that for you
Still, the point remains they've got a lot of Premier League experience in their ranks.
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Still, the point remains they've got a lot of Premier League experience in their ranks.
Indeed, you're right.
Still, the point remains they've got a lot of Premier League experience in their ranks.
Even though it's almost a completely new team from the side relegated from the Premier.
It really hurts me to say it, but they have the best squad in the Championship this season
With college football just ending and the NFL playoffs going on, how can you guys possibly think about soccer? Soccer!???
::ducks::
as an american i watch both...but prefer to call one football and the other american football.
i dont like the "s" word either.
i coach and play as well and tell my kids this is "football". usually by the end of the second or third week of the season both kids and parents are doing the same.
as for american football, the oakland raiders are my fave team and haven't given me much to watch.
NCAA - the vanderbilt commodores.
we're getting there...and a plethora of peripheral teams to boot in both.
Maybe so, but there's still a fair bit of Premier League experience in there. Of the starting line up last night, by my reckoning more than half of them have played Premier League football in the past few seasons, albeit for clubs other than West Brom. Many of the others have played at a high level in other countries prior to signing for Albion.Even though it's almost a completely new team from the side relegated from the Premier.
It's a very talented squad they've assembled, but so it should be too with the money they've received in parachute payments and a couple of seasons in the Premier LeagueIt really hurts me to say it, but they have the best squad in the Championship this season
Am I right in remembering that you're a Wolves fan, OllyW? Do you reckon promotion's a realistic aim this season for your boys?
Maybe so, but there's still a fair bit of Premier League experience in there. Of the starting line up last night, by my reckoning more than half of them have played Premier League football in the past few seasons, albeit for clubs other than West Brom. Many of the others have played at a high level in other countries prior to signing for Albion.
It's a very talented squad they've assembled, but so it should be too with the money they've received in parachute payments and a couple of seasons in the Premier League
Am I right in remembering that you're a Wolves fan, OllyW? Do you reckon promotion's a realistic aim this season for your boys?
As we are now closer to relegation than automatic promotion, the play-offs look to be our only real hope and it's going to need a massive improvement for that to happen. Also, our record in play-off matches is pretty crap.
The rumours of the recently unemployed local lad, who just happens to have been a boyhood Wolves fan, being our next manager are already circulating
com permisso..errr..excuse me for butting in...
1 West Brom 27 15 5 7 59 32 9 3 1 34 11 6 2 6 25 21 27 50
2 Bristol City 27 13 9 5 35 32 8 4 2 21 14 5 5 3 14 18 3 48
3 Watford 27 14 5 8 44 35 5 3 5 18 20 9 2 3 26 15 9 47
4 Stoke 27 11 11 5 43 34 6 4 3 19 16 5 7 2 24 18 9 44
5 Charlton 27 12 7 8 40 32 6 3 5 23 18 6 4 3 17 14 8 43
6 Crystal Palace 27 10 11 6 34 27 4 6 3 17 18 6 5 3 17 9 7 41
7 Ipswich 27 11 7 9 44 36 11 3 0 34 8 0 4 9 10 28 8 40
8 Cardiff 27 10 9 8 34 32 6 3 5 17 15 4 6 3 17 17 2 39
9 Plymouth 27 10 8 9 35 30 5 6 2 19 12 5 2 7 16 18 5 38
10 Hull 27 10 8 9 33 32 7 4 3 24 14 3 4 6 9 18 1 38
11 Burnley 27 9 10 8 34 35 3 6 5 16 19 6 4 3 18 16 -1 37
12 Wolverhampton 27 9 10 8 24 26 7 3 4 15 12 2 7 4 9 14 -2 37
13 Southampton 27 10 6 11 36 44 6 3 5 17 17 4 3 6 19 27 -8 36
14 Sheff Utd 27 9 8 10 31 31 5 5 4 18 17 4 3 6 13 14 0 35
15 Barnsley 27 8 10 9 34 39 7 5 2 24 19 1 5 7 10 20 -5 34
16 Blackpool 27 8 9 10 35 35 5 5 3 20 14 3 4 7 15 21 0 33
17 Coventry 26 9 5 12 29 42 4 4 5 12 20 5 1 7 17 22 -13 32
18 Norwich 27 8 7 12 27 35 5 4 4 15 15 3 3 8 12 20 -8 31
19 Leicester 27 6 12 9 27 27 4 5 5 15 11 2 7 4 12 16 0 30
20 QPR 27 7 9 11 31 40 4 4 5 12 15 3 5 6 19 25 -9 30
21 Sheff Wed 26 8 4 14 28 34 5 0 7 14 15 3 4 7 14 19 -6 28
22 Preston 27 7 6 14 26 33 5 4 5 14 11 2 2 9 12 22 -7 27
23 *Sc u n thorpe 27 6 9 12 28 41 3 5 5 18 20 3 4 7 10 21 -13 27
24 Colchester27 5 11 11 39 46 2 6 5 20 23 3 5 6 19 23 -7 26
i think OllyW's short answer is going to be "no"..but anything can happen.
wednesday is dancing along the edge right now...
also note that *Sc u n thorpe had to be spaced out because of the "censor" on the borad here... this is how it origianlly appeared: S****horpe
Maybe so, but there's still a fair bit of Premier League experience in there. Of the starting line up last night, by my reckoning more than half of them have played Premier League football in the past few seasons, albeit for clubs other than West Brom. Many of the others have played at a high level in other countries prior to signing for Albion.
It's a very talented squad they've assembled, but so it should be too with the money they've received in parachute payments and a couple of seasons in the Premier League
Am I right in remembering that you're a Wolves fan, OllyW? Do you reckon promotion's a realistic aim this season for your boys?
1 West Brom 27 15 5 7 59 32 9 3 1 34 11 6 2 6 25 21 27 50
2 Bristol City 27 13 9 5 35 32 8 4 2 21 14 5 5 3 14 18 3 48
3 Watford 27 14 5 8 44 35 5 3 5 18 20 9 2 3 26 15 9 47
4 Stoke 27 11 11 5 43 34 6 4 3 19 16 5 7 2 24 18 9 44
5 Charlton 27 12 7 8 40 32 6 3 5 23 18 6 4 3 17 14 8 43
6 Crystal Palace 27 10 11 6 34 27 4 6 3 17 18 6 5 3 17 9 7 41
7 Ipswich 27 11 7 9 44 36 11 3 0 34 8 0 4 9 10 28 8 40
8 Cardiff 27 10 9 8 34 32 6 3 5 17 15 4 6 3 17 17 2 39
9 Plymouth 27 10 8 9 35 30 5 6 2 19 12 5 2 7 16 18 5 38
10 Hull 27 10 8 9 33 32 7 4 3 24 14 3 4 6 9 18 1 38
11 Burnley 27 9 10 8 34 35 3 6 5 16 19 6 4 3 18 16 -1 37
12 Wolverhampton 27 9 10 8 24 26 7 3 4 15 12 2 7 4 9 14 -2 37
13 Southampton 27 10 6 11 36 44 6 3 5 17 17 4 3 6 19 27 -8 36
14 Sheff Utd 27 9 8 10 31 31 5 5 4 18 17 4 3 6 13 14 0 35
15 Barnsley 27 8 10 9 34 39 7 5 2 24 19 1 5 7 10 20 -5 34
16 Blackpool 27 8 9 10 35 35 5 5 3 20 14 3 4 7 15 21 0 33
17 Coventry 26 9 5 12 29 42 4 4 5 12 20 5 1 7 17 22 -13 32
18 Norwich 27 8 7 12 27 35 5 4 4 15 15 3 3 8 12 20 -8 31
19 Leicester 27 6 12 9 27 27 4 5 5 15 11 2 7 4 12 16 0 30
20 QPR 27 7 9 11 31 40 4 4 5 12 15 3 5 6 19 25 -9 30
21 Sheff Wed 26 8 4 14 28 34 5 0 7 14 15 3 4 7 14 19 -6 28
22 Preston 27 7 6 14 26 33 5 4 5 14 11 2 2 9 12 22 -7 27
23 *Sc u n thorpe 27 6 9 12 28 41 3 5 5 18 20 3 4 7 10 21 -13 27
24 Colchester27 5 11 11 39 46 2 6 5 20 23 3 5 6 19 23 -7 26
i think OllyW's short answer is going to be "no"..but anything can happen.
wednesday is dancing along the edge right now...
also note that *Sc u n thorpe had to be spaced out because of the "censor" on the borad here... this is how it origianlly appeared: S****horpe
I thought Terry Dolan was from Bradford?The rumours of the recently unemployed local lad, who just happens to have been a boyhood Wolves fan, being our next manager are already circulating
As we are now closer to relegation than automatic promotion, the play-offs look to be our only real hope and it's going to need a massive improvement for that to happen. Also, our record in play-off matches is pretty crap.
The rumours of the recently unemployed local lad, who just happens to have been a boyhood Wolves fan, being our next manager are already circulating
Thought Jack had sold the club for a tenner and the bloke who bought it was going to invest £30million in them. What happened to that?
the reason why Big Sam was sacked and the fans wanted him out had nothing to do with the league position, or that they were not in the top six. The only people who think that are ignorant.
yes they are not a big club and they are a joke.
The only people who think that newcastle fans are upset because they have not won a trophy are the moronic outsiders who keep saying "they have won nothing for 50 years, its an injustice, blah, blah".
Do you really think that newcastle fans sit around saying that we should win something or be top because "its our right"? or are you just stupid?
Ashley was clearly influenced by growing dissatisfaction from some sections of the support over the way the team was playing and recent poor results, but the fact that Allardyce was Freddy Shepherd's appointment was a key factor, the new owner obviously wants his own man at the helm.
I still maintain though that Ashley won't find it easy to attract a high-calibre manager for the job, and that Allardyce represented a fantastic opportunity to change things for the better at Newcastle.
If true that was some very bad reasoning, and it will have consequences. Nobody wants the job now.
some sections - 99% getting close to mob rules at times, unfortunately.
the way they were playing - massive understatement except arsenal & chelsea games.
new owner obviously wants his own man - very true, has admitted that he should have done it straight away.
When Sam was touted for the england(!!) & newcastle job he said that the bolton style of football was only to do with his resources and could/would change style accordingly - he lied as he cant even with good players.
The players were played out of position from where they have played all their careers, and clearly this did not work, to all but one.
He spent good money on crap (& Barton!) and wanted to spend more, which there is, but hes gone, ha.
The key factor is his unbelievable arrogance and how deluded he is, he never took any responsibility, etc, to many examples to list. The final straw was the stoke cup game where they were lucky to get off with a replay and he was sarcastically applauded at the end of the game (he thought it was for real), in his post match interview he said that newcastle were the better team and he was pleased of the performance. The owner & chairman watched this in the stadium and were shaking their heads and so shocked they shouted at the monitor in view of others "what game were you watching!" - P45.
From what I have heard Redknapp had pitched for the job before Sam was sacked and has now had his wages doubled at pompey after what has happened!!! - allegedly, but the regional press have all but reported this!
"fantastic opportunity" what, are you a scumderland fan? Bolton fans werent upset to see him go.
by the way from what I have seen the Tigers will make the play offs.
Well, I'm just going with what the man himself is reported to have said. On his decision to sack Allardyce...
"I had to act, and I did what I should have done in the first place," he told the News of the World.
"I must admit that when I bought this club, my instinct was to bring in my own team to run it straight away, including a new manager," he [Ashley] said.
"That's no reflection on Sam, that's just the way I have always done things."
So there you go...
dont you think that could be a diplomatic quote!
quite a few newcastle fans seriosly think José Mourinho will be the next manager - embarrassingly deluded.
Thanks, but there's a long way to go yet...
That's one thing that concerns me about Ashley, I think he's too close to the supporters. I think it's vitally important chairmen and owners building good relationships with the fans and know their feelings on club matters, but to the extent where he watches the game in the terraces with the supporters wearing his replica shirt? It's too much, and he's putting himself in a position where he can be swayed by the mob mentality you mention. To be fair, he's realised that he shouldn't be in that position and says that he's going to focus more on the boardroom in the future, but still...
Heh, no. I'm not a fan of Allardyce either, but I recognise that he has a proven record of success at a number of clubs, and has proved on a number of occasions that he's more than capable of turning a team's fortunes around if he's given the chance. Could he have done the same at Newcastle? Maybe, maybe not it's all opinion now, we'll never know for certain. I doubt he'll be out of work for too long, though.
Mind, no argument about that nasty little piece of work Barton his signing was a massive mistake.
a quote from Sir Bobby Robson, better qualified than me:
Besides the style of football which was alien to a lot of Newcastle fans, Sam's big downfall was his buying record. No manager gets it right all the time but Sam signed nine players and only two Abdoulaye Faye and Habib Beye could be considered successes. That's not a great percentage. Jose Mourinho told me last season that Geremi's legs had effectively gone. "Mister, he plays like a 40-year-old. He can not run any more. He will not play for me in important matches again," was Jose's typically forthright response.
Naturally, I was alarmed to read that Newcastle wanted to sign Geremi. I passed on my information to someone at the club (this was before Mike Ashley took over) but Geremi still ended up signing. In fact, Sam made him captain.
"Mind, no argument about that nasty little piece of work Barton his signing was a massive mistake."
what makes it worse is that Scot Parker was forced out of the club by Sam to make way for him.
Besides the style of football which was alien to a lot of Newcastle fans, Sam's big downfall was his buying record. No manager gets it right all the time but Sam signed nine players and only two Abdoulaye Faye and Habib Beye could be considered successes. That's not a great percentage. Jose Mourinho told me last season that Geremi's legs had effectively gone. "Mister, he plays like a 40-year-old. He can not run any more. He will not play for me in important matches again," was Jose's typically forthright response.
Naturally, I was alarmed to read that Newcastle wanted to sign Geremi. I passed on my information to someone at the club (this was before Mike Ashley took over) but Geremi still ended up signing. In fact, Sam made him captain.
"Mind, no argument about that nasty little piece of work Barton his signing was a massive mistake."
what makes it worse is that Scot Parker was forced out of the club by Sam to make way for him.
because he cant play there anymore, not since he broke his leg at ManU. He's not very good in midfield either, its in his contract that he gets to start every game if he is fit, or not suspended great signing eh!
That's the STOOPEDEST clause ever. Every person involved in that contract should be sacked and refered for mental evaluation.
Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you, just expressing bemusement at Ashley's mental process.
There's no doubt that Big Sam made some questionable signings and the team's form did not show improvent. He may have never changed things for the better. But did he really get a fair chance to turn the club around? I'm not so sure.
EDIT I see that Harry Redknapp, having refused the Newcastle job, is trying to throw Alan Shearer under the bus:
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