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Jaffa Cake said:
We're also the only football team in England whose name consists entirely of letters you can't colour in – in either upper or lower case – so we can at least console ourselves with that fact. :D

Who the hell has the time to do that kind of research? Someone has too much time on their hands...
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Well, I suppose some people get a little bored over the summer waiting for the season to start. :D

Well, I guess if you don't still have a team playing that you can root for, you have to do something....

I keed, I keed, I wanted the Lions to win as well :( .
 
Jaffa Cake said:
It was amazing enough getting promoted from Division Three a couple of seasons ago – when you're a supporter of a 'lower league' club you take any success you can. :eek:

We're also the only football team in England whose name consists entirely of letters you can't colour in – in either upper or lower case – so we can at least console ourselves with that fact. :D

What do you mean can't colour in?
 
BakedBeans said:
What do you mean can't colour in?
As in letters that have 'enclosed' parts – for example, you can colour in the lower case e,p and s' or upper case R, P and O's in Liverpool. 'Hull City' has no such letters. For example...

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I don't know who noticed this, but like gauchogolfer says he clearly had too much time on his hands. :D
 
BakedBeans said:
Are there any decent young prospects that look like they could grace the premiership any time soon down there in the leagues of hell... i mean lower leagues ;)
Probably the best place to look for the cream of non-Premiership British talent is here. :D ;)

Elsewhere... Leyton Orient's Gabriel Zakuani is apparently attracting the attention of a couple of Premiership clubs. He's only 19/20 years old, but has made over 100 first team appearances for Orient and is a Congolese international. Preston North End's David Nugent is another player who I think would do well in the top flight, and I'm looking forward to seeing Phil Jagielka play Premiership football with newly promoted Sheffield United. Leon Cort has just moved from Hull to Crystal Palace – if they get promotion this season it'll be interesting to see how he'll do up with the big boys. A domineering central defender who also offers a big threat in attack from corners and set pieces. I was sorry to see him go but I hope he does well. Lee Trundle is another quality 'lower league' player who every so often gets linked with a top flight side – it looks like he's happy at Swansea though.

And dare I say that Hull City's young 'keeper Boaz Myhill is tipped as a potential future England international. He's already turned down the chance to play for the Welsh national side, I fear though he won't get a full England call-up while he's playing with us. Simply for the reason that he plays for us. :( In any case, Arsenal and a couple of other Premiership clubs were apparently sniffing around him last season.

And don't forget Liverpool's promising youngster Paul Anderson, who's tipped to have a bright future – don't forget either which club you acquired him from. ;)
 
Jaffa Cake said:
I've just seen on the BBC that Sol Campbell has left Arsenal to 'seek new challenges'. Blimey...

I have to say, losing Sol, Bergkamp and Pires (three people that made them so successful a few years ago) is a big blow in terms of quality and experience. I don't fancy Arsenal doing much in the premiership this season.

Man Utd look to be losing Ronaldo and possibly RvN also, which weakens them significantly too.

Both Chelsea and Liverpool have strengthened - Chelsea have bought a couple of very big names. Liverpool have another couple of players to bring in yet.

Will be a good year I think
 
BakedBeans said:
But who do you think the top 4 will be?
As you say, transfer dealings will make a big impact so I'll reassess once those have been made, but as it stands I'll go with Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham, in that order. I'll agree that Arsenal have been weakened with some of the losses to their squad – they've got some promising youngsters coming through but I think making the top four will just be a little too much for them this season. At least they've managed to retain the services of Henry.

Meanwhile, in the Championship it's almost a given that Sunderland will win the title with a record number of points only to get immediately relegated from the top flight the following season... :D
 
Jaffa Cake said:
As you say, transfer dealings will make a big impact so I'll reassess once those have been made, but as it stands I'll go with Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham, in that order. I'll agree that Arsenal have been weakened with some of the losses to their squad – they've got some promising youngsters coming through but I think making the top four will just be a little too much for them this season. At least they've managed to retain the services of Henry.

Just imagine if he left them!

Meanwhile, in the Championship it's almost a given that Sunderland will win the title with a record number of points only to get immediately relegated from the top flight the following season... :D

:D
 
Jaffa Cake said:
As you say, transfer dealings will make a big impact so I'll reassess once those have been made, but as it stands I'll go with Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham, in that order. I'll agree that Arsenal have been weakened with some of the losses to their squad – they've got some promising youngsters coming through but I think making the top four will just be a little too much for them this season. At least they've managed to retain the services of Henry.

I'll hold you to that. :p There is no WAY we will let Tottenham finish above us. Preposterous. :D

New Pics of Emirates. But a few days old.. the webcam shows us that all the white seat covers have come off...

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XIII said:
I'll hold you to that. :p There is no WAY we will let Tottenham finish above us. Preposterous. :D
I thought that might get your attention! ;)

A lot will depend on who you can bring in to replace them. Losing three key players like that would hurt any teams chances – hopefully Wenger will be able to find players of sufficient quality and be able to get them settled into the team quickly. I think it's going to be a watershed season for the Gunners, though.

The stadium's looking very swish, by the way. :)
 
I've just been watching Liverpool v Nottingham forest back when we didnt have funny names for the leagues, it is really strange to see just how much football has changed. No diving or gamesmanship is the big one.

I really am looking forward to this years league, I think it is a two way race between Liverpool and Chelsea. I think Liverpool can snatch it if we get a quality right winger (Alves) and another striker (Kuyt) to add to our quality signings already. As I mentioned earlier Man Utd and Arsenal have fallen from the top in spectacular style and are both behind Liverpool and Chelsea. Chelsea are a good shout for the win because of the players they have bought and keep buying - although, people will become and have become (gallas, drogba, crespo) unsettled due to the time on the bench.

Come on the red men... We have lifted just about everything else the last 5/6 years... we need the premiership to add to it.
 
BakedBeans said:
I've just been watching Liverpool v Nottingham forest back when we didnt have funny names for the leagues, it is really strange to see just how much football has changed. No diving or gamesmanship is the big one.
How long ago was that match from exactly? Divisions 1,2,3 and 4 – they were indeed simpler and magical times. :p

As a neutral, I'm hoping it just doesn't end up a two horse race that's over with a month or two left to play – the more teams that are in the mix until the end the better. Liverpool are slowly building themselves up into contenders and Tottenham are getting stronger, while Arsenal and Manchester United both appear to be on the wane. It looks like it could be an interesting season ahead...

In other news, my season ticket arrived in the post yesterday and I'm well excited. :D
 
Jaffa Cake said:
How long ago was that match from exactly? Divisions 1,2,3 and 4 – they were indeed simpler and magical times. :p

As a neutral, I'm hoping it just doesn't end up a two horse race that's over with a month or two left to play – the more teams that are in the mix until the end the better. Liverpool are slowly building themselves up into contenders and Tottenham are getting stronger, while Arsenal and Manchester United both appear to be on the wane. It looks like it could be an interesting season ahead...

In other news, my season ticket arrived in the post yesterday and I'm well excited. :D

1988 :)

Not too long ago for me to remember, we beat them 5-0 in a simply stunning display of footy.

The building has nearly finished. we will be going for our 11th win on the trot when we kick the prem season of against sheff utd.

One thing liverpool definately needed was more pace and pace on the ball. Gonzalez, bellamy and (hopefully) alves are all amazingly fast.. so i cant wait..
 
Jaffa Cake said:
...while Arsenal and Manchester United both appear to be on the wane. It looks like it could be an interesting season ahead...

It's funny, because Arsenal supporters are in general very optimistic about our season ahead, and we don't see ourselves as on anything like the wane.. :) It seems youngsters are just getting better (ones to watch next season: Fabregas, Eboue, Robin Van Persie), we have kept the best striker in the world, and we have a new stadium to lift our spirits and hopes.
 
XIII said:
It's funny, because Arsenal supporters are in general very optimistic about our season ahead, and we don't see ourselves as on anything like the wane.. :) It seems youngsters are just getting better (ones to watch next season: Fabregas, Eboue, Robin Van Persie), we have kept the best striker in the world, and we have a new stadium to lift our spirits and hopes.

The thing is, other people see just how good you were when you last won the premier league.... since then you have lost and inspirational captain without replacement, you scraped to 4th with a horrific points tally and have now lost Campbell, Pires and Bergkamp. I see them as not only a weaker team than when they went on the 49 game run, but a weaker team than when they lost the champions league final and united can't even be compared to the 99' team (when, as much as I hate them, they were clearly the worlds best club side). Liverpool are a much much better side than when we won it however.

Farbregas and eboue are two exciting prospects but without experience to back them up, it might be a rocky ride. You have ONE OF the best strikers in the world (it would be naive to discount players like eto, shevchenko and alike) but then again, you had him last season too and for all his genius infront of goal you still finished with a poor tally.

They could always surprise and do really well, but I don't think they will be top three. I do think they will be top four though.

For me, arsenal need quite a few signings to compete. I think it is fair to say that Arsenal do have a bright future (well, actually it is more of a case that it would show poor knowledge not to mention it) They have a new stadium, lots of potentially good players and a windfall for selling naming rights, that said - I think it is too early... they need an experienced midfield enforcer to complement febregas, most of Europes top sides have that player (Chelsea have Essien and Makalele to complement lampard (or ballack...ffs moneybags), Liverpool have Sissoko and Gerrard to complement Alonso, Barca have Xavi and Senna complementing Deco, AC Milan have Emerson complimenting pirlo etc etc). They also need an experienced CB now that Sol Campbell has gone.


Manchester united are distinctly lacking in the midfield department (and after their dream midfield of Beckham - Keane - Scholes - Giggs that is saying something) but I full expect Ferguson to adress this in this transfer window. Their strength is upfront, Rooney, RvN and Saha is a quality strike force, us Scousers can only dream of it.

Chelsea....... The less said the better I think. They have lots of good players in every position. they have spend 30m in transfer fees on two players and 30m each in wages - liverpool have spend a net amount of 3 million. Not an ev en playing field but a challenge is a challenge, there is more than one way to skin a cat and rafa seems to know a few other ways after beating them in the european cup and the fa cup in the last two seasons.

Liverpool, as I've just mentioned are on a budget, although it is naive to think we are ''hard up' because anyone other than a handful of clubs would like to have our kind of money to spend, but for a top club we are skint comparatively. Even newcastle and spurs can outspend us without struggle. Luckily we have a manager that is proven in tight budget situations, both Real Madrid and Barcelona had spent hundreds of million when rafa was at valencia but he still managed to win 2 la ligas and a Uefa cup in his three seasons at the club - Valencia's first league win for 30 years and overturned the "big 2". He did it playing 'total football' conceding the least and scoring the most... You can see parallels between his work there and his work here, although we have won different honours winning the european cup, fa cup, european super cup and finals in the league cup and world club championship cup. He has taken over houllier and we are now playing much much better football... controlling total football.

Thats why I think it is a two horse race :)
 
It always makes me chuckle that the most decorated club in English football needlessly overstate their honours by including mickey mouse trophies like the Super Cup and World Club Championship. Reminds me of the 'we won five trophies' bollocks from a few years back.

BakedBeans said:
Winning the european cup ... and final [of the] world club championship cup.

That's the same honour, no? ;)
 
Brize said:
It always makes me chuckle that the most decorated club in English football needlessly overstate their honours by including mickey mouse trophies like the Super Cup and World Club Championship. Reminds me of the 'we won five trophies' bollocks from a few years back.

What are you going on about? It is a fact, there was no bragging in there. I was stating what he had achieved.

As for "we won it five times" that is a fact to. EDIT - i take it you mean the five trophies won in one season... that is an achievement.. not that we won the european cup five times.




That's the same honour, no? ;)


You're correct, no it isnt.
 
BakedBeans said:
As for "we won it five times" that is a fact to. EDIT - i take it you mean the five trophies won in one season... that is an achievement.. not that we won the european cup five times.

Aye, that's what I was getting at: three proper trophies and a couple of showpiece games. Only Liverpool could have such a blinding season and still have an inferiority complex.

BakedBeans said:
You're correct, no it isnt.

Très drôle.
 
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