The problem with iOS 7 is that everything is just... slower.

[WilliamG]

Not a real view. Its just a screenshot of its "last active" state. Making it pretty much useless. The swipe up to quit is nice though.

Actually, add the swipe up as another way in which it's now slower to close multiple apps. I used to be able to quick-tap the "x" to close an app. If you did that on the left-most app, you could just tap the screen really fast to close multiple/all apps. Now it's much slower to close all the open apps.

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So you are saying this is accessible and is more readable? Its just a poor choice.

Ugh that made my head hurt. I have to focus SO hard to read that.

 

[Tyler23]

Actually, add the swipe up as another way in which it's now slower to close multiple apps. I used to be able to quick-tap the "x" to close an app. If you did that on the left-most app, you could just tap the screen really fast to close multiple/all apps. Now it's much slower to close all the open apps.

You know you can close more than one at a time, right? Just put a finger on each app you want to close (one, two or three) and swipe up. So now, it's faster, you can close 3 apps at once as opposed to just one on previous versions of iOS.

 

[WilliamG]

Actually, add the swipe up as another way in which it's now slower to close multiple apps. I used to be able to quick-tap the "x" to close an app. If you did that on the left-most app, you could just tap the screen really fast to close multiple/all apps. Now it's much slower to close all the open apps.QUOTE]

You know you can close more than one at a time, right? Just put a finger on each app you want to close (one, two or three) and swipe up. So now, it's faster, you can close 3 apps at once as opposed to just one on previous versions of iOS.

Yes I'm aware. That does take two hands, though...

 

[WordMasterRice]

This thread hurts my brain so much, does nobody understand the difference between a design decision and a bug? An animation won't happen faster because of these magic optimizations that people are throwing out. "It's a beta" has absolutely nothing to do with this thread... at all.

 

[appleisking]

This thread hurts my brain so much, does nobody understand the difference between a design decision and a bug? An animation won't happen faster because of these magic optimizations that people are throwing out. "It's a beta" has absolutely nothing to do with this thread... at all.

Are you a developer?

 

[nikicampos]

This thread hurts my brain so much, does nobody understand the difference between a design decision and a bug? An animation won't happen faster because of these magic optimizations that people are throwing out. "It's a beta" has absolutely nothing to do with this thread... at all.

Yes it does, didn't you notice the speed difference in animations/transitions from beta 1 to beta 3?

There probably will be 3 or 4 more betas, which will focus on stability, speed and performance

 

[appleisking]

This is a legit question: Can an actual DEV identify they are a dev and can confirm that this animation speed problem is due to lack of optimization so that we can essentially close this thread? Only devs are in a position to know if code optim. will fix this.

 

[towg]

Really? Show me one good example of pure white text on a bright solid background like green on screen? Its bad taste. Were you also happy with the Yahoo Geocities sites with pink text on a blue background that were so popular 10 years ago?

Utter bull. How many sites have you designed because I've made around fifty for large international clients.

Theres plenty of examples online and you dont have to look far. Just because you used a garish luminous green one as an example proves nothing.

 

[jonnyb098]

Actually, add the swipe up as another way in which it's now slower to close multiple apps. I used to be able to quick-tap the "x" to close an app. If you did that on the left-most app, you could just tap the screen really fast to close multiple/all apps. Now it's much slower to close all the open apps.

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Ugh that made my head hurt. I have to focus SO hard to read that.

Yeah a lot of the animations I think will be sped up. They are just showing off their fancy layered new style. Funny Apple used the excuse of having a 4 inch screen because of one handed use.

Personally I hardly ever have to quit apps unless there is a crash. Kinda feels like the Auxo jailbreak is the best of both worlds.

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Utter bull. How many sites have you designed because I've made around fifty for large international clients.

Theres plenty of examples online and you dont have to look far. Just because you used a garish luminous green one as an example proves nothing.

Im a professional graphic designer for print and web. So I think I know what Im talking about. The example I gave was very close to the white on green that apple is doing. If you think thats appropriate and readable then you clearly have no taste.

Once again I challenge you to show me a example of this "good design" you speak of where that color combo is ok.

 

[HarryAinslie]

This is where the iPhone 5s will come into play. It'll be faster, new chips etc!



$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Switchback666]

Disgusting

 

[towg]

Yeah a lot of the animations I think will be sped up. They are just showing off their fancy layered new style. Funny Apple used the excuse of having a 4 inch screen because of one handed use.

Personally I hardly ever have to quit apps unless there is a crash. Kinda feels like the Auxo jailbreak is the best of both worlds.

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Im a professional graphic designer for print and web. So I think I know what Im talking about. The example I gave was very close to the white on green that apple is doing. If you think thats appropriate and readable then you clearly have no taste.

Once again I challenge you to show me a example of this "good design" you speak of where that color combo is ok.

Yep I know what kind of designer you are. The one that 'works from home' as a 'freelancer'. In other words an amateur.

You certainly cant be that experienced if you've never seen a good example of what I mean.

 

[jonnyb098]

Yep I know what kind of designer you are. The one that 'works from home' as a 'freelancer'. In other words an amateur.

You certainly cant be that experienced if you've never seen a good example of what I mean.

Nope not a freelancer at all. And good job offending the freelancers on the forum.....And quit with the personal attacks, be professional. Never said white and green cant work. White and NEON green don't in the way apple is using it on the green bar at the top of the creen for a call in progress. Im still waiting for your proof.

 

[C DM]

You know you can close more than one at a time, right? Just put a finger on each app you want to close (one, two or three) and swipe up. So now, it's faster, you can close 3 apps at once as opposed to just one on previous versions of iOS.

I wouldn't say that's necessarily faster and/or easier: it's still an action of swiping (which is slower and uses more of your finger and its movement) and even using multiple fingers, over an action of tapping (which is must faster and simpler) and using one finger in one place. So, you can do a few at a time, but you can tap in one place even quicker and simpler and close at least that many, if not more, in the same amount of time it would take to swipe a few away, let others move over, and move your fingers back to swipe those away again.

 

[alanjfrancis]

This is a legit question: Can an actual DEV identify they are a dev and can confirm that this animation speed problem is due to lack of optimization so that we can essentially close this thread? Only devs are in a position to know if code optim. will fix this.

No developer that doesn't work for Apple itself will be answer this. While developers get to access to APIs and function calls written by Apple, they won't be able to see the actual code behind them. And I doubt very much if there will be any function parameters that allow the speeding up of core functionality as being discussed here. On the plus side though Apple should be aware of this issue by now and will work their magic before the public release.

 

[appleisking]

No developer that doesn't work for Apple itself will be answer this. While developers get to access to APIs and function calls written by Apple, they won't be able to see the actual code behind them. And I doubt very much if there will be any function parameters that allow the speeding up of core functionality as being discussed here. On the plus side though Apple should be aware of this issue by now and will work their magic before the public release.

Thanks for the input.

 

[jonnyb098]

Yes because your previous comment regarding taste was so professional wasnt it?

As I said. You sound like an amateur if you havent seen any good examples of white text on bright backgrounds. I can think of several well known examples stretching way back to the fifties actually.

Now get off the PC your mums calling you down for your tea

Not going to get into what you sound like.

Clearly you have trouble reading. IN THE CONTEXT OF iOS7 and the call in progress bar (my whole point all along, and the OP) it doesn't work. Understand for the third time? And those examples are?....Still waiting. Show me a great site that uses a neon green background with white text...Come on, I'm waiting.

Proudly typed on a 27" iMac.......and I don't drink tea. Anything else?

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
Enough with the bickering. Debate the topic, do not attack or try to provoke other members!

 

[towg]

Not going to get into what you sound like.

Clearly you have trouble reading. IN THE CONTEXT OF iOS7 and the call in progress bar (my whole point all along, and the OP) it doesn't work. Understand for the third time? And those examples are?....Still waiting. Show me a great site that uses a neon green background with white text...Come on, I'm waiting.

Proudly typed on a 27" iMac.......and I don't drink tea. Anything else?

I've got a degree in Graphic Design. I dont have to prove anything to you my friend

 

[shenfrey]

because its a beta. For crying out loud!

I know? It was just an example of the speed issues that this topic is talking about.

For crying out loud.....

 

[teknikal90]

It's a beta

See, people say the b word like its an excuse for mediocrity.
People said it with iOS 6's Maps and guess what, it still sucked upon release...

Yes it's a beta...but if you actually read into what OP is saying, it's not beta bugs that the OP is complaining about. It's the design choice that was intended to be which sucks.

 

[TC03]

iOS 7 is slower by design. Also, double tapping used to show you four apps right away, now it's only three and it takes more effort to actually navigate. This sucks. It's form over function and less intuitive.

 

[Decimotox]

See, people say the b word like its an excuse for mediocrity.
People said it with iOS 6's Maps and guess what, it still sucked upon release...

Yes it's a beta...but if you actually read into what OP is saying, it's not beta bugs that the OP is complaining about. It's the design choice that was intended to be which sucks.

Seems to me that most of his complaints were about speed, not design. My b word usage still stands.

 

[WilliamG]

Seems to me that most of his complaints were about speed, not design. My b word usage still stands.

No, my complaints were about design, not speed. It's in the very first line of the very first post.

I really think it's best to revisit this thread in a few months when the GM is out. Then we can see if any of our concerns are valid.

 

[dontpannic]

Sorry I saw this and had to say something. I've been a developer for over 22 years and just because a release is a Beta, doesn't mean it has to be slow. I love Apple products as much as the next man (god knows I've got enough of them).

I think it can be forgiven given how much of a change iOS7 is. Most of Apple's early beta versions are slower anyway as the features are being tested - the streamlining and optimisation take place later in the beta process. Remember of course that we're still at least 2 months from release, and if we're talking a regular 2 week release cycle, we're on beta 3 out of 8, so there's still plenty of time for optimisation further along the process.

Every Beta Apple produce seems to be slower than the current "released to the public" version and this seems to be a trend I've noticed over the years.

Might have jumped the gun. See above.

At work we develop functionality in conjunction with performance as the two in our minds go hand in hand. Apple however seem to work on the functionality first and once it's close to acceptable, then work on performance. This is just an observation by m, but may not actually be the case.

And is most likely the way they operate. Not all software developers work in the same way so although your company develop functionality and performance together, doesn't mean that Apple does.

What I hate on these forums are other developers shouting the odds of "Its a Beta". Yes we all know it's a beta, lets just accept it and move on.

Can you blame anyone? If nobody says it's a beta, all we get are hundreds of threads stating the same old stuff 'its so slow it's a piece of crap I'm going to Android' without acknowledging that there is a LOT more to be developed until release.

The idea of these forums are to get opinions from others and to see if functionality etc they are seeing is common amongst other developers/testers

Up until this point, no. The idea of the Apple Developer Forums is what you stated.

users or if there is anything they are doing wrong which can be corrected with the help of others so only real bugs can get reported when necessary.
[/Rant over, move along now]

Technically speaking, discussion of pirated software or warez isn't allowed on this forum so there shouldn't be any discussion of usage of iOS7 on this site at all. Not only have the IPSW's been illegally obtained, those who obtained it genuinely digitally signed an NDA when downloading...

This section of the forum should be general discussion about iOS7, not bug specifics. Those should be on the Apple Developer Forum or the Bug Tracker. Nowhere else.

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If it is a problem, Apple wants to hear about it now. Not at release.

Again, the purpose of the beta is to identify and address issues before release, to avoid a public outcry when IOS7 is deployed to tens of millions of iPhones.

I didn't say that, did I?

I said that IF it's still a problem at release, then there should be an outcry.

We're so early in the beta process and if people who are complaining about the animation speeds in iOS7 were to focus their efforts on reporting it to Apple via the official channels, rather than spending their time bitching about it on MacRumors, it's more likely to be looked at before release.

The more people who report something, the more likely it is to be looked at.