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The OP is right with this one.

The speed of these animations are not a by-product of this being a BETA, they are a very deliberate choice by Apple.

I just hope they come to their senses by the time they release it to the public.
 
Edit: also, seems a lot are confusing lag with choppy. Lag is slow, as in, someone lags behind...Choppy is the opposite of smooth.

The only one confused is you. You clearly have no understanding of lag in the context of an OS / software environment. The term lag is often also used as a synonym for latency which in software manifests itself as a delay between input and response, or in many cases a drop in frames per second resulting in a choppy experience.

An over simplified dictionary response by you does not make you right and everyone else wrong. Much like you watching a YouTube video second hand suddenly makes a person an expert in iOS7, compared to those people who have installed and experienced it first hand.
 
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1.) Multitasking takes longer to initiate after you double-press the home button. It's not as instant to bring up your open apps as it used to be.
Lol. This isn't the iOS 6 multitask view. There is an insignificant delay due to loading previews of apps you're running. It's not just four icons. I launched the view several times and I tried to get to where I'd be scrolling the icons with my thumb before they loaded; I couldn't do it. By the time my thumb made it from the Home button to the middle of the screen and started swiping, the previews had already loaded and were scrolling under my thumb. Any faster than this is pointless.

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2.) Hitting the home button to close an app also has a delay before anything happens.
Yes it does, and it is longer than I'd care for. If it went straight into the animation, there wouldn't be an issue. My theory is that the delay has to do with the new memory management, how it prepares the application to run in the background. This is something they should be able to improve later on.

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3.) Going into a folder is also slower than it used to be due to the new animation, and now you can only have 9 apps vs the old 16 (16!!), so it's just more work to get to those extra apps.
I agree that the folder animation should be about twice as fast as the app animation. I also don't really like the fact that the folder only utilizes about half of the screen real estate available. They could get rid of the huge folder name on top and use up most of the screen. Maybe the current way makes it fit the old 3.5" screen better? I'd like to see them use about 95 % of the free screen space and then let you close the folder by swiping down (since Spotlight is disabled when a folder is accessed anyway).

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4.) With the bottom bar in Safari now missing, it takes an extra step to bring up your bookmarks. Either scroll up or press the bottom of the screen to bring up the menu. Either way it's slower than it used to be!
The point of the "missing" bottom bar is that it goes away automatically when you scroll down page content so as to free up room for the content. This makes better use of the screen space available, and more pleasurable browsing. Tapping the bottom of the page to access it is hardly a huge price to pay for that convenience.

These things are fairly subjective, though. Just because I don't find them nuisances (with the exception of the couple of things I mentioned) doesn't mean you shouldn't be bothered by them. Just expressing my insignificant thoughts on the subject.
 
Its common sense in the design world. White text on bright colors never has or will read good on a screen.

I totally agree that the white text on Neon green is TERRIBLE. I don't have a problem with most of the design in IOS 7, but that one has really got me wondering what they were thinking. The only way it could be worse is white on white. :D
 
I expect this post will just get lost in the crowd but I'm sure it wasn't the efficiency of the code that the OP was upset with – animation lengths are chosen deliberately, and all of them are in my mind set to be far too slow.

I've used a jailbroken device (not my own) fairly extensively who's got little else but a tweak that enables customisation of animation speeds throughout iOS and I can attest to how much more fluid using the device feels when they're less than half of the standard speed. It actually allows you to get things done quicker as there's no lag or unresponsiveness, so in iOS 6 (.1.2) it's clear how the animations are entirely aesthetic (and functionally limiting) and not there to hide any loading.

There are other deliberate design choices in iOS 7 aside from the new animations, some of which I've seen harped on about in other threads that are really worth complaining about:
First in Safari to refresh the page two taps are required instead of one to get to the top of the page without scrolling, in the Clock app's World Clock view the current times were displayed as digital and analogue side by side but now in favour of a spacious white column the user must tap any of the clocks in order to switch view.
While multiple apps can be closed at once from the multitasking view you can only open from a choice of three (one less than before) without resorting to scrolling making it too slower than before, less apps are now viewable in a folder without swiping – and the folder opening animation is still slower than a swipe between homescreen pages!
The bright white "content focussed" interface can cause eye fatigue for some meaning that screen brightness has to be reduced.. making your content harder to see.

The one place I've noticed that Apple have stripped out an animation is the shutter that snaps closed upon capture of a photo which for no apparent reason also means that the photo just taken is no longer held on screen momentarily – the only way to see if another, less blurry, attempt needs taken is to tap the thumbnail and open it fully.

Potentially useful additions to iOS like a system-wide "Use Last Photo Taken" control or displaying items in the Photos app (on iPhone) in the correct aspect ratio (like on iPad) instead of cropping the longer axis to leave a square seem to have been ignored and the functions that have been added are half-hearted; why not have the clock icon change from a ticking clock to a countdown timer if a timer is active, (provided the same colours and associated proportions are retained of course)? Why can't the countdown appear beside the Clock app shortcut in Control Centre?

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I don't mean from a speed perspective in the sense that the current-generation iPhone isn't fast enough.

I just mean that all the things we used to do just take longer.

For example:

1.) Multitasking takes longer to initiate after you double-press the home button. It's not as instant to bring up your open apps as it used to be.

2.) Hitting the home button to close an app also has a delay before anything happens.

3.) Going into a folder is also slower than it used to be due to the new animation, and now you can only have 9 apps vs the old 16 (16!!), so it's just more work to get to those extra apps.

4.) With the bottom bar in Safari now missing, it takes an extra step to bring up your bookmarks. Either scroll up or press the bottom of the screen to bring up the menu. Either way it's slower than it used to be!

Everything just seems far more relaxed than the instantaneous nature of iOS 6. I like iOS 7 in general. Some things really need to go (like the obnoxious and nigh-on impossible to read green bar at the top of the screen when you're on a call), but generally it's good. It just takes quite a bit of getting used to when everything you used to do just takes that much longer to do.

I'm not sure why everyone is saying "it's just a beta". That's not the answer to all of these so called problems. Let me address them one at a time.

1. Multitasking is just as quick. Honestly, I'm going to have to say that's all in your head. Plus, the design is great and so milliseconds of a speed difference changes nothing.

2. This is the one that really bugged me when I read it. Your phone must be able to differentiate between a single click to go back to the home screen & a double click to pull up your multitasking. The delay is your phone making sure you weren't wanting to double click for multitasking. Its much like when you have your "Triple-click home" option on, when double clicking for multitasking there is a slight delay because the OS is waiting for the third click. If there wasn't this delay, your double click would have to be unnecessarily quick.

3. The new folders are gorgeous. Once again you're debating about milliseconds. Honestly I couldn't even say for sure which one is faster. Did you really just say getting to those extra apps takes more work? Because swiping over is so strenuous? I don't know what the Max limit is for apps in a folder now, but it's obviously more than 9 since you can have multiple pages in each folder.

4. Full screen safari is incredible. It finally allows you to appreciate the longer screen that so many people paid $200 for. I love the way the tab bars disappear when I'm surfing the web. There's no reason for them to be there 24/7.

All in all, your post provides you clear or true reasoning behind any of your complaints. Some of them are just plain stupid.
 
I'm not sure why everyone is saying "it's just a beta". That's not the answer to all of these so called problems. Let me address them one at a time.

1. Multitasking is just as quick. Honestly, I'm going to have to say that's all in your head. Plus, the design is great and so milliseconds of a speed difference changes nothing.

2. This is the one that really bugged me when I read it. Your phone must be able to differentiate between a single click to go back to the home screen & a double click to pull up your multitasking. The delay is your phone making sure you weren't wanting to double click for multitasking. Its much like when you have your "Triple-click home" option on, when double clicking for multitasking there is a slight delay because the OS is waiting for the third click. If there wasn't this delay, your double click would have to be unnecessarily quick.

3. The new folders are gorgeous. Once again you're debating about milliseconds. Honestly I couldn't even say for sure which one is faster. Did you really just say getting to those extra apps takes more work? Because swiping over is so strenuous? I don't know what the Max limit is for apps in a folder now, but it's obviously more than 9 since you can have multiple pages in each folder.

4. Full screen safari is incredible. It finally allows you to appreciate the longer screen that so many people paid $200 for. I love the way the tab bars disappear when I'm surfing the web. There's no reason for them to be there 24/7.

All in all, your post provides you clear or true reasoning behind any of your complaints. Some of them are just plain stupid.
What might be just milliseconds to you can easily be completely pointlessly wasted time for at least some if not a lot of others. It's a given that animations are longer in iOS 7 in general, and it's also a given that speeding up (or paractically removing) animations in previous iOS versions through a jailbreak tweak makes the phone feel noticeably more responsive or "snappier" if you will. Put those two together and you can clearly see what is being discussed, why it can certainly be noticeable and not desirable by quite a few, and why the whole "it's a beta" thing isn't necessarily relevant (although it can be if they change the animation design by the time the iOS 7 GM/final is out).
 
People said that the unibody MacBook Pro at it's unveiling that it's a step back. But turns out it's the greatest laptop in history.
 
If I had to take a stab at it....I would say this is pretty much the speed we are going to get having the iPhone 5. Obviously, the 5S will run it much faster. Been the same for years.....3G-3GS.....4-4S......5-5S. The older device will run fine as it is now. However, for that speed bump.....gotta get that 5S:D
 
If I had to take a stab at it....I would say this is pretty much the speed we are going to get having the iPhone 5. Obviously, the 5S will run it much faster. Been the same for years.....3G-3GS.....4-4S......5-5S. The older device will run fine as it is now. However, for that speed bump.....gotta get that 5S:D
If an animation is designed to last for a certain length of time, it would seem that it would still take just as long on newer hardware/software.
 
I feel bad for the people paying $95 for iOS7.

iOS7 is not worth my money. I tried it, it's not worth it.
 
I feel bad for the people paying $95 for iOS7.

iOS7 is not worth my money. I tried it, it's not worth it.
iOS 7 doesn't cost money. People might pay to become a paid developer (and that would be $99/year), but that's not exactly for iOS 7 (even though you do get access to Apple's beta releases, iOS 7 being the current one).
 
iOS 7 doesn't cost money. People might pay to become a paid developer (and that would be $99/year), but that's not exactly for iOS 7 (even though you do get access to Apple's beta releases, iOS 7 being the current one).

If someone wasn't a paid developer, but then decided to become one just to test out iOS 7..
 
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Did you guys read the same thread I read? I don't think so. It has nothing to do with the beta, read again please.
It's the fact that folders have 9 apps instead of 12, that multitasking shows only 3 apps at a time and it's harder to find the app you want (in android the view is way better), the fact that the animations are taking too long, especially the annoying folder animation which then makes me scroll inside it. I loved how I could put 4 rows of apps inside a folder.. now it forces me to scroll through.

It might change, but without any criticism it will stay the same.
 
I was thinking that maybe the unlock is faster?
It's marketing material simulated images at best. It has nothing to do with how the actual thing truly behaves. Those "images" also had some shadows here and there and various other things to make things look nicer--like a fast good hamburger looks much bigger and juicer in an ad compared to a squished sad looking thing in real life.

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Well, if it's any indication, it should become faster.
That's the thing, that's not really any indication. Just an ad more or less.
 
It's marketing material simulated images at best. It has nothing to do with how the actual thing truly behaves. Those "images" also had some shadows here and there and various other things to make things look nicer--like a fast good hamburger looks much bigger and juicer in an ad compared to a squished sad looking thing in real life.

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That's the thing, that's not really any indication. Just an ad more or less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT_OmTMwvZI

Look at the app opening animations from 2:12 onwards.

Also Apple is not selling "hamburgers". It is giving iOS 7 away for free. Don't see why they would lie about animations being faster.
 
You know what else sucks? Since iOS 5 you could swipe back in the camera app to get to the photos, now you can't, because it takes you to video. That's the dumbest thing Apple could do... Tapping the button is so much less convenient. I hated how people didn't even use this swipe gesture, and now I'll have to be one of them ):
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT_OmTMwvZI

Look at the app opening animations from 2:12 onwards.

Also Apple is not selling "hamburgers". It is giving iOS 7 away for free. Don't see why they would lie about animations being faster.
Selling or not but promotional materials are usually made to look better in various ways.

Just because it's that way in promotional materials doesn't really mean it's that way in real life. Now, as mentioned a few times in the thread already, things might change in some way with respect to animations by the time iOS 7 GM/final is out, but we'll have to wait and see if that might be the case (and unfortunately something on Apple's web site or some other promotional type of material on its own doesn't necessarily indicate that will or won't be the case).
 
It's MUCH faster.
And again what exactly does an ad/promotional material (displaying simulated/tweaked content) being faster say anything about the real thing as far as any actual details? Nothing much really.
 
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