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Virgil-TB2

macrumors 65816
Aug 3, 2007
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IM giving one to my girl friend as I want to be Muti-Touched! :D
I'm surprised there isn't any multi-touch porn yet given the public's propensity for that sort of thing.
It's a pretty obvious application of "touch" technology.

You have a picture/movie of a girl on the screen and you, uh .. you know "multi-touch" her to get her to do, uh ... stuff.

:eek:
 

CmdrLaForge

macrumors 601
Feb 26, 2003
4,635
3,117
around the world
Even so I would love getting an Apple PDA I don't understand why they seperate the product line and don't include the functionality in the touch. Its just software.
 

HTrig

macrumors member
Sep 24, 2007
32
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Do you really think people are that stupid :rolleyes: Hhhhmmm, I just can't see someone accidentally buying a UMCP instead of a Touch or iPhone.

This forum has certainly gone to the crapper lately with all the new dimwit Mac owners/switchers. There was once a time on this forum when you could actually have an intelligent discussion. Those times are now long gone though. I suppose this is what happens you gain marketshare :(

Matt

off topic - maybe they dont but you apparantly do, i think you sorta contradict yourself there :D

on topic - would it be possible that an increase size (as well as allowing better functionality for some applications) would make space for a higher capacity battery thereby removing the power restrictions that have been stated as the reason there is no current 3G iphone. after all the new trend with apple seems to be releasing old concepts (phone, ipod etc...) combining many features (phone, internet, wifi) why would they release a PDA without something else in there.

if im wrong though please feel free to tell me im a dimwit mac owner :D (only for seven years now lol)
 

Aplovmyi

macrumors newbie
Jul 15, 2007
4
0
Oh Great - More Hype

This is going to suck - another announcement of super-zilla cool product months before its release. Endless days waiting for the damn thing to get to market. More hype, more biblical nicknames (e.g., Moses Tablet, god slate, etc.).

I need to go to Apple rehab. I've got hype overdose.
 

lord patton

macrumors 65816
Jun 6, 2005
1,052
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Chicago
In the medical industry, however, there are numerous applications ranging from pharmaceuticals to diagnostics which require professional custom software packages...
In fact, recent patents have suggested the medical industry is one of Apple's prime targets. It fits their Pro business model because they seek out high-tech, high margin industries that pay top dollar for equipment instead of going simply to the lowest bidder.

Physicians, surgeons and nurses can use an Apple PDA for live OR and ICU diagnostics... coupled with newer technologies like portable MRI, robotic surgical instruments, etc. Such devices need high-bandwidth Wi-Fi far more than they need a telephone with SMS.

Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned this (I'm not reading the whole thread, so my apologies if others have made these same comments).

I don't recall exactly where I read it—perhaps WIRED—but Apple and Steve Jobs have a good relationship with the CDC in Atlanta. From what I recall of the article, the people at CDC requested a tablet from Apple. Steve Jobs replied with a litany of technical issues that made it impossible. The two most prominent obstacles were insufficient screen resolution to make reading charts (x-rays, CTs, MRIs, etc) on a tablet practical, as well as wireless protocols that were too slow to deliver the data. This was circa-2000

Well now those obstacles are gone. Wireless-n and the 160 ppi (and greater!) screens are now consumer products. If Steve was told face to face of the demand for a product like this, you can bet he continued to think about and look for the day when Apple could pull it off. It might be coming real soon.
 

Orng

macrumors 6502
Jul 23, 2007
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In the medical industry, however, there are numerous applications ranging from pharmaceuticals to diagnostics which require professional custom software packages... ...
In fact, recent patents have suggested the medical industry is one of Apple's prime targets. It fits their Pro business model because they seek out high-tech, high margin industries that pay top dollar for equipment instead of going simply to the lowest bidder.

Physicians, surgeons and nurses can use an Apple PDA for live OR and ICU diagnostics... coupled with newer technologies like portable MRI, robotic surgical instruments, etc. Such devices need high-bandwidth Wi-Fi far more than they need a telephone with SMS.

On that note, I have some friends in the paramedic biz. If they are on their way to a call, and they have a pretty good idea of what they are going to, then they happily re-read that section of the manual/textbook whatever on the way, in PDF form on their blackberry. (I think its a blackberry, whatever, something that stores and reads PDFs)

So when they get there, they are refreshed on that topic. They gave me the impression that this is common practice.
 

Yvan256

macrumors 603
Jul 5, 2004
5,081
998
Canada
Pda?

I'm sure it's already been said, but you only have to add some programs to the iPhone and iPod touch and they'll be full-fledged PDAs. No need to make yet another product.
 

madmaxmedia

macrumors 68030
Dec 17, 2003
2,932
42
Los Angeles, CA
I agree with Analog Kid. It's not that such a device wouldn't be useful to some people, but I don't think there's enough of a market for it.

Beyond the "Cool! It's a Mac tablet!!! OMG!!!" factor, where does this device actually fit in peoples' lives? Not just MR members who have 3 or 4 Macs and would love another toy, but regular people that constitute the majority of sales?

As cool as this could be, I think it's largely a solution in search of a problem. And probably a feasibility protoype as well, rather than something that is already planned for production.

There's this whole middle ground in personal devices that people can't get to work, and the problem is one of size. The PDA thing was useful when phones couldn't carry all of your information, but now they can. And so can your iPod. Viewing documents on a handheld device is useful, but the devices are too small for information entry. I remember sitting in meetings and watching people chicken scratch at their Palms and it just wasn't useful. That's what killed the PDA-- you can't use it to input information beyond to-dos, phone numbers and appointments and all of those things are better handled by your phone.

Once you make something big enough for document entry, it's too big to carry on a belt or in a pocket. If you need a bag for it, you may as well carry a laptop. There's room for smaller, lighter laptops, but they're increasingly niche products because they can't be full functioned. The smaller and lighter they get the more niche they become until you cross through the dead zone and get to phone size.

There's just no place for this, as far as I can tell.
 

gkarris

macrumors G3
Dec 31, 2004
8,301
1,061
"No escape from Reality...”
I agree with Analog Kid. It's not that such a device wouldn't be useful to some people, but I don't think there's enough of a market for it.

Beyond the "Cool! It's a Mac tablet!!! OMG!!!" factor, where does this device actually fit in peoples' lives? Not just MR members who have 3 or 4 Macs and would love another toy, but regular people that constitute the majority of sales?

People who don't need a full blown laptop and who also are not on AT&T. ;)

It's also great for education since elementaries can give each kid a Apple PDA Tablet instead of having to purchase a full-blown laptop or TabletPC...
 

BTW

macrumors 6502
Mar 4, 2007
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I'm sure it's already been said, but you only have to add some programs to the iPhone and iPod touch and they'll be full-fledged PDAs. No need to make yet another product.

Right, but I believe companies like UPS and FedEx could use a slightly larger form factor with hand recognition. Hospitals and students might appreciate such a device for note taking. Instead of a PDA, they may be working on a doable tablet that would have more market penetration than the tablets loaded with Windows. :cool:
 

neutrino23

macrumors 68000
Feb 14, 2003
1,881
391
SF Bay area
This is a very interesting rumor. As pointed out above, the most likely thing is that this is a prototype testing the concept. This has happened many times before. Just because someone saw one doesn't mean it will be released as a product.

I disagree that this is not worthwhile pursuing. Something larger than an iPhone but smaller than a laptop could serve a lot of needs. As was also pointed out above it might not serve the needs of MR readers. Riding on a train (especially in Japan) or any job that requires standing is an example of a need for a hand held device. If this could run regular OS X apps like Keynote, Preview, Tex-Edit Plus and Applescript and iPhoto this could be really helpful for some people.
 

i0Nic

macrumors 65816
May 17, 2006
1,456
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Sydney, Australia
This thing sounds more like a tablet computer than a PDA. I wouldn't be too surprised if this was the case, Jobs has hinted numerous times that he believes portability is the future of computing and that desktops are dieing.
 

sishaw

macrumors 65816
Jan 12, 2005
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Are you serious? How do you efficiently edit a Word doc or and Excel spreadsheet or a Indesign layout or an iMovie movie with a 6in screen much less a virtual keyboard?

It's not your main editing tool, more a way to get work done during down times, like waiting in lines, for example. I used to use a Treo that way (Yes, I edited Word documents and transferred them back to my laptop or desktop when I got home. I also used a blogging tool where your text went right from the treo to posting. It might not seem ideal, but it's fantastic to be able to get something done in situations where it was previously unthinkable ).

As for iMovie, well, you may have a point there!! Although I recall that spreadsheets to go worked quite well on the Treo also.
 

jellomizer

macrumors 6502
Sep 12, 2006
486
4
Upstate NY
PDA are old.

PDA's are so 90's now. Most of the features of a PDA are already on most cheap cell phones. We do not normally want to carry around a slew of digital devices. For most people it is just a Cell Phone, Perhaps a CellPhone and an iPod, But a Cell Phone, iPod and a PDA is getting too much. I don't think the Apple or the SJRDF can really bring a PDA to the market, and get people running for one.
 

analogkid

macrumors regular
Jun 9, 2003
109
0
Savannah
I think too many people are hung up on the PDA label. This device is almost surely a housing for the Moorestown system shown by Intel at the IDF forum. In other words, as others have mentioned, more UMPC than PDA.
Bring it on.
 

P-Worm

macrumors 68020
Jul 16, 2002
2,045
1
Salt Lake City, UT
This is exactly what I need. I don't get why everyone is complaining that the iPhone is basically the same thing with a phone, when people have been asking for a phoneless iPhone for quite a while (the iPod Touch doesn't count).

This would also explain why they removed the ability to update calendar info on the iPod Touch.

P-Worm
 

sblasl

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Apr 25, 2004
844
0
Heber Springs, AR
I know of a company that back in the day were doing audits for many national restaurant chains using the Newton, they had hundreds of auditors across the US. If Apple will allow 3rd party apps, I think that there is definitely a place for devices like this.

People need to take the blinders off and think outside of the box, too many times people pigeon hole products & services and can only imagine how they would use it. There really is 6,602,224,175 ways that it might be used.
 

seanm924

macrumors newbie
Sep 25, 2007
17
0
I doubt that they would do this...this iphone and iPod touch already do pretty much everything a PDA did and more...a "iPhone/iPod pro" with a 5" screen and longer battery life might do though.
 

MikieMikie

macrumors 6502a
Aug 7, 2007
705
0
Newton, MA
Another Writer

Exciting times ahead, perhaps...The PDA is dead... Long live the PDA...

Just because PDAs are seen as clunky and passé doesn't mean Apple can't make something simple, elegant, useful and intuitive. As a writer, I'd love to be able to use a small device with a fold-up keyboard; I'd leave the laptop at home.

I think Apple could breathe new life into sectors of the market that haven't grown... simply because the products to date have been poor.

I have a friend who writes for a living. On seeing my iPhone, the first thing he did was try to type something on it. He searches (in vain) for something that is portable, easy to use, and will let him write.

-- Mikie
 

Fwink!

macrumors member
Mar 5, 2002
86
0
Earth
I have a friend who writes for a living. On seeing my iPhone, the first thing he did was try to type something on it. He searches (in vain) for something that is portable, easy to use, and will let him write.

-- Mikie

Let me be the first to suggest the hideously obvious.

A note book and a pencil.
 

Object-X

macrumors 6502a
Aug 3, 2004
633
142
Dashboard

I want to mount it in the dashboard of my SUV. The demensions seem close to a double din.
 

MikieMikie

macrumors 6502a
Aug 7, 2007
705
0
Newton, MA
There is great potential for an iReader, if it can replace everyone's needs for physical books and make iTunes ubiquitous (if it isn't already).

Do you think there was a need for iTunes U? No, but Apple realizes its college demographics and wants to make iTunes more functional. An inkwell-based iReader pad would reignite the education segment that gave Apple some of its thunder in the early days.

I think it's the much awaited sub-notebook. It makes perfect sense not to go the Foleo route, no matter how thin it may be.

As much as they used to, Apple doesn't seem care about functionality anymore -- they care (as they should, since they're a publicly held company) with selling more iPods and other devices that iTunes Server can talk to. Our next iPhone update will include the ability to send them money directly from our iPhones (Wifi ITMS).

Perhaps my original sarcasm missed its mark? My desire is for an eBook reader, and for anyone to supply them to me.

And BTW, iTunes U is not a reading medium -- it is designed for the short-attention-span student. Thus my pre-chewed steak comment earlier.
 
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