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Du you get paid for saying stuff like that?
Du you get paid for saying stuff like that?
I wish. I'd be an even richer man if they paid for my enthusiasm towards their products and services.
To be honest, after seeing the reviews I’m not sure I’ll ever get on board with this series of products. I was quite amped on the whole idea of Immersive Video and the illusion of being present in places I couldn’t physically visit, but now I’m looking at virtual reality with new eyes.
A computer brings the idea of computing into the real world. The “spatial computing” concept tries to invert that and bring the real world into a virtual space, overlaying virtual elements onto a variety of real world subjects. It’s like living in an annotated world.
It seems to me like having a barrier between me and the real world is not something I’d enjoy.
A computer brings the idea of computing into the real world. The “spatial computing” concept tries to invert that and bring the real world into a virtual space, overlaying virtual elements onto a variety of real world subjects. It’s like living in an annotated world.
It seems to me like having a barrier between me and the real world is not something I’d enjoy.
Apple Vision Pro review: A revolution in progress
Pricey and far from perfect, but still a revolution
Dude, one reviewer cooked wearing it. With Siri she made new cooking timers. She the put one timer floating over a big pot, and another timer over a pan of rice. Each timer over the physical thing. The thing is magic. And this is just the very earliest beginning and it’s already magic. It’s going to get way better.
This reminds me when all the people started nitpicking things on the original iPhone because it wasn’t perfect in every way. They made baboons of themselves missing that, um, hey, this thing is a revolutionary product that just redefined computing.
Vision pro is that Too.
Don’t get me wrong. It ain’t perfect. And version 1 won’t be for everyone. But this thing is a revolution. It got the recipe right.
Don’t miss the the big picture and it’s this: this IS the next revolution in computing and Apple knocked it out of the park.
Everyone will be copying this Vision Pro as close as they can moving forward.
I think most of the reviewers complaining about your avatars get it wrong. it’s like hearing your voice. You don’t like it and are nitpicking. I don’t know those people and watching their avatars looked amazingly good. Furthermore, I’m shocked at how well the outside fake eyes actually worked.
These are just people looking to bitch. Then they turn around and on Brian’s video equivocate that it’s good. All too cowardly to be honest and take a position. Which is, the avatars work surprisingly well. Not perfect, but shockingly well.
These are just people looking to bitch. Then they turn around and on Brian’s video equivocate that it’s good. All too cowardly to be honest and take a position. Which is, the avatars work surprisingly well. Not perfect, but shockingly well.
The nausea reports are likely influenced by two things:
- AVP uses a maximum frame rate of 90fps. 90 is considered the minimum for avoiding proprioceptive disconnection nausea, where the movement of perceived objects due to screen refresh and geometry redraw lags the ability of the inner ear to communicate movement and angle information (personally, I cant even use a camera with an electronic viewfinder, if it has a FPS under 90). This is especially pronounced for peripheral vision, where objects have to move further per unit of time (why the edges of film frames are shuddery in long helicopter tracking shots), than objects at the centre of vision.
- Inside-Out tracking. Inside Out tracking is less reliable than lighthouse tracking used by SteamVR. Lighthouses provide fixed references in the environment, that mean the headset is more solidly locked to the real world, and therefore to your meat body's movement in that real world.
AVP goes up to 100hz. It does, 90, 96 and 100hz depending on several factors. 90 when you’re dealing with media using 30/60hz media as it’s a good multiple of that. 96 for 24fps media as a multiple. And 100hz for European media operating on 50hz pal basis.
im not sure if you can try and force the headset to a specific rate to your preferences. One reviewer went skiing in it and it worked well enough to do that!
I mean, that sounds absolutely terrible and is looking to solve a problem that doesn't exist?
Interesting, I'd only seen 90 mentioned previously. It will of cource remain to be seen if the GPU is capable of animating CG elements up to that frame rate consistently. A Vive may run the screens at 90hz, but if the content animation drops below that because the GPU can't keep up... 🤢🤮
What I came for:
“I’ve saved the best for last. Vision Pro is simply a phenomenal way to watch movies, and 3D immersive experiences are astonishing. There are 3D immersive experiences in Vision Pro that are more compelling than Disney World attractions that people wait in line for hours to see.
But I can recommend buying Vision Pro solely for use as a personal theater. I paid $5,000 for my 77-inch LG OLED TV a few years ago. Vision Pro offers a far more compelling experience (including far more compelling spatial surround sound). You’d look at my TV set and almost certainly agree that it’s a nice big TV. But watching movies in the Disney+ and TV apps will make you go “Wow!” These are experiences I never imagined I’d be able to have in my own home (or, say, while flying across the country in an airplane).”
Yea, who cooks and needs a timer! 🙄 Yea, seems destined to fail. That opinion is as solid as all the prognostications of the failure of the iPhone. 🙄
To each there own.
I thought iJustine's video was quite informative, as she walked the viewers through the entire setup process and showed off a couple of features like the keynote app and what editing in FCP would look like on the giant screen. In contrast, MKBHD's video seemed the most lacklustre, as it was a simple unboxing (seems he's saving the meat for a second video). But it also easily racked up the most views, so maybe that's what the audience wants?
Just finished the video review by the verge, but haven't gotten round to Brian's review yet (since I don't follow him on YouTube).
I am surprised Apple seemed to have sent out so few review units this time round?
Brian’s and iJustine had to two best ones, imo. They were able to showcase how regular folks would use them.
Well, sheesh, call me a luddite, but my Apple watch copes fairly well giving me timers and alerts while I'm cooking. Poor stupid Siri can at least do that much.
No need to strap a heavy visor to my face and deal with steam and fat droplets spattering around.
Wielding sharp knives that require some precision all while viewing it through an array of cameras that aren't even high resolution enough to tell if you're actually grinding pepper into your food.
Reading labels in the cupboard? Seems to be not working that well.
And who follows along while cooking? Do you?
I mean, really, who follows along step by step while cooking as if it some kind of home economics class 101.
Maybe it's just me thinking this, but if you are going to be on a FaceTime call with someone, wouldn't you want to see the actual person, rather than a persona? It sounds like a big compromise they are trying to make due to the limitations of the device.
I think someone spiked your Kool-Aid. I’m sure the people working on this barely saw their family for many years, worked long hours, missed their kids first steps, were treated like corporate drones, and not rewarded financially for its delivery. Your novelty device has some blood on it. When you think of everyone exploited along the way….there’s nothing to be proud about. Your product has a cost that others pay for.
MKBHD is just being smart about it. He knows that even a simple unboxing will rack up millions of views. So he can make more money by splitting things into multiple videos.
Well, smart for him, perhaps. Frustrating for the viewers.
How is that a compromise? There’s simply no way to capture an actual feed of you while you’re wearing a headset. If you’re choosing to wear Vision Pro during a call, this is literally the only way it can be done, aside from initiating the call on another device that can record you.
The personas really look very poor and uncanny - especially if you know the person. My wife reckoned they looked ok so long as you didn't actually know the person very well. But on a video call? Not sure who's going to use it for that rather than any other device they have which has an actual camera.
The generated eyes are also deeply creepy, very dull in colour and I don't think work. I suspect if I ever get one of these, I'd like to be alerted to someone coming up to me so I can just take the headset off and talk to them. I get why they've done it, but not sure its been fully thought out.
After a few videos, I still think its main use case for me would be to watch media while traveling or in bed at night when I don't want to disturb someone else.
Using it to be able to work on a big "canvas" with my laptop if I'm traveling does appeal. I really like the look of the virtual workspace with windows around me.
That use case also appeals if I'm doing a bit of work at night in another room which isn't my office which has my large screens. Often when working on my laptop I'll just focus on a couple of windows and one specific piece of work rather than having three monitors with different work for each client on each one. So I'm still interested to see how that could work.
Objectively, in no way are those three use cases worth $3500, so I'm still on the fence a bit about getting one.
I think it's undeniably a "cool" thing to have and I can see how transformative it could be for people with accessibility issues, but it's clearly a v1/developer release due to the price and limited apps. However, unlike the first iPhone, iPad or Apple Watch, the hardware seems to be at a much more capable level than any of those v1 products were.
The generated eyes are also deeply creepy, very dull in colour and I don't think work. I suspect if I ever get one of these, I'd like to be alerted to someone coming up to me so I can just take the headset off and talk to them. I get why they've done it, but not sure its been fully thought out.
After a few videos, I still think its main use case for me would be to watch media while traveling or in bed at night when I don't want to disturb someone else.
Using it to be able to work on a big "canvas" with my laptop if I'm traveling does appeal. I really like the look of the virtual workspace with windows around me.
That use case also appeals if I'm doing a bit of work at night in another room which isn't my office which has my large screens. Often when working on my laptop I'll just focus on a couple of windows and one specific piece of work rather than having three monitors with different work for each client on each one. So I'm still interested to see how that could work.
Objectively, in no way are those three use cases worth $3500, so I'm still on the fence a bit about getting one.
I think it's undeniably a "cool" thing to have and I can see how transformative it could be for people with accessibility issues, but it's clearly a v1/developer release due to the price and limited apps. However, unlike the first iPhone, iPad or Apple Watch, the hardware seems to be at a much more capable level than any of those v1 products were.