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The U.K. iPhone 4 Thread

I've just been off the phone to my local apple store then o2.

Apple said all the phones are sim free and that they lock them on site if u buy it. So if O2/voda/orange payg is cheaper u can have it but they will lock it before u leave with the handset.

O2 said that the call centre doesn't know if it will get any phones at all till the 24th but that the O2 stores, and onlinesite will.

You will be able to buy the UNLOCKED handset for £499 as an UPGRADE so any simplicty users, current contract customers have this option.

Later a cheaper locked PAYG O2 handset will be launched but on the 24th its matched to the apple prices.

She finally said that know one knows the stock status of the white model but if its out then the O2 store is the best bet.
 
My adventures in mobile phone land, part 2 ...

After my T-Mobile visit I went to my local Orange shop again to ask about pre-orders and got a very similar answer to the one Neil1980 just posted. They have a sign in the window saying that it is available from the shop from 7:00am on the 24th. They said that they had just got a message from head office this morning saying that pre-orders are not being accepted yet but expect that to change in the next couple of days. They are running a list where they are taking names and phone numbers to call when they are open for pre-orders.

I am told that I won't be able to order online for in-store collection but, if I come into the store to place my pre-order then I can collect it on the 24th from the store. I'm told that when I come in to place my pre-order I will get a till receipt that is confirmation of the order and the reservation.

- Julian
 
JulianL said:
My adventures in mobile phone land, part 1 ...
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So it really sounds like T-mobile won't have it from launch then, judging from their completely clueless staff, one week from when they're due.

Pity that I won't be staying with them then - I was happy with them, but I think Orange is where its at for the 24th, depending on vodafone!
 
So......the 24 month contract handset price for the 100m tariff is more expensive than the 18 month, and the press department have confirmed this via twitter!?!

Oh hold on......looking at the webcam in the Press Office I see why.......

disney-is-using-their-marketing-muscle-to-bring-back-the-muppets-for-a-new-generation.jpg
 
gazzrenn said:
Simplicity has never included a phone, why would it now?
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I was struggling to read the table made no sense, get it now. Noticed your from Blackpool, you pre-ordered of queueing on the day? Hoping to get mine from O2 in Cleveleys should be semi-quiet.
 
itsohkaye said:
Will we get a micro-sim with our iphone 4 on launch? Or do we have to badger o2 to try and get one before?
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This is what I am trying to figure out!

How are those of us who ordered a sim free iP4 from Apple going to get a micro-sim? It looks increasingly like O2 are not going to be sending any out to those who registered there interest in the iP4.

On a different subject - do any of the other carriers support visual voicemail?
 
JulianL said:
My adventures in mobile phone land, part 1 ...

A couple of hours, and hundreds of posts ago, I said that I was about to go into my local T-Mobile shop and ask them if it was possible to get a micro SIM issued for my PAYG account. The results were predictable but, thanks to some kind people at my local Orange shop, slightly comical (at least to me).

I asked the guy in the T-Mobile store and he said really condescendingly to me that no networks do micro-SIMs and no one is planning to do them, there's only one type of SIM available out there and that's the standard SIM that everyone uses.

I'd been expecting this so, just for fun, I'd prepared a response. Last week I'd gone into my Orange shop to ask if they would be doing iPhone pre-orders and we were chatting and they said, do you have an iPad and do you want a free micro SIM for it with £10 of credit on? I said yes so I'd put the Orange micro-SIM in my pocket still in the Orange-branded packaging.

"No networks issue a micro-SIM then?" I asked again, just to be sure. "No" he says again. At this point, as a real gift, he pulled out a standard T-Mobile PAYG SIM to show me and said "this is what all the SIMs look like" (again, very condescendingly). I now pulled my Orange micro-SIM out of my pocket and said to him, "Well, this is what a micro-SIM looks like that Orange just gave me." (OK, I know it was only an iPad data SIM but O2 have already announced a micro-SIM swap-out program so I knew that what he'd told me was an outright lie and I thought that the Orange micro-SIM was a reasonable exhibit to demonstrate it. He of course was too clueless to know the difference.)

So, basically yet another in-store jerk. I wouldn't have been so irritated if he'd just said he didn't know, it's the fact that he claimed to know for sure that no network was planning to issue micro-SIMs that really annoyed me.

- Julian
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To be honest you gotta take the advice given in Mobile Phone shops with a pinch of salt as it goes?

They are normally just 'ordinary' folk who don't follow the Tech News (note normally, there are some great people out there but most of them don't know anything) who will just try and sell you a phone to make money for themselves.

I am shocked though at how little they have been educated, has there been no training into what a Micro-Sim is?

Also, I take it that we will be able to upgrade in-store if you are an existing O2/Orange Customer at the Apple Store, Yes?
 
Grab this - http://bit.ly/dqmdsn

And use the dropdown boxes at the top to do direct comparisons between Orange and O2 and Vodafone (based on leaked).

Im expecting Vodafone to now announce their prices, but in relation to those leaked prices, id expect them to stick another £30 on the phone cost.
 
danj122 said:
if you have preordered a PAYG phone from the apple store do you still have to pay £599 (32gb iphone 4) regardless of whether it will be PAYG on o2/orange etc?? Or will they adjust the price to the price that o2 and orange have announced?
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Hi danj122, according to the Apple site

When you purchase your iPhone from the Apple Online Store, you’ll get it SIM-free. So you can sign up for service with the carrier of your choice and change your carrier at any time.... iPhone may also be available at a reduced initial price with a contract directly from your wireless carrier

So if you buy from Apple directly you pay £499 (16Gb) or £599 (32Gb), plus whatever tariff you wish to buy.
 
djrm said:
So......the 24 month contract handset price for the 100m tariff is more expensive than the 18 month, and the press department have confirmed this via twitter!?!

Oh hold on......looking at the webcam in the Press Office I see why.......

disney-is-using-their-marketing-muscle-to-bring-back-the-muppets-for-a-new-generation.jpg
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they arent comparable as they were in the past, because given the daft way they have presented it in the o2 table, they are organised by monthly minutes instead of monthly commitment.

Think of it as 18 months @ £30/month gets you a 16gig IP4 for £209, whereas 24 months @ £30/month gets you the same for £179.

It's presented in an unusual fashion, but I am pretty sure its right. No excuse for dicking around for so long then coming up with such a crappy presentation of the numbers, though.
 
Raikun said:
anyone here know what O2's coverage is like in Oxford?
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Average, it really depends where you are. Headington is full signal, 3G, unless you go in the JR where you enter a black pit of doom. Centre of town is usually okay outside, but go inside a building and it will usually drop off. Bizarrely, High Street seems to be 1-2 bars, GPRS only.

Rest of Oxford is pretty much the same. 3G signal with some areas of drop off, and occasionally lack of signal in buildings.
 
hippyharry said:
Grab this - http://bit.ly/dqmdsn

And use the dropdown boxes at the top to do direct comparisons between Orange and O2 and Vodafone (based on leaked).

Im expecting Vodafone to now announce their prices, but in relation to those leaked prices, id expect them to stick another £30 on the phone cost.
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So for a 32 gig for 12 months, buying unlocked and going with GiffGaff works out cheapest. Mind made up.
 
No PAYG for launch? ouch.....i was really hoping there would be.

O2, from being nicely in first place last time with the 3G and 3GS's, have now found themselves potentially in last place by not offering the handsets on PAYG.

Either its a really bad move or demand is really that high and supply low.
 
C225 said:
Vodafone homepage says pre-order yours now but the link takes you to the old iphones still
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yes rather annoying actually. got a missed call from vodaphone today, might call them back and see what it was about. i have registered my interest with them. my contract is not up untill the 8th of september, gonna have to try and blag an early upgarde.
 
tezmo said:
they arent comparable as they were in the past, because given the daft way they have presented it in the o2 table, they are organised by monthly minutes instead of monthly commitment.

Think of it as 18 months @ £30/month gets you a 16gig IP4 for £209, whereas 24 months @ £30/month gets you the same for £179.

It's presented in an unusual fashion, but I am pretty sure its right. No excuse for dicking around for so long then coming up with such a crappy presentation of the numbers, though.
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Umm

18 x £30 + £209 = £749
24 x £25 + £279 = £879

Why would you sign up to a two year deal? Muppets :)
 
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