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So I read on the O2 site that you can pick up a Microsim from them from Monday if you've pre ordered.. Wont the Apple store have any microsims? I don't fancy queueing at the Apple store and then queueing at O2 for a sim..
 
For potential UK buyers of the 32 Gig iPhone, I have calculated total cost of ownership and actual cost per month (total cost of ownership / contract length) for each of the 3 UK networks that have released pricing. Where possible, I have also included Quidco cashback although ordering through Carphonewarehouse and Quidco gets the best cashback of £70.

If there is enough interest, I'll do the 16Gig version.

Phil
 

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Alternatively you can tell then to get stuffed and go to PAYG elsewhere, can't you? If they don't start doing PAYG very very soon they will lose customers, we could easily stick any old sim in for a week or two till the iPhone PAYG sims come out. They are trying to force us to take contracts we don't want.

I've done exactly that. When I requested my PAC, they wrote to me and asked why; I told them. Then I told them again. Corporate greed in the short term overshadows the longer term gains if they kept me on board. Their loss, I suppose; I'm going to move to Orange.

Can anybody tell me if Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile,... is better than O2 for the iPhone?

I've had a few problems over the past 1.5 years on O2 with my iPhone 3G. This includes late sms, dropped calls, incoming calls not showing up and just going straight to voicemail. The internet over 3G has also been rather slow at times. I live in central London, Zone 2.

Please help, I have to make a decision before picking up my iPhone 4 on thursday :)

In order of 3G coverage from best to worst:

Three > Orange > Vodafone > T-Mobile > O2

As for call quality on 2G networks, I couldn't say. I had trouble making phonecalls today on O2 and I can't say that any network is going to be trouble free - Vodafone are apparantly the "most reliable" according to some recent mobile telecoms industry awards and they may be right.

I'd say on signal quality that all the above operators have their own street-level coverage checker map showing signal strength in whatever areas you frequent most often. Do you think it would be helpful if you took the ten most common locations and then scored them in order to determine the strongest network for your area?
 
simplicity unlimited internet

yea im getting PAYG and putting my simplicity sim into it, cheapest option.

does anyone know if the 12months free internet with a new PAYG iphone from O2 will work with a simplicity contract or will i have to upgrade my simplicity package to one which includes the unlimited internet?


I have a simplicity sim with 'unlimited internet' and as far as I understand it you should be able to 'swap' your existing tariff onto a micro-sim, but I do not think you can 'upgrade' to 'unlimited' internet, you will have to choose one of their 'iphone tariffs' if you do not already have the unlimited internet on your sim. In other words if you do not already have 'grandfather rights' then you will not be able to get them retrospectively, which is a shame.
 
I need some advice. I'm in the last 2 months of my Orange contract and am eligible for upgrade. I've reserved an iPhone 4 for pickup on the 24th and wanted to know if the upgrade process (renewing the contract, changing to a micro-SIM etc) can be done in-store on the day? If so, does this also mean that I'll be paying the subsidised price for the phone itself (i.e. £119 if i renew my contract and get a 24 month contract at £35/month)

Any help would be much appreciated, thanks!
 
£500 and £600 - that is laptop territory for many. This is just ridiculous.

I liked the idea of the new iPhone, but at this price it's a massive failure.

Everybody can do electronics. The trick is to create something at the right price. Half a grand for a phone is not very cool.

seriously, I totally agree. I'm a student, I have the cash for the iphone, but my macbook is falling to bits... what do I do? It's insane. I could almost buy a new macbook or a netbook or something. The more I think about it, the more it annoys me.
 
Hey guys, my first post in this thread! You've probably heard this 100 times but I just wanna make sure. I've reserved a 16GB iPhone 4 at the Apple Store in Exeter and have received the confirmation as well.

This means I will definitely have one waiting for me with my name on it as long as I go in before closure on the 24th, yes?

Thanks! :)
 
I've done exactly that. When I requested my PAC, they wrote to me and asked why; I told them. Then I told them again. Corporate greed in the short term overshadows the longer term gains if they kept me on board. Their loss, I suppose; I'm going to move to Orange.



In order of 3G coverage from best to worst:

Three > Orange > Vodafone > T-Mobile > O2

As for call quality on 2G networks, I couldn't say. I had trouble making phonecalls today on O2 and I can't say that any network is going to be trouble free - Vodafone are apparantly the "most reliable" according to some recent mobile telecoms industry awards and they may be right.

I'd say on signal quality that all the above operators have their own street-level coverage checker map showing signal strength in whatever areas you frequent most often. Do you think it would be helpful if you took the ten most common locations and then scored them in order to determine the strongest network for your area?

3G coverage all over UK? Would make a difference in London? Sources?

I'm would go with O2 or Vodafone.
I'm tempted with Voda 'cause has 7.2Mbps connection speed, can actually anyone confirm this?
 
Talking of Vodafone or, specifically their 5MB European data allowance, does anyone know what 5MB will allow me to do? Are we talking checking email and 5 mins general surfing or what? It sounds useful as I go to Ireland a lot but I don't want to be checking the amount every time I launch Safari!
 
Hey guys, my first post in this thread! You've probably heard this 100 times but I just wanna make sure. I've reserved a 16GB iPhone 4 at the Apple Store in Exeter and have received the confirmation as well.

This means I will definitely have one waiting for me with my name on it as long as I go in before closure on the 24th, yes?

Thanks! :)

I can't answer you for sure, but, I too have one reserved. It is my understanding that each reservation will be held until close of play on the launch day. There would be precious little point in having a pre-order system if, when you arrived on the day, the order wasn't there for you.

I have a 70 mile round trip to my local Apple store, if it ain't there, I'll be looking for answers!
 
popped into my O2 store and picked up an iPhone microsim with no problems at all. transferred over almost instantaneously.

bring on thursday!

Please tell me how you can use your microsim without iphone 4? Im due to get an orange microsim delivered & i would prefer to change over before thursday due to the obvious reasons that it will probably manic to try changing then....
 
Please tell me how you can use your microsim without iphone 4? Im due to get an orange microsim delivered & i would prefer to change over before thursday due to the obvious reasons that it will probably manic to try changing then....

You can't without a micro sim to sim adaptor, as far as I am aware anyway.
 
£500 and £600 - that is laptop territory for many. This is just ridiculous.

I liked the idea of the new iPhone, but at this price it's a massive failure.

Everybody can do electronics. The trick is to create something at the right price. Half a grand for a phone is not very cool.

It's all too easy to classify the iPhone as "just a phone", but the iPhone 4 is basically a very small computer that can fit in your pocket and makes calls/sends texts.

I paid £342 for my iPhone 3G back in September 2009. In my eyes, the extra £157 Apple are asking me for the iPhone 4 represents fantastic value.

I'm going from:

2mp picture camera > 5mp picture camera with LED flash.
No Video Recording > 720p Video Recording.
ARM 412 MHz CPU > Apple A4 (800MHz - 1GHz ... unknown exactly yet).
128mb RAM > 512mb RAM.
480 x 320 resolution > 960 x 640 resolution.
163 pixels per inch > 326 pixels per inch Retina Display.

Add to that, dual mic suppression, 802.11b/g/n (compared to just b/g on the 3G), the Gyro, iMovie, and iOS4 features like Multi-tasking ... it's easy to see where I can justify spending the extra £157.

So £499, after looking at things that way, is no big deal.

I sold my 3G for £200, and have put the money on an Apple Gift Card to it doesn't get spent on other "household" things. Next month I'll put the other £299 to it, and I'll be the proud owner of an iPhone 4.

And the phone MUST be impressive enough to justify the £499 tag if my wife even wants a white one with the pink bumper. And trust me, my wife scrutinises the value of EVERYTHING technological I look at buying!
 
You can't without a micro sim to sim adaptor, as far as I am aware anyway.

The O2 Micro Sim pack comes as a full size Sim that has a Micro Sim inside it (hope that makes sense) You can put it into your phone now and then just pop out the Micro Sim bit when you get your iPhone 4.

Just got 2 from the O2 store and my numbers were transferred within minutes.
 
£500 and £600 - that is laptop territory for many. This is just ridiculous.

I liked the idea of the new iPhone, but at this price it's a massive failure.

Everybody can do electronics. The trick is to create something at the right price. Half a grand for a phone is not very cool.

It's in the same ballpark as last years price. I don't think it's been a massive failure when it's sold out before it's even hit the shelves.
 
I have a simplicity sim with 'unlimited internet' and as far as I understand it you should be able to 'swap' your existing tariff onto a micro-sim, but I do not think you can 'upgrade' to 'unlimited' internet, you will have to choose one of their 'iphone tariffs' if you do not already have the unlimited internet on your sim. In other words if you do not already have 'grandfather rights' then you will not be able to get them retrospectively, which is a shame.

I have one of the rolling 30 day simplicity plans with 'unlimited' internet (but no cloud wifi or visual voicemail). If I buy a the full price phone from Apple and then continue to use my current plan (once swapping to a microsim), is my data going to get capped by O2 in October? Or will the terms continue as is until I make a change in plan?

Apologies - no doubt this has been done to death, but this thread is BIG.
 
The way micro-SIMs will work on O2 is they push out of a real size SIM, so you could change today, and use it in your iPhone 3GS, and then push out the smaller micro-SIM on Thursday to use in your iPhone 4!

See here;

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/micro-sims.html

The O2 Micro Sim pack comes as a full size Sim that has a Micro Sim inside it (hope that makes sense) You can put it into your phone now and then just pop out the Micro Sim bit when you get your iPhone 4.

Just got 2 from the O2 store and my numbers were transferred within minutes.

Holy hell that's smart!

Thanks for that guys!
 
The O2 Micro Sim pack comes as a full size Sim that has a Micro Sim inside it (hope that makes sense) You can put it into your phone now and then just pop out the Micro Sim bit when you get your iPhone 4.

Just got 2 from the O2 store and my numbers were transferred within minutes.

So you just went in and asked for a Micro SIM?

Did you need any other I.D ... iPhone 4 pre-order print out or anything?

If you can just walk in and ask for a Micro SIM that would be ideal ahead of when I get my own iPhone 4.
 
Is the after 9 months downgrade still valid does anyone know? I fancy going for £40 to get the the phone for £209 and then scale down after 9 months to £35 this would bring annual cost of the contract and phone to £884. But maybe there is a niggle in the new early upgrade thingy :confused:
 
My tuppence worth on the contract issue -

I can't see Apple offering ANY contract at instore at a reduced cost, so those looking to upgrade through O2, or take on a new contract at the subsidised prices, will have to do it direct from the carrier.

It makes sense then, that those taking a SIM from Apple on the 24th will either be getting a PAYG or one of the 30-day type contracts. I'm sure that 24 month contracts would be available, but why anyone would take one after paying £4/599 for a phone is beyond me.

I'm going to be queueing outside O2. Joy.
 
My tuppence worth on the contract issue -

I can't see Apple offering ANY contract at instore at a reduced cost, so those looking to upgrade through O2, or take on a new contract at the subsidised prices, will have to do it direct from the carrier.

It makes sense then, that those taking a SIM from Apple on the 24th will either be getting a PAYG or one of the 30-day type contracts. I'm sure that 24 month contracts would be available, but why anyone would take one after paying £4/599 for a phone is beyond me.

I'm going to be queueing outside O2. Joy.

Not so, I called Apple the other day, as have many others and they are offering contracts on all networks who are released on the day. New and Upgrading.

If you plan to wait outside O2, I hope you aren't a new customer, as you won't get a phone that way
 
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