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The U.K. iPhone 4 Thread

I think when we see the tariffs for the other providers everyone is going to be expecting the worst.

Keeping my fingers crossed Orange keep the 750mb and not drop it to 500mb.
 
I'm not the biggest O2 fan but why are people blaming O2 exactly? Do people REALLY think the other carriers will do any better? seriously?

Lets face it O2 was always the lenient...somewhat generous one of all of them. If anything i'm expecting worse terms from the others. Except maybe Three
 
I'm confident if O2 show the handset prices today it will force other networks to show there hand.

I don't think other networks will show there deals until they see what O2 are offering. In theory O2 could wow us with low price handsets (not going to happen, I'm being theoretical) so I think the other networks will really want to see what there full offer is.
 
daneoni said:
I'm not the biggest O2 fan but why are people blaming O2 exactly? Do people REALLY think the other carriers will do any better? seriously?

Lets face it O2 was always the lenient...somewhat generous one of all of them. If anything i'm expecting worse terms from the others. Except maybe Three
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I think three may surprise us the only bad thing about 3 is they have dropped all 18 month contracts!!
 
daleski75 said:
I think three may surprise us the only bad thing about 3 is they have dropped all 18 month contracts!!
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The ONLY bad thing?? Surely you jest! Their customer service has reached a new level than no one else can stoop to! They are utterly utterly useless and once you a signed up to a contract with them, that's it. You might as well sell your soul to the devil!
 
djrm said:
Fees were £13.79 for my £599 iPhone sale actually (including listing and final value fee) prehaps you should understand the fee structure between an auction format and buy it now i.e BIG DIFFERENCE

I bought it just before Christmas and sold it as soon as the Gizmodo leak came out (i.e when I saw how great the new iPhone looked)
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Why come onto a forum and lie? Not really sure what the point is.
 
Just reading another forum and read that current iPhone tariffs will NOT work on the new iPhone 4? So i won't be able to swap my simplicity over? Can anyone confirm this?

Cheers
 
scb02 said:
Just reading another forum and read that current iPhone tariffs will NOT work on the new iPhone 4? So i won't be able to swap my simplicity over? Can anyone confirm this?

Cheers
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When why would O2 say on there website that customers currently in contract can purchase a PAYGO handset and even have there insurance swapped over?

Don't you think O2 would have said this already if it was true?
 
jontucker said:
The ONLY bad thing?? Surely you jest! Their customer service has reached a new level than no one else can stoop to! They are utterly utterly useless and once you a signed up to a contract with them, that's it. You might as well sell your soul to the devil!
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hahahaha well I did sign up to three once and it took a while to get a pac code they are persistent little b*****s!
 
I doubt any carriers will offer unlimited internet anymore, not only because of the 1% of people who abuse it now, but because apple want to get deals to allow facetime to work on 3g. Every carrier will want to get everyone off unlimited internet as soon as possible because if facetime takes off, it will take down their networks especially if it only counts towards data and not any minutes used. Also with these 2 year contracts, carriers need to predict how much data we will be using then, not now at the beginning of the contract.
 
Stiss said:
When why would O2 say on there website that customers currently in contract can purchase a PAYGO handset and even have there insurance swapped over?

Don't you think O2 would have said this already if it was true?
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Must have missed over that bit mate. Will have a gander on there website now.

Still slight confusion if my unlimited internet will stop on October the 1st or not though.
 
scb02 said:
Missed of missed over that bit mate. Will have a gander on there website now.

Still slight confusion if my unlimited internet will stop on October the 1st or not though.
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It sounds like anyone signing up to a new contract or upgrading and committing to a new contract from 24 June will have the new 500MB data limit.

Anyone who is using their existing contract or simplicity sim in the new iPhone and buying it on PAYG will be unaffected until you change your tariff or upgrade.

I think....
 
brobert99 said:
It sounds like anyone signing up to a new contract or upgrading and committing to a new contract from 24 June will have the new 500GB data limit.

Anyone who is using their existing contract or simplicity sim in the new iPhone and buying it on PAYG will be unaffected until you change your tariff or upgrade.

I think....
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In all honesty there website doesn't read to well about it.

I read it as the same as you however many times I ring O2 they just don't have a clue lol.
 
brobert99 said:
It sounds like anyone signing up to a new contract or upgrading and committing to a new contract from 24 June will have the new 500MB data limit.

Anyone who is using their existing contract or simplicity sim in the new iPhone and buying it on PAYG will be unaffected until you change your tariff or upgrade.

I think....
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This is correct.
 
I'm considering going into town today and starting a Simplicity For iPhone Tariff to get the unlimited data, but I just don't know if that will persist until the end of the 12 months or only until October.

My other option is to continue rolling month-by-month on my current contract that technically finished last month. It costs way too much and has more minutes and texts that I now need, but at least the data is unlimited. If I keep on rolling, buying a PAYG handset, does anyone know if I keep the unlimited data indefinitely or only until October?
 
Peter Harrison said:
I'm considering going into town today and starting a Simplicity For iPhone Tariff to get the unlimited data, but I just don't know if that will persist until the end of the 12 months or only until October.

My other option is to continue rolling month-by-month on my current contract that technically finished last month. It costs way too much and has more minutes and texts that I now need, but at least the data is unlimited. If I keep on rolling, buying a PAYG handset, does anyone know if I keep the unlimited data indefinitely or only until October?
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They cannot change your contract once you have signed it. The O2 rep last night confirmed they have some people on 10yr old contracts.

You can keep your current contract indefinitely with the unlimited data (which is technically limited anyway as the T&Cs say reasonable usage is 1GB per month) and pay the high fee, or get 12months simplicity, which won't change in October, and see where the land lies next year.

Or wait and see what Orange/Voda/T-Mobile/3 offer.
 
Tesco-mobile who use O2's network are currently offering much better sim-only deals than O2.
Really fed up with O2 giving us bits of info every couple of days-we need their prices in order to work out the best bet.
My wife has an out of contract 3G, I've a 3GS on a contract until end of December & we're off to France until the end of the month at the weekend so have to let the dust settle & wait (wonder how much a PAYG would be in Paris!).
Unless O2 pull something good out of the hat PAYG is looking the best bet at the moment, then get a new mini sim from O2 for the new phone to use up my contract. However, can't be sure until we get all the prices.
Prefer to stop on O2 network 'cos get good signal in the house-T-Mobile & Orange were useless here, Vodafone is OK & not sure about 3, tho' friend (an IT pro) got so fed up with their customer service he had an 'accident'-threw the dodgy phone at the floor & jumped on it!!! So I'm a bit wary of a 3 switch to put it mildly.
 
photojonny said:
They cannot change your contract once you have signed it. The O2 rep last night confirmed they have some people on 10yr old contracts.

You can keep your current contract indefinitely with the unlimited data (which is technically limited anyway as the T&Cs say reasonable usage is 1GB per month) and pay the high fee, or get 12months simplicity, which won't change in October, and see where the land lies next year.

Or wait and see what Orange/Voda/T-Mobile/3 offer.
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I took out a Simplicity for iPhone on Tuesday and its unlimited data - get one now whilst you still can.
 
Old Simplicity - New iPhone

I spoke to like three different people at O2 yesterday. It's definitley clear that they don't really know what they're talking about but basically everyone I spoke to seemed adamant that you couldn't use an unlimited data SIM in the new iPhone. "Unlimited data isn't compatible with the new iPhone" was the first, slightly retarded reply I got. I asked how a tarrif can "not be compatible with a phone" but she couldn't explain. I said I want to keep my existing SIM, tarrif and contract and it shouldn't matter what phone I decide to put it in. Bottom line is yesterday they were sticking to the story that I can't keep my current tarrif with the new iPhone but this is at odds with what I've seen on this forum.

Surely I can just buy the new one on PAYG, plug it into iTunes, register it with an old PAYG SIM card and then cut my exsiting one down to size and stick that in? I wouldn't imagine that the phone would recognise it's on an old contract and suddenly limit my data????

Any thoughts?
 
Adskee said:
I spoke to like three different people at O2 yesterday. It's definitley clear that they don't really know what they're talking about but basically everyone I spoke to seemed adamant that you couldn't use an unlimited data SIM in the new iPhone. "Unlimited data isn't compatible with the new iPhone" was the first, slightly retarded reply I got. I asked how a tarrif can "not be compatible with a phone" but she couldn't explain. I said I want to keep my existing SIM, tarrif and contract and it shouldn't matter what phone I decide to put it in. Bottom line is yesterday they were sticking to the story that I can't keep my current tarrif with the new iPhone but this is at odds with what I've seen on this forum.

Surely I can just buy the new one on PAYG, plug it into iTunes, register it with an old PAYG SIM card and then cut my exsiting one down to size and stick that in? I wouldn't imagine that the phone would recognise it's on an old contract and suddenly limit my data????

Any thoughts?
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Hmm... you would think that they wouldn't be able to block your SIM from working with a Pay and Go phone.. but I actually wouldn't put it past them with the whole iTunes registering stuff... I think the best thing to do is to wait a couple of weeks after launch before we do anything... as much as it pains me to have to wait longer!
 
MODS:

this thread, and the link below should be merged - they are the same content with a zillion pages each topic. Everybody is talking about o2 and other uk tariffs.

Reload this Page New O2 iphone 4 Tariffs released
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/933151/

be merged and 2:

Can we have an FAQ at the top of the page with this post from NightFox

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Because there's so many posts in here and people are clearly missing this:

It doesn't matter if you keep your existing contract - from October EVERYONE will revert to capped data. O2 have said that the free unlimited data was always a promotional offer, as reflected in their T&Cs.

In other words, after October NO-ONE on O2 is going to have unlimited data. Even if you stick with your current iPhone, you're still going to lose it.

Any whilst I'm at it:

The data usage your iPhone shows (Settings>General>Usage:'Cellular Network Data') is a 'lifetime' figure, not a monthly figure or since the phone was last turned on or hard reset.

Even if you restore your phone through iTunes, this figure will be restored along with any backup. If you want to check your usage you need to use the 'Reset Statistics' button to reset it.

Hope that helps some people!
 
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