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The whining is getting ridiculous now
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Oh, you live in Europe, great, we can talk Euros then. You want it let's have it
I maxed out and ordered the 13", with 16GB ram, best processor, 1TB SSD. And then there is the ****ton of adapters and YES, do not tell me they don't count there is literally about nothing running TB3 right now so it's needed : 2 power extension cords, 1 extra charger charger (because I can't use my dock at work, yeepee), one USB-C to usb-A for portability, one gigabit ethernet adapter, one TB3 to lightning because you know, I like to plus my ****ING IPHONE LATEST GEN, 2 adapters TB3 to HDMI (very expensive, about 90 euros EACH here in Norway).
Cost : 34801 NOK, which is 3830 Euros ( and actually more, it's just that the kroner is very low. At its previous level it would have been 4200/4300 euros, but let's ignore that for a moment ).
Maxed out Razer Stealth Blade, which has :
- Kaby Lake because yes, it's possible.
- 16GB LPDDR3 ( same as MBP )
- SSD 1 TB
- Same thin factor
- A goddamn 4k screen while mbp has the same resolution as before.
- ALL THE PORTS YOU NEED.
- 150 grams heavier (oooh, my back won't tolerate it !!)
- possibility for Razer Core.
- no idea about the battery (and before you say it, we have no idea about the battery in the maxed out MBP13 by the way, but for sure it won't be "10 hours".
Total = 2000 euros
So 1830 euros less, but with better screen and better portability (no stupid dongles).
How, and you can put a Razer Core on it, if you like to game. And even with the most ridiculous, most expensive Graphic card, at 800 euros, it WILL STILL BE. MUCH. CHEAPER.
Enjoy!
So you have intimate knowledge of the component pricing for the machines? If not, you're just speculating. Only Apple knows what the total package cost to produce.
You may be right or you may simply be disappointed without cause.
First time I see this machine, and I have to admit it looks really fine! The day I feel like going back to Windows this one will certainly be part of the shortlist.Oh, you live in Europe, great, we can talk Euros then. You want it let's have it
I maxed out and ordered the 13", with 16GB ram, best processor, 1TB SSD. And then there is the ****ton of adapters and YES, do not tell me they don't count there is literally about nothing running TB3 right now so it's needed : 2 power extension cords, 1 extra charger charger (because I can't use my dock at work, yeepee), one USB-C to usb-A for portability, one gigabit ethernet adapter, one TB3 to lightning because you know, I like to plus my ****ING IPHONE LATEST GEN, 2 adapters TB3 to HDMI (very expensive, about 90 euros EACH here in Norway).
Cost : 34801 NOK, which is 3830 Euros ( and actually more, it's just that the kroner is very low. At its previous level it would have been 4200/4300 euros, but let's ignore that for a moment ).
Maxed out Razer Stealth Blade, which has :
- Kaby Lake because yes, it's possible.
- 16GB LPDDR3 ( same as MBP )
- SSD 1 TB
- Same thin factor
- A goddamn 4k screen while mbp has the same resolution as before.
- ALL THE PORTS YOU NEED.
- 150 grams heavier (oooh, my back won't tolerate it !!)
- possibility for Razer Core.
- no idea about the battery (and before you say it, we have no idea about the battery in the maxed out MBP13 by the way, but for sure it won't be "10 hours".
Total = 2000 euros
So 1830 euros less, but with better screen and better portability (no stupid dongles).
How, and you can put a Razer Core on it, if you like to game. And even with the most ridiculous, most expensive Graphic card, at 800 euros, it WILL STILL BE. MUCH. CHEAPER.
EDIT: Just had a brief look at the reviews of the Razer Blade Stealth on Amazon. Does not look encouraging at all.
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I was going to say...you must be new here. Whining is all some members do. You think you'll get them to stop now? I applaud your determination.
Skip the threads? For every sensible thread there are 5 nonsensical ranting threads, and even in that one sensible thread someone will come in and start an off topic rant. The OP is right, it has gotten out of control and it is somewhat embarrassing to be apart of a community with so many whiney little children.
Considering how I have been spending all my free time here on this forum (I never knew a forum could be soo poisonous yet so addictive ), I might just accomplish that
I agree with your sentiment....the complaining is out of control. Dongles is the most blown out of context issue I've ever encountered....people need to do some research and figure out you probably won't need any for most things. People are complaining about cost. The TouchBar model added a $300 premium over previous price levels. Sure I don't want to pay an extra $300 but if you can actually afford a 3-4K laptop then you should be able to get over $300. If $300 is a make or break number you shouldn't be buying laptops in this price range anyways.
I've definitely noticed that too. I think a lot of people on this forum are gadget nerds/ keeping-up-with-the-Joneses types that have to buy whatever the newest shiny thing is. Now the newest shiny thing isn't exactly what they thought apple would make for them and we get the incessant whining. It's funny because macs are great computers that last a long time; I'm on a 2008 and I still use it professionally (engineering), but many of these whiners probably do little more than online/office type stuff.
Ditto. That's what I remember too from my experience.
That was from a while ago though, maybe things have changed on latest Ubuntu / Mint ?
Meaning what, it's worse ? The bench show it's better (and the encode I mention is native), what else do you need ?
I don't know about Amazon (usually careful about those) but it's pretty good on the top 3 Google results :
http://uk.pcmag.com/new-razer-blade-stealth-late-2016
https://www.cnet.com/products/razer-blade-stealth-late-2016/review/
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/razer-blade-stealth-2016
Be careful to not mix it with the PREVIOUS Blade Stealth (not Kaby lake, slower RAM etc) !
I have more trust in user reviews than the magazine etc. reviews which don't tell you anything about durability and might be influenced by sponsorship.
Have a look here:
https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Stealt...478591825&sr=8-4&keywords=razer+blade+stealth
Good thing I said be careful to look at the LATE Blade Stealth, not the early one
Those are for the previous iteration. Unless they somehow got a machine that allowed them to travel in the future at the time they wrote those reviews.
As for "paid" reviews from magazines, that's why you always take at least 3 reviews from different magazines.
You can look at more in the Google results, the feedback seems very good to me.
(it's probably not the only great Ultrabook btw, it's just that this one caught my eye, because I could also repace gaming PC)
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Clever boy! That's also why windows is dominating in market share but not in quality of experience (same goes with android). It's history now, but Apple is very strict with keeping HW & SW tied up. That's why I can keep my iPhone updated - while 99.9% other smartphones have android as a single-use system with updates virtually impossible and nobody cares about it.
I think this is what that person was complaining about
Personally, I would be SO happy if I could virtualize OSX on a PC. Even with the overhead, that would be worth it.
If there are 5 unhappy threads for every happy thread, have you ever considered that its not everyone else that is wrong, it is you ? Many people are NOT happy and unlike the OP, many of us have been Apple customers for years and been members here for years.
Yeah we get back to the main point : Maybe people wouldn't be complaining if there wasn't so much to complain about.
Kaby Lake + 16GB RAM and no price update would have been fine, even with the stupid dongles and lack of mag safe and low bandwidth TB3 on 13".
Or maybe the outdated Skylake and 8GB, but without the dongle hell (so, with all the ports necessary and 2TB3) and the price remaining the same.
Or, for the 15", a goddamn valid GFX card. And a 4k screen.
Instead, you have all of those terrible specs and design choices - and more than I've read but don't know about, i.e. the keyboard which will be a surprise for me I guess - for literally no advantages whatsoever, apart MAYBE the TouchBar.
And that's a big maybe.
And Meanwhile in the PC world you get way more powerful machines, without need for dongles, for 60% of the price of this new MBP.
So yeah there is a reason that people here, on social networks, on specialized sites, are all unhappy. That's because it was a ****** release. Maybe it's time to stop complaining about the complaining
Kaby Lake + 16GB RAM and no price update would have been fine, even with the stupid dongles and lack of mag safe and low bandwidth TB3 on 13".
Or maybe the outdated Skylake and 8GB, but without the dongle hell (so, with all the ports necessary and 2TB3) and the price remaining the same.
Or, for the 15", a goddamn valid GFX card. And a 4k screen.
Instead, you have all of those terrible specs and design choices - and more than I've read but don't know about, i.e. the keyboard which will be a surprise for me I guess - for literally no advantages whatsoever, apart MAYBE the TouchBar.
And that's a big maybe.
And Meanwhile in the PC world you get way more powerful machines, without need for dongles, for 60% of the price of this new MBP.
So yeah there is a reason that people here, on social networks, on specialized sites, are all unhappy. That's because it was a ****** release. Maybe it's time to stop complaining about the complaining
My bad... here is the right one:Good thing I said be careful to look at the LATE Blade Stealth, not the early one
Those are for the previous iteration. Unless they somehow got a machine that allowed them to travel in the future at the time they wrote those reviews.
As for "paid" reviews from magazines, that's why you always take at least 3 reviews from different magazines.
You can look at more in the Google results, the feedback seems very good to me.
(it's probably not the only great Ultrabook btw, it's just that this one caught my eye, because I could also repace gaming PC)
https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Blade-...T4EVB3F1MZEVHMJ80&ie=UTF8&qid=1478605388&sr=1
But in any case the comments on build quality and customer service are not very reassuring, it's not a 400 Euro laptop either.
People do that all the time, I have done that in the past. Performance was horrid, wasn't worth it to me. Check out the hackintosh sites, there's guides in how to run OS X virtually.
Correction - weak GPU choice, better than a 2-3 generation old GPU but that AMD weakling GPU can't hold a candle to Nvidia's Pascal offerings. And THINNER form factor, its not necessarily better.
The could have put in a much more powerful GPU, offered 32GB of RAM, and a keyboard with proper key travel, included more ports - if it wasn't for this obsession with thinness and a bigger battery to compensate for the less energy efficient RAM choice - so what if it weights a lb more - it would still be relatively thin, light, but truly a PRO machine.
They should just rename it to the MBPT MacBook ProThin!
you can't please all of the people all of the time, there will always be a group of people who will moan and bitch about something, it happens with new phones, tablets, computers, smart watches and so on. Apple generally don't do something just because someone is demanding it, take for example the touch screen idea, Apple have said a number of times why they won't do a touch screen Mac (it's a very bad idea) but people just won't accept it, and so they moan about it and so on.
Funny because all i've read all year is how the 2015 model doesn't even count as a new machine and they haven't updated the MacBook Pro for "like 5 years" because it came with the same design...then they change design and suddenly the old design is just fine...they can't win...
Yeah but this forum is the actual pits for negativity, long before the MacBook Pro - it's beyond ridiculous at times.
Has it ever crossed your mind that the lack of ports that are usable in the real world *is* a "real problem" for some people?
This is my 6th MacBook Pro in a decade and it's the one i'm most excited to receive by far. I can't wait to ditch the type A connection on my mobile devices for ever, hideous connector. It's cost me all of £20 to upgrade all my cables to USB-C, and yes I said upgrade, because now I can connect all my devices to my computer with the plug either way round! That alone was worth the tiny upgrade price. No hubs, no dongles needed.
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It's got 4 USB ports - thats two more than any MacBook Pro i've ever owned before.
And to be honest i'm glad to not be tied to Apples proprietary charging port anymore, with cables that continually broke and a magsafe connector that fell out more times when I didn't want it to than when I did. If you want MagSafe there are soon to be loads of USB-C magsafe clones filling the market. The chance to use one of Ankers fantastic Powerline+ Kevlar cables that will never break to charge my laptop is a bit step up though.
I don't care about the ports. I even like that Apple is giving me the choice to use whatever i want.
I whine because they didn't use the high end CPU 's available for MBP 15 (6770hq, 6780hq) and they are offering a worse cpu than the previous model (6700hq) , with worse igpu for 500€ more.
I whine because they didn't use the high end CPU 's available for MBP 15 (6770hq, 6780hq) and they are offering a worse cpu than the previous model (6700hq) , with worse igpu for 500€ more.
I really like the 13 inch MacBook Pro. I don't mind having to have an extra dongle or two if the battery life can be extended and it's lightweight and thin.