wow this guy is stupid. there is an issue but the correct word might not be "signal". the antenna is on the outside of the phone, when the hand bridges the 2 antennas there is interference. depending on what cell tower you are connected to and the frequency that tower is transmitting then you might not see any problem. the interference cant be fixed, but there is many options. one the phone could switch frequencies and increase some power to the antenna but that is at the coast of battery life. this is achieved by a software update. and the other is a full recall and fix, but that is not practical. so this is the issue so whatever it is it is still a problem.
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There is NO reception issue. THE FACTS.
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Thanks for the repost!
No ... really!!
I didn't believe these "facts' before. But since you have described this so elegantly, NOW I believe that the iP4 is in fact perfect!!
Thanks again!!!
Ordering my Nexus One on Monday.
Cheers.
Regardless of your carrier, I'd wait for the Samsung Galaxy.
And if I simply cover the mic in the bottom with just ONE finger, no one can hear me. STOP DOING IT.
No evidence of no signal? That's not accurate.
Ok - there's a 6 pixel "limit" to determine defective LCDS. Tell me - what, if any, regulations determine a defective phone?
I don't do it, I did it for purpose of my post
. if I covered it lost all service took finger off service returned... finger covered lost service, returns when uncovered... thats called proof of concept ..... concept being when the bottom left is covered it causes signal and service loss
Well said!
While I don't totally agree with your original post on every point, I agree with your post you just made.
Some people are taking this iPhone 4 thing too far, imho.
The mic works as it's supposed to. Covering it would be unnatural and deliberate.
People hold phones and have the same way for years. If that causes a problem with the signal - an unacceptable problem - then that's a different matter.
If you don't understand the difference between your poor example and the signal issue then bless you.
No signal only in low signal areas. With a really strong signal, there is no way to drop below five bars. Microcell users cannot reproduce this "issue".
If you are shorting the antenna, how would you explain that? Wouldn't shorting it cause it not to function at all?
If you are getting no signal, do you not believe the rational thing to do would be to return the phone?
And these are facts? No - this is your opinion. You have no idea and can't support your statement that with a strong signal, people are dropping their signal. ALL microcell users can't reproduce this issue. And you've surveyed them all?
Can you even show me ANY evidence to support your claim?
don't bother with him, he's clearly lost the plot.. rambling about things that don't make sense and making a fool out of himself.
I have never held a phone like that and I don't cover the left corner when using my right or left hand. When I'm on a call, I grip the sides with my thumb and middle finger, with my pointer finger on the back where the Apple logo is.
But that's irrelevant. The CEO himself said not to hold it that way and that there is no issue, and even after that, you still believe there's a fix? If I'm dumb, then Jobs is even dumber.
It's funny how crazy people always think the sane ones are rambling. Hope your fix/free bumper/class action suit works out for you.
Rofl. I stopped reading midway through the first page. The OP and his arguments have been destroyed so badly I feel embarrassed for him.
Yes. It IS funny how the crazy people always think the sane ones are rambling. for one am laughing while I ramble...
Actually, while I agree with some of your notions in concept, I do have to counter some of this.
1 - I have Microcell and I was able to reproduce the "issue" - the caveat being I had to really press the area hard and hold it at an angle to get the maximum bar dropping effect.
2 - We are not talking about a true DC short that would indeed cause the antenna to completely not work, but a capacitive/RF short that can severely degrade performance. Again, I was able to duplicate the effect both with and without Microcell, but with the caveat it was nowhere near a natural holding position. I had to really get the positions right to get the bars to drop. I also tested with Speedtest and was able to completely block the download/upload on 3G.
3 - Agreed on that. If someone is flat out getting a phone that doesn't get signal, they should return it.
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For me, I've been able to duplicate the "issue" in different locations under different conditions, but all of them in a way I would never naturally use the phone, so I'm a bit torn on what to think. I clearly see the design flaw/issue, but it doesn't affect me in every day usage. I certainly wonder if no one had brought this up, how many people would be noticing the effect, as sometimes you end up seeing what you want to see.
And this folks is why Steve Jobs is arrogant and does nothing to fix the problems. I wouldnt fix a problem either when I have a million people defending me like idiots! Why are people satisfied with a crippled iPhone and making excuses why its not a problem?
If you dislike a company so much that you would disrespect their CEO by calling him, "Idiot of the Year" and its fans "apple apologists", why do you buy their products?
The point everyone keeps avoiding is why they don't just return the phone if it's such a big issue. Apple whiners are worse than apple haters. At least haters don't buy apple products and are generally not on the boards. The whiners buy everything and complain about everything.