This is why i would continue to carry the physical license with me all the time … simple solution to this potential issueWas very excited about this at first but then read a hypothetical realistic scenario someone described.
The cops could get all friendly and say “My handheld scanner doesn’t seem to be working. Would you mind handing over your phone? I’ll just quickly scan on my in-car scanner. Can you please also unlock it so I don’t lose the app? Otherwise I need to file some report for missing documents and we’d need to get a hearing etc. Instead, if you just give me the phone, we’d be done in 5 mins.”
Of course everyone thinks they are not gullible but cops do this for a living. They can word it much better to make it sound convincing.
I agree. It unnerves me I can’t pay cash for a plane ticket too. Everything digital is a really, really horrible idea. Thank god there are people who still stand up for individual liberty. The individual comes first.Was very excited about this at first but then read a hypothetical realistic scenario someone described.
The cops could get all friendly and say “My handheld scanner doesn’t seem to be working. Would you mind handing over your phone? I’ll just quickly scan on my in-car scanner. Can you please also unlock it so I don’t lose the app? Otherwise I need to file some report for missing documents and we’d need to get a hearing etc. Instead, if you just give me the phone, we’d be done in 5 mins.”
Of course everyone thinks they are not gullible but cops do this for a living. They can word it much better to make it sound convincing.
And despite that they still have not managed to issue their ID cards for the general population in anything but paper.Greece is already allowing this, why is this even in news?
You can thank the 9/11 hijackers for that transactional limitation. Cash and coin is frankly a dying medium. It won't last so long as we have computing infrastructure behind everything.I agree. It unnerves me I can’t pay cash for a plane ticket too. Everything digital is a really, really horrible idea. Thank god there are people who still stand up for individual liberty. The individual comes first.
Actually, I'm remembering a few stories from when Apple Pay first hit the scene of checkout clerks and store security guards going after people who used it, because they were absolutely certain that the customer had hacked into their credit card terminal and was committing fraud somehow, leading to some tense moments.When Apple Pay first arrived, a lot of people hadn’t heard of it outside the tech world but at least you could just hold your phone to the card reader if it was contactless and it would usually work, removing any doubt from the staff member.
Arizona has their own app “Arizona mobile ID” - they just also are using wallet app.Colorado already has a pretty nice app for virtual id, it surprises me that many states don't.
How about some people just appreciate their right to privacy.I must not "get it" but what could you have on your phone that you would be afraid of law enforcement seeing?
Planning a bank heist?
Drug deal?
You don’t have to sign up if you are worried.Stupid and reckless. Has anyone ever heard of privacy.
You don't "show" them your ID. You hold your phone near their ID scanner and it gives them the information that way. Nobody is going to trust a picture on a phone. It won't be your word against theirs. If the scanner says it is OK, the people who are trained to use the ID scanner will accept it. Of course if they don't have an ID scanner, you will need to use your physical card which they are trained to check for validity. So far only place there are ID scanners is at 3 airports.It’ll be interesting to see how quickly these things are actually adopted. When Apple Pay first arrived, a lot of people hadn’t heard of it outside the tech world but at least you could just hold your phone to the card reader if it was contactless and it would usually work, removing any doubt from the staff member. With digital ID/Driving Licence, it’s effectively your word against theirs if they’ve never heard of it and it’s a situation where you just need to show them some ID without any actual technical ‘transaction’ involved.
As someone else posted early, CA have said that they are making plans for a digital ID and will announce next year. Not clear if they are going to work with Apple or roll their own like some other states. Why the snark?What a true testament as to how awful the so called "Tech Capitol" state of California that they are not on this list.
Do you still print out a boarding pass when flying? Of course this is starting out small, but is is likely to grow. It seems inevitable that eventually our IDs would become digital. They are information and that is where information is going.Solution in search of a problem.
Is it, though? I find myself without my wallet, and thus, my ID, a bit too often. I find myself without my phone... never.Solution in search of a problem.
Not really. That list of states reads like a "who's who" of technologically backwards, authoritarian-friendly states. California has the strongest consumer protection laws in the country, so I would expect them to take the time to study the technology and implement common-sense protections to minimize the opportunities for law enforcement abuse.That's what I was thinking! You would think Cali would be the FIRST to signup but Nooooooo hhhhh
Which is a bigger cause for concern because those who DO want to be cops will often not be upstanding citizens respecting your rights., not too many people want to be cops these days,