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Was very excited about this at first but then read a hypothetical realistic scenario someone described.
The cops could get all friendly and say “My handheld scanner doesn’t seem to be working. Would you mind handing over your phone? I’ll just quickly scan on my in-car scanner. Can you please also unlock it so I don’t lose the app? Otherwise I need to file some report for missing documents and we’d need to get a hearing etc. Instead, if you just give me the phone, we’d be done in 5 mins.”

Of course everyone thinks they are not gullible but cops do this for a living. They can word it much better to make it sound convincing.
This is why i would continue to carry the physical license with me all the time … simple solution to this potential issue
 
Was very excited about this at first but then read a hypothetical realistic scenario someone described.
The cops could get all friendly and say “My handheld scanner doesn’t seem to be working. Would you mind handing over your phone? I’ll just quickly scan on my in-car scanner. Can you please also unlock it so I don’t lose the app? Otherwise I need to file some report for missing documents and we’d need to get a hearing etc. Instead, if you just give me the phone, we’d be done in 5 mins.”

Of course everyone thinks they are not gullible but cops do this for a living. They can word it much better to make it sound convincing.
I agree. It unnerves me I can’t pay cash for a plane ticket too. Everything digital is a really, really horrible idea. Thank god there are people who still stand up for individual liberty. The individual comes first.
 
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This article is rather pointless in listing the states that are "committed" but not yet available or even mentioned by Apple themselves as coming soon to the function. The wallet as it stands only supports two state drivers licenses. And until that changes no amount of rumor milling will accelerate efforts.

Apple frankly has likely greater influence on these agendas than most anyone perusing these forums.
 
Also... just for the record. In California you actually can offer a photo of your valid CA state drivers license to most officers and agencies. It will not however allow you to purchase certain goods and services... Where a swipe of the magnetic strip is required. I fear that infrastructure will take ages to update for compatibility with phone IDs.

This is one area where Samsung has had a leg up on the industry by offering a simulated magnetic card reader interface on their mobile phones. (Yes. You can use a Samsung Galaxy phone with the "Samsung wallet" app to interface with magnetic card readers. Sadly it's hinged on the Samsung Wallet App and other proprietary tech.)
 
I agree. It unnerves me I can’t pay cash for a plane ticket too. Everything digital is a really, really horrible idea. Thank god there are people who still stand up for individual liberty. The individual comes first.
You can thank the 9/11 hijackers for that transactional limitation. Cash and coin is frankly a dying medium. It won't last so long as we have computing infrastructure behind everything.
 
When Apple Pay first arrived, a lot of people hadn’t heard of it outside the tech world but at least you could just hold your phone to the card reader if it was contactless and it would usually work, removing any doubt from the staff member.
Actually, I'm remembering a few stories from when Apple Pay first hit the scene of checkout clerks and store security guards going after people who used it, because they were absolutely certain that the customer had hacked into their credit card terminal and was committing fraud somehow, leading to some tense moments.
 
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I must not "get it" but what could you have on your phone that you would be afraid of law enforcement seeing?

Planning a bank heist?
Drug deal?
How about some people just appreciate their right to privacy.
 
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It’ll be interesting to see how quickly these things are actually adopted. When Apple Pay first arrived, a lot of people hadn’t heard of it outside the tech world but at least you could just hold your phone to the card reader if it was contactless and it would usually work, removing any doubt from the staff member. With digital ID/Driving Licence, it’s effectively your word against theirs if they’ve never heard of it and it’s a situation where you just need to show them some ID without any actual technical ‘transaction’ involved.
You don't "show" them your ID. You hold your phone near their ID scanner and it gives them the information that way. Nobody is going to trust a picture on a phone. It won't be your word against theirs. If the scanner says it is OK, the people who are trained to use the ID scanner will accept it. Of course if they don't have an ID scanner, you will need to use your physical card which they are trained to check for validity. So far only place there are ID scanners is at 3 airports.
 
What a true testament as to how awful the so called "Tech Capitol" state of California that they are not on this list.
As someone else posted early, CA have said that they are making plans for a digital ID and will announce next year. Not clear if they are going to work with Apple or roll their own like some other states. Why the snark?
 
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Solution in search of a problem.
Do you still print out a boarding pass when flying? Of course this is starting out small, but is is likely to grow. It seems inevitable that eventually our IDs would become digital. They are information and that is where information is going.
 
Yawn. Talk about an underwhelming response by state governments. What’s going to happen first: SpaceX goes to Mars or we have 50 state + 5 territory adoption of this feature.
 
I’m surprised that Hawaii is on the list before California. Normally our state adapt technology pretty freaking slow.
 
That's what I was thinking! You would think Cali would be the FIRST to signup but Nooooooo hhhhh
Not really. That list of states reads like a "who's who" of technologically backwards, authoritarian-friendly states. California has the strongest consumer protection laws in the country, so I would expect them to take the time to study the technology and implement common-sense protections to minimize the opportunities for law enforcement abuse.
 
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