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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%
  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%
  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%
  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%

  • Total voters
    1,333
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HATE?!? I couldnt imagine feeling a negative emotion as strong as my LOVE for my Apple products.

Hate is a strong word.

You strike me as someone that hangs out at the Apple store on a Friday night. Give us break, there's always something to hate.
 
Mouse acceleration curve plain SUCKS!

The Mighty Mouse is fantastic. But mine broke, so right now I'm using my Logitech G5 Laser. The only thing that's bugged me, is the way OS X interprets mouse acceleration on PC-based mice; that weird way that you move the mouse slowly, and the cursor just creeps along. Luckily, SteerMouse to the rescue.

I agree! If there is one thing I hate, It's the mouse acceleration curve in OS X. Plain and simple, does not feel natural. It was such a bummer the first time I plugged a mouse into my brand new MBP. I too purchased SteerMouse to address the issue, still is not as good as Windows though.

Side note: I use the Mighty Mouse at work... Right button blows, you have to take your finger off the left in order to use it. I like the idea of no visible buttons, but poorly executed. Logitech G series is the way to go.
 
I hate that the display cable in my Tibook is probably going and that it's really showing its age. I'd love to get a new Macbook Pro but I'm currently addicted to having a 1680x1050 resolution on a 15" screen. If Apple ever put this on one of their Macbook Pro's, I would be so happy. :D

Moving on to the Mac OS, I hate the transparent title bar in 10.5 and yearn for the one in 10.4. I really do miss it. I don't really miss the brushed metal as much as I thought but oh well. The other thing is I want the option to make the icons in the finder sidebar larger. I hate how they are so friggen tiny.

In the system preferences I'd love to be able to right click on a connection in the network pane to enable/disable, duplicate, or rename it and also just drag the connections up and down to change the service order.

Thats it. :D
 
As a person who used to do competitive multiplayer FPS, I wholeheartedly agree, the mouse is definitely less responsive in OS X - it's really easy to notice this on my Logitech MX 518. If I simply reboot to XP, it's a huge difference.

But this isn't something everyone notices. Just like graphics designers are demanding about displays and music professionals are touchy about speakers/headphones, some people can notice problems in mouse responsiveness/precision. The superiority of wired mice over wireless ones is a similar dilemma.

I'll give you that. We speak of this in different ways. In games it lags a slight bit. Working with graphics, however, I have no problems with getting it to be accurate.

I think that you have problems with the responsiveness not so much the accuracy. For fast movements it sometimes feels a little slow. This could also be because of the way I have set the acceleration. I should probably have it higher. As far as precision goes in Photoshop, After Effects, and Lightwave it's pixel perfect. Lightwave does feel worse on my Mac than a Windows box, but it is horribly "designed" for the Mac in the first place and running in Rosetta. I'm not sure, but it could also be the difference in dpi between Mac and Windows systems.

By the way, I do retract my previous statement, my wired Mighty Mouse doesn't feel as good as my wired on at work does. I sped up my tracking a bit and it is better though.
 
I hate that the display cable in my Tibook is probably going and that it's really showing its age. I'd love to get a new Macbook Pro but I'm currently addicted to having a 1680x1050 resolution on a 15" screen. If Apple ever put this on one of their Macbook Pro's, I would be so happy. :D

I have the first gen AlBook and it's res is only 1280x854, which is also the biggest they used in a TiBook. 1680x1050 screen res is 4:3. TiBooks were 16:10 and 4:3 Mac laptops never went that high. Even the current 15" MBP only goes to 1440x900. Are you talking about another computer's screen? Were those two thoughts combined into one paragraph?
 
I'll give you that. We speak of this in different ways. In games it lags a slight bit. Working with graphics, however, I have no problems with getting it to be accurate.

I think that you have problems with the responsiveness not so much the accuracy. For fast movements it sometimes feels a little slow. This could also be because of the way I have set the acceleration. I should probably have it higher. As far as precision goes in Photoshop, After Effects, and Lightwave it's pixel perfect. Lightwave does feel worse on my Mac than a Windows box, but it is horribly "designed" for the Mac in the first place and running in Rosetta. I'm not sure, but it could also be the difference in dpi between Mac and Windows systems.

By the way, I do retract my previous statement, my wired Mighty Mouse doesn't feel as good as my wired on at work does. I sped up my tracking a bit and it is better though.

the "acceleration curves" are different between windows/osx.

if you install sidetrack on osx, there is an option to change the mouse acceleration to "redmond switcher" (or at least there was back in 10.3/10.4 when i used sidetrack. (edit - looks like the option is still there.)


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1680x1050 screen res is 4:3. TiBooks were 16:10
1680x1050 is a 16:10 resolution (1680/1050=1.6) and is the standard resolution for 20"-class LCD widescreen monitors. I don't know anything about TiBooks though.
 
I have the first gen AlBook and it's res is only 1280x854, which is also the biggest they used in a TiBook. 1680x1050 screen res is 4:3. TiBooks were 16:10 and 4:3 Mac laptops never went that high. Even the current 15" MBP only goes to 1440x900. Are you talking about another computer's screen? Were those two thoughts combined into one paragraph?

You totally messed it up. 1680 X 1050 is 16:10 and that's what the mac's use today. He means apple needs to raise the Resolution on the MacBook Pro to 1680 X 1050.
 
1680x1050 is a 16:10 resolution (1680/1050=1.6) and is the standard resolution for 20"-class LCD widescreen monitors. I don't know anything about TiBooks though.

Wow I can't believe I screwed up that badly! I think I'll refrain from posting late at night on little sleep again. I was running ragged by 3:30am when I posted.

I was thinking 1400x1050 for some reason when reading 1680x1050. Obviously it's 16:10. I could have clearly just divided by 100 and arrived close enough to the answer.

I work in motion graphics and animation—I know all about screen ratios but thanks guys. Hell, I use two displays with that res at work, lol.

But I was still correct about TiBooks. They stopped at 1280x854, which isn't exactly 16:10 but it's close (it's closer to 16:11). I don't know what res the 15.4" started at, but I bet it was either 16:10 or closer.

Anyway, yes, I agree, I wish that they should go that high in res. It's up to 1440x900 though. That's pretty close. I don't see why you'd hold out with a TiBook though. It's been over 5 years since they've been in stores. They've upgraded way more than the screens since then.

You totally messed it up. 1680 X 1050 is 16:10 and that's what the mac's use today. He means apple needs to raise the Resolution on the MacBook Pro to 1680 X 1050.
You were three hours late to the party, mister. :D
 
But I was still correct about TiBooks. They stopped at 1280x854, which isn't exactly 16:10 but it's close (it's closer to 16:11). I don't know what res the 15.4" started at, but I bet it was either 16:10 or closer.

TiBooks and 15" alu PowerBook had 15:10 screens, but 1280x854 is not quite 15:10, its all strange :)
 
TiBooks and 15" alu PowerBook had 15:10 screens, but 1280x854 is not quite 15:10, its all strange :)

15:10 is one pixel off. That's close enough. I was trying to find a suitable ratio. It's not an easy size to do that with. :)
 
I didn't know Command-Z worked that way ... but it's only good for the last file trashed. Dang!
win explorer has an Undo "stack'. I've never gone backwards more than 3 ops, so don't know how many it stores. also, if you do a rename, move etc, in another file-manager, explorer wipes the undo stack. I suspect if you delete from recycle, that kills the stack from the point at which that file was sent to Recycle (FTWDK, recycle is similar to trash). I wonder how other OSes handle this..
 
im still stuck on how to save my work exactly where i want it

e.g if i make a document in photoshop. i have to save it on my desktop, close down photoshop then drag the file into the folder i wanted it in orginally?
 
im still stuck on how to save my work exactly where i want it

e.g if i make a document in photoshop. i have to save it on my desktop, close down photoshop then drag the file into the folder i wanted it in orginally?

Why do you have to save it to your desktop and then move it? Why not save it where you want it the first time?
 
im still stuck on how to save my work exactly where i want it

e.g if i make a document in photoshop. i have to save it on my desktop, close down photoshop then drag the file into the folder i wanted it in orginally?

Not at all... You're doing it way wrong. There's a little triangle next to the desktop at the top of the save dialogue box. That will let you save it anywhere on your computer.
 
Not at all... You're doing it way wrong. There's a little triangle next to the desktop at the top of the save dialogue box. That will let you save it anywhere on your computer.

That really should be down by default. Who uses it the other way?

That's something I hate about Macs I guess.

I also hate that they changed how user permissions are handled in Leopard, so in upgrading you have all these weird permissions issues. I also hate that they switch webservers without repairing ties from the older versions to the newer ones. I also hate that they never address these issues even though I'm sure they know it exists. I also hate that for some reason, on my work computer, many of the save dialogs in After Effects remain their tiny default sizes instead of remembering my preference. Of course maybe that stems from this retarded user permissions issue and I need to trash my prefs, but I hate doing that! I also hate that for some reason my Photoshop CS3 on my work computer now opens the tool's context menu when I click on a tool. Luckily I know most of the shortcuts but it's a pain when I need a little used one and I have to click it twice for it to work! That may be an Adobe problem, but it still angers me!

/RANT
 
Agreed. Also, I will probably never understand why anyone would want the maximize button to make a window full screen regardless of the contents of said window. The reason for making a window larger is to allow all the content it contains to be displayed at once without scrolling, and that's exactly what the zoom button in OS X accomplishes. It scales the window to fit the content.

well i don't understand why anyone would NOT want to have that option??

i know it's very trendy to be multitasking, having all kind of things going on, but come on.. if i want to focus on one thing, then please let me, and make the freakin window fullscreen.
 
i know it's very trendy to be multitasking, having all kind of things going on, but come on.. if i want to focus on one thing, then please let me, and make the freakin window fullscreen.

Don't stop there- make sure your screen goes 'full-room' so you aren't distracted by what's around it.
 
I dislike how, with Spaces, sometimes a pop box from iTunes or another app hides behind windows and it won't let you click on it.
 
For the love of God, enough of this "I'm a Mac" brainwashing. Sure, Apple is gaining more market share as a result, but it's also making 90% of the population collectively dumber.

Ask any college kid why s/he likes their mac... 90% of them will answer "it just works". Ask them to explain what that means and you get crickets...

It drives me crazy!

Branding Apple as a lifestyle actually discourages me from buying a Mac... then I remember what Windows is like.
 
For the love of God, enough of this "I'm a Mac" brainwashing. Sure, Apple is gaining more market share as a result, but it's also making 90% of the population collectively dumber.

Ask any college kid why s/he likes their mac... 90% of them will answer "it just works". Ask them to explain what that means and you get crickets...

F*CK! It drives me crazy!

Branding Apple as a lifestyle actually discourages me from buying a Mac... then I remember what Windows is like.

That is the explanation. It just works. I'd give you a further explanation, but you obviously don't need it. You shouldn't be mad at people's answers to a question you don't need to ask. ;)
 
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