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I do feel like some, not all, but some of our arguments have stemmed from her friends being extremely jealous. At least 1 argument we had.

That’s how college girls are.
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She’s brought up marriage several times. We went to Zales and she even said which ring she wants lol. She also said how many children she wants and the kind of house she wants me to get her.

If she hasn’t talked about marriage in TWO YEARS your relationship will probably fail.

Bad sign dude.
Ummmm.... my husband and I dated for three before it came up and we’ve been married 18 years.

also, plot hole: Wall Street guys don’t shop at Zales.
 
Ummmm.... my husband and I dated for three before it came up and we’ve been married 18 years.

also, plot hole: Wall Street guys don’t shop at Zales.

No if it takes 2 or 3 years to even bring it up it won’t last. I’ve seen it happen with a friend.

And yeah that’s true most Wall Street guys I know shop at higher end stores but they’re the ones swimming in debt trying to live the lifestyle without the money to do it lol
 
No if it takes 2 or 3 years to even bring it up it won’t last. I’ve seen it happen with a friend.

And yeah that’s true most Wall Street guys I know shop at higher end stores but they’re the ones swimming in debt trying to live the lifestyle without the money to do it lol
Oh I guess I just imagined the past 21 years.
Also, not everyone who works on Wall Street is in debt. Most of them actually know how to manage money. That’s why they make so much. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
Oh I guess I just imagined the past 21 years.
Also, not everyone who works on Wall Street is in debt. Most of them actually know how to manage money. That’s why they make so much. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yeah but what about my friend? And others I know.

I agree you don’t want to bring up marriage too soon but 3 years is ridiculous.

If a girl takes three years to even talk about it, I would dump her and find another one

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BTW, the girl I’m dating now brought it up on our 2nd date. Not the “M” word, but basically in other words. The “M” word didn’t come long after our 2nd date though.

regarding my medication: I’m not taking anything bc things have been fine.

I have been taking that over the counter anti histamine but mainly because it gives me the BEST SLEEP OF MY LIFE lol.
So nights I don’t feel sleepy I take it and I just enjoy sleeping so well :)

plus, it makes my nose less stuffy so that’s always good 🤗
 
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If she hasn’t talked about marriage in TWO YEARS your relationship will probably fail.

Bad sign dude.

Lol.

We've been living together for a year. Things are pretty great.

I'll take advice from you when you've managed to sustain a relationship more than 2 weeks.

🤣
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We went to Zales and she even said which ring she wants lol

Gold digger alert! But given how shallow you're being about the whole thing, like i said above - perfect match.
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Yeah but what about my friend? And others I know.

I agree you don’t want to bring up marriage too soon but 3 years is ridiculous.


They're neurotic head cases as well?

What about my ex who was all about marriage until we split up?

Some people take a while to decide whether they even want to EVER get married. We're quite happily "living in sin". A LOT of SIN. :D

Marriage isn't just some checkbox item to fling yourself into just to check it off on the list.

Not for normal people anyway. The fact this girl is such a freaking head case and has already been picking out rings despite you breaking up once or twice a month (more? less?) is far more of a warning sign.

But hey, by all means, tick off that box.

If a girl takes three years to even talk about it, I would dump her and find another one

Wonder why you're unable to figure this whole relationship thing out?
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Ummmm.... my husband and I dated for three before it came up and we’ve been married 18 years.

Yup, i'd say anywhere between 2-5 years is a reasonable time-frame. For us anyway. Most of the people i know who got married early (e.g., 18-20 or mid-20s) are divorced.

Pretty confident my current relationship is "the one". We both don't give a crap about the piece of paper though, both very much atheists.
 
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Lol.

We've been living together for a year. Things are pretty great.

I'll take advice from you when you've managed to sustain a relationship more than 2 weeks.

🤣
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Gold digger alert! But given how shallow you're being about the whole thing, like i said above - perfect match.
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They're neurotic head cases as well?

What about my ex who was all about marriage until we split up?

Some people take a while to decide whether they even want to EVER get married. We're quite happily "living in sin". A LOT of SIN. :D

Marriage isn't just some checkbox item to fling yourself into just to check it off on the list.

Not for normal people anyway. The fact this girl is such a freaking head case and has already been picking out rings despite you breaking up once or twice a month (more? less?) is far more of a warning sign.

But hey, by all means, tick off that box.



Wonder why you're unable to figure this whole relationship thing out?
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Yup, i'd say anywhere between 2-5 years is a reasonable time-frame. For us anyway. Most of the people i know who got married early (e.g., 18-20 or mid-20s) are divorced.

Pretty confident my current relationship is "the one". We both don't give a crap about the piece of paper though, both very much atheists.

I would be worried if marriage hasn’t been brought up yet dude. 2 years is too long. She might not be interested in marrying you.
 
From the start until now, I feel like so much has changed. I’ve grown a lot and I learned a lot of it from her and she’s become so much better as well.

I’m actually pretty happy in this relationship. No “as needed only” anti anxiety meds or daily pills or blood pressure meds needed which feels great :cool:

I’m even more happy I didn’t see anyone else. Yes cancelling 3 times is tough but that’s just the game sometimes. We’ve all seen the good, the bad, and the ugly.

I feel pretty lucky this Christmas. Career is going well, I’m dating a hot blond, I’ve reconnected with a lot of great friends (mainly my ex and her friends since the girl I’m dating now is friends with my ex)

So lots to be grateful to God about this holiday :)
 
I would be worried if marriage hasn’t been brought up yet dude. 2 years is too long. She might not be interested in marrying you.

As with all things about relationships, women ... life[?], you couldn't be more wrong.

In fact, this (from a few months old, fickle, on/off again relationship):

She’s brought up marriage several times. We went to Zales and she even said which ring she wants lol. She also said how many children she wants and the kind of house she wants me to get her.

... is a recipe for disaster. ;)
 
I don't understand how you can go from shopping at Zales, to planning a date with someone three hours away and then back to girl one. And you SERIOUSLY think you are ready for marriage? And that people who literally take years getting to know each other will end up divorced?

OMG.
 
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It’d be nice to have a hot blond in her early 20s prancing around my place lol



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and yes I think it’d be fun having a hot blond girl in her early 20s prancing around my condo but it’s a little more complicated than that lol

Prancing?

Is that what you are fantasising about?

Good grief.

I appreciate your idealistic view of the world but it’s not what you think.

So, treating people (including women) with basic decency, a bit of courtesy, bog standard manners and a modicum of respect is now considered "idealistic"?
 
Prancing?

Hahaha, this is all I can think of ...

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Prancing?

Is that what you are fantasising about?

Good grief.



So, treating people (including women) with basic decency, a bit of courtesy, bog standard manners and a modicum of respect is now considered "idealistic"?

Heck ya it’s a fantasy to have a hot young beautiful blond prancing around your condo.

Which guy wouldn’t like that?
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I don't understand how you can go from shopping at Zales, to planning a date with someone three hours away and then back to girl one. And you SERIOUSLY think you are ready for marriage? And that people who literally take years getting to know each other will end up divorced?

OMG.

If we divorce, we divorce. So what? There’s always others.

But it’d be fun getting married minimally just for the experience, have children, make family happy,etc

Those who are scared of divorce are more likely to divorce.

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It’s only 2 hours away and she said she would drive but I cancelled so it never happened. I’m glad I cancelled.
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Oh I see, this is how your ex is punishing you. This is diabolical.

Lol I’m very close with my ex. We are best friends.

no she’s not “punishing” me
 
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Heck ya it’s a fantasy to have a hot young beautiful blond prancing around your condo.

Which guy wouldn’t like that?
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If we divorce, we divorce. So what? There’s always others.

But it’d be fun getting married minimally just for the experience, have children, make family happy,etc

Those who are scared of divorce are more likely to divorce.

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It’s only 2 hours away and she said she would drive but I cancelled so it never happened. I’m glad I cancelled.
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Lol I’m very close with my ex. We are best friends.

no she’s not “punishing” me
Your view of relationships is extremely warped. Your view of respect and dignity is severely warped.
 
Heck ya it’s a fantasy to have a hot young beautiful blond prancing around your condo.

Again, this extraordinary verb: "prancing".

Horses prance.

Someone with whom one has a relationship that is rooted in respect, a relationship based on equality and partnership, does not imagine, or expect, one's partner - or SO - to be "prancing"; rather, prancing is a term used for staff, horses, or those whose function is to entertain you, or who are, in some way, deemed subservient to you, or lesser than you.

And the excruciating banality and cliché of desiring to have a relationship with someone solely on the grounds that they are: "Hot, young, beautiful, blond". Good grief.

As, @retta283 and @mollyc have also remarked, your view of relationships is shallow, superficial and severely warped, with little sense or awareness of the need for courtesy, dignity and respect in human relationships both personal and professional. (And yes, sexual, too).



Which guy wouldn’t like that?


Someone who has a more mature and respectful attitude to life and relationships.
 
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Ordinarily I'd also point out that young woman won't always be young and hot, but I doubt hieveryone actually cares about that since marriage is just a box to be checked and once she goes through some normal aging, he'll likely just replace her.
 
Ordinarily I'd also point out that young woman won't always be young and hot, but I doubt hieveryone actually cares about that since marriage is just a box to be checked and once she goes through some normal aging, he'll likely just replace her.

Doubtless, with another prancing, but hot, young, blond, creature.

The thing about prancing - irrespective of whether one describes it as something done by horse or human - is that it is not a natural gait. Horses walk, trot, canter or gallop - and some breeds have a fifth natural gait.

But, no horse prances naturally (and neither does a human); this is a trained gait, and one carried out as a performance to commands.

What a disgusting, depraved and disrespectful way to view one's fellow human beings - as people who are expected to perform to order.
 
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Ordinarily I'd also point out that young woman won't always be young and hot, but I doubt hieveryone actually cares about that since marriage is just a box to be checked and once she goes through some normal aging, he'll likely just replace her.

Idk know about that. Women who are hot look amazing for a LONG time these days. Look at our First Lady!!! She’s stunning
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Again, this extraordinary verb: "prancing".

Horses prance.

Someone with whom one has a relationship that is rooted in respect, a relationship based on equality and partnership, does not imagine, or expect, one's partner - or SO - to be "prancing"; rather, prancing is a term used for staff, horses, or those whose function is to entertain you, or who are, in some way, deemed subservient to you, or lesser than you.

And the excruciating banality and cliché of desiring to have a relationship with someone solely on the grounds that they are: "Hot, young, beautiful, blond". Good grief.

As, @retta283 and @mollyc have also remarked, your view of relationships is shallow, superficial and severely warped, with little sense or awareness of the need for courtesy, dignity and respect in human relationships both personal and professional. (And yes, sexual, too).






Someone who has a more mature and respectful attitude to life and relationships.

Well like I said before most people live in the real world.

I could sit around reading philosophy and memorizing fancy GRE words all day but I choose to live in the real world not in books and thought exercises.
 
Idk know about that. Women who are hot look amazing for a LONG time these days. Look at our First Lady!!! She’s stunning
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Well like I said before most people live in the real world.

I could sit around reading philosophy and memorizing fancy GRE words all day but I choose to live in the real world not in books and thought exercises.

But your idea of the real world is Instagram. And most IG "influencers" aren't real to start with - botox, injections, etc.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-of-instagram-face

And sure, some women stay hot even while aging, but most just turn into boring middle aged women (at least in looks, not necessarily in personality).
 
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Well like I said before most people live in the real world.

I could sit around reading philosophy and memorizing fancy GRE words all day but I choose to live in the real world not in books and thought exercises.

Seriously, if you live in the real world, you must be aware that the real world is not a "hot, young, blond prancing around my place/condo/apartment", for that is pure delusional fantasy.

Besides, the very words you use to express yourself are rather revealing of your attitudes and mindset towards young women, and the contempt (commingled with desire) with which you appear to view them.

Indeed, given that you appear to view books, learning (and, dare I say it) philosophy (dignity and respect) with equal contempt, I very much doubt that you "could sit around all day reading philosophy".

Anyway, the use of the verb "prancing" in such a context denotes ownership, possession, control - in other words, a marked preference for a most unequal relationship, and it is telling that you choose to use it.
 
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