Like I just don’t understand how this is even a debate
@Huntn @Clix Pix @Scepticalscribe
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@Scepticalscribe, do women really say “I’m successful at journalism so no baby for me!” lol like you can have a great career and a baby it’s not an either or thing
Nah this is false. Every woman except for I guess a very very few minority want children. It’s one of life’s greatest joys and girls who choose not to because they’d rather do “journalism” really have lived an incomplete life IMO
Umm last time I checked there's 7 billion people on earth and you yourself think there's a population crisis.
Apparently these women aren't solely doing "journalism" or whatever you think they are.
They're also having children; every single woman has kids minus an extremely small few which is statistically insignificant.
And frankly, it's their loss. They missed out on a big part of life.
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If a couple doesn't want to have children they are part of an extremely small minority and in the end it's only their loss.
Why someone wouldn't want to experience one of life's greatest joys is beyond the 99.99999% of couples who have children.
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Something tells me that the OP dislikes and despises "journalists" and journalism as much as he does philosophers and philosophy.
You may recall that in the sentence where I referred to journalists (and I am referring to women who have by-lines in respected publications that are nationally well regarded), I also referred to women working in diplomacy, politics, the public service, academia, as well as the police, none of which the OP bothered to mention.
Well apparently not because everything's going just fine *knock on wood*
I want the same things as everyone else: A house, a car, a job, a wife
I just want them a little bit better than average. A big house, a nice car, a great career, and hot blond wife lol
That's why I chose a career where there's opportunity to make a lot of money. That's why I choose to be friends with girls in their early 20s. And so on and so on.
Most people want a big life but don't know how to go about it or just don't care enough to try, which is fine- nothing wrong with that.
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And if you are inferring that women aren't smart enough to do "journalism" and have children too is frankly very condescending not to mention untrue
@Scepticalscribe
Sneering at "journalism" again. Dear me.
No, "most people" (which is about as numerically literate as the OP's absurd and silly reference to 99.999999999% of women desiring to have children, no; that is not the case, above all, with educated and economically independent women, a significant minority of whom, especially in northern Europe, choose not to have children) do not want "a big life" but a fairly happy, one.
Reasonably happy would include being employed in a job that gave professional satisfaction, while being adequately and fairly remunerated, and close relationships based on respect, affection and love, which allow for space to engage in personal interests and to develop as a person.
Many people don't have families of origin (biological) or even perhaps adoptive, for whatever reason, and yet as adults they may or may not choose to create one for themselves, even if there is no biological relationship..... Friends can also be "family," in nearly every sense of the word, too. Reality is that there are also those who just have never met the person with whom they would choose to spend the rest of their lives, or, indeed there are also those who prefer to be more solitary as well, and that is their decision.
So, since your idea of "the normal thing" is "marriage and family," you're really casually dismissing a percentage of the population who handles their lives somewhat differently.
For you does that "normal thing" of "marriage and family" go beyond the stereotypical man and woman, or does it allow for people of the same sex or people who don't specifically identify with one gender or another to also have marriage and families of their own, too?
Excellent post, and one with which I agree completely.
Besides, your earlier question of the OP, where you asked him how he would react to the challenge of rearing a child that was not a "perfect 10", or even a child that was far less than physical and flawless perfection, remains unanswered.
I didn’t think
@throAU was being serious.
He seems more shallow than me.
At least I want a monogamous relationship with one girl and family just like normal people.
I just want to do it with someone hot lol.
And the good news is that girls stay hot for a LONG time these days.
As we’ve discussed, just look at the First Lady. She’s stunning!!!
Unless you want the thread derailed into PRSI, I suggest that you desist from constantly bringing up the First Lady.
Nevertheless, as a woman, - a European woman, - for what it is worth, I will put my views on record, and say that I do not consider her attractive or worth emulating; rather, to my mind, Michelle Obama was an extraordinarily attractive - and accomplished - middle aged woman.
The OP's keen insight into women is only matched by his superlative knowledge of math and statistics ...
*snort*
Even this thread has been used to amble off into peripheral troll-bait topics like having kids and Melania Trump. I guess he's up early so he can get the produce out to the sidewalk ...
Troll bait, indeed.
Actually, I am in agreement with you.
