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This is why the iPhone 5 is being delayed, and why Apple wants to stop Samsung...

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Hal Jordan said:
All hate aside, you truly have to be a blind fanboy (of any brand) to not take this thing seriously as an option to be your next phone.
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Not true at all. I've used it all from windows mobile 5 and up, palm os, android from the g1 to the Evo, web os, blackberry. Pretty much everything besides nokia's and wp7 offerings. And I will NEVER go back to android.
What's funny is I was a true apple hater, but after my 1st gen iPod touch outlasted all my phones I had the give the iPhone a try and I'm hooked.

With Build quality and os stability being the two biggest factors for me, android is not an option. I was tired of HAVING to constantly tweak, hack, and mod my phones just to get them to perform, behave, or look how I wanted. I couldnt keep a steady Rom for more than 3 days. And android would always crap out on me with lockups or resets when I actually needed it ( navigation, answering an important phonecall, taking down a number). IMO moto is the only user of android with decent build quality but their phones are fugly, and cameras suck

Not a fanboy of any brand but I speak from experience when I say no thanks to a phone running android anytime soon.
 
newone757 said:
Not true at all. I've used it all from windows mobile 5 and up, palm os, android from the g1 to the Evo, web os, blackberry. Pretty much everything besides nokia's and wp7 offerings. And I will NEVER go back to android.
What's funny is I was a true apple hater, but after my 1st gen iPod touch outlasted all my phones I had the give the iPhone a try and I'm hooked.

With Build quality and os stability being the two biggest factors for me, android is not an option. I was tired of HAVING to constantly tweak, hack, and mod my phones just to get them to perform, behave, or look how I wanted. I couldnt keep a steady Rom for more than 3 days. And android would always crap out on me with lockups or resets when I actually needed it ( navigation, answering an important phonecall, taking down a number). IMO moto is the only user of android with decent build quality but their phones are fugly, and cameras suck

Not a fanboy of any brand but I speak from experience when I say no thanks to a phone running android anytime soon.
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can i ask if you've jail-broken your iphone?
 
  1. Samsung never support their hardware beyond the first couple of months and even then it is very poor.
  2. Samsung customer service is a shadow of Apples.
  3. Build quality is nowhere near the level of Apple.
  4. It is android, so no games to play!
  5. It is android, so expect security holes and breaches due to their very insecure market place.
  6. Apple know how to market, they know the consumer and realise after sales is just as important as making the initial one.
 
Risco said:
  1. Samsung never support their hardware beyond the first couple of months and even then it is very poor.
  2. Samsung customer service is a shadow of Apples.
  3. Build quality is nowhere near the level of Apple.
  4. It is android, so no games to play!
  5. It is android, so expect security holes and breaches due to their very insecure market place.
  6. Apple know how to market, they know the consumer and realise after sales is just as important as making the initial one.
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Having owned and still own a few Samsung mobile products..

1. Agree
2. I guess... never had to use them too much.
3. I'll beg to differ... my 3GS is a piece of crap from a build quality perspective. My Samsung Focus smoked it on build quality.
4. You must be blind. There are thousands of games on Android. Including all the Angry Bird variations.
5. True in some cases, but not as bad as the media would have you believe.
6. Agreed... Apple is the master of marketing. You could say their marketing department has a B.S. in BS. They could sell snow to an Eskimo. And the Eskimo would think it was the best snow ever made. ;)
 
BlindMellon said:
has anyone done a similar comparison with the new super amoled plus?
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That's the old Galaxy S, not the new S2. ;)
And I can guarantee 90% of the people looking at both phones from a normal viewing distance couldn't tell the difference.

I know my Atrix is a pentile matrix display, but I can't get my eyes close enough to the screen to see the underlying matrix.
You need a macro lens, as Engadget used, to see that level of detail.
 
macingman said:
Specs mean nothing to the average consumer. All the want is a cool phone which looks good. Functionality comes second for most people, that's why iPhone will always win because iPhone and Apple in general is cool and in fashion at the moment.

I have studied these sort of effects in consumers briefly at school.
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Sadly, you are correct.
 
macingman said:
Specs mean nothing to the average consumer.
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This excuse is getting really old. It's just lies. After all at the University in my city, Droid X, and HTC Android phones rule.

Then there's the ever popular iPhone which is the property of every hot looking woman on campus.

They like the bejeweled cases, the small size that easily fits in their pocket or purse, and have no need for anything but a cool looking sexting phone.

The Droids are a Mans phone. So Man Up fanboys...ha..ha...ha...ha...ha...

Surely your hands aren't that small?
 
rjohnstone said:
That's the old Galaxy S, not the new S2. ;)
And I can guarantee 90% of the people looking at both phones from a normal viewing distance couldn't tell the difference.

I know my Atrix is a pentile matrix display, but I can't get my eyes close enough to the screen to see the underlying matrix.
You need a macro lens, as Engadget used, to see that level of detail.
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i'll just leave this right here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Super-AMOLED-Plus-vs-Super-AMOLED-vs-Retina-Display_id18088

oh, had to drop this comment from the responses here, it's lol funny:

wait wait wait wait....not 3.9! That's not how crapple works my friend. If anything they will go with a 3.6" on the ifone 5, then next year a 3.7 then the year after 3.8 THEN, three +years from now a 3.9. Just hold your horses son, don't push the fruit company too hard now. You ask for too much and predict technology that is unheard of yet. DOH!
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james92se said:
Bashing or not, the OP has a point.

I love my iPhone (and all my previous ones - original, 3G, and 3GS) as much as the next guy but it's been 4 years now with no major/fundamental update. Yes, the iPhones have gotten faster and have had better specs and whatnot but it's essentially the same phone now going on 4 years now. I realize there will be no drastic changes in iOS for brand imaging sake, but still. Yes, iOS "works" but 4 years now with essentially the same thing is getting somewhat dull for lack of a better word.

Regardless of whether or not the overall phone size itself grows, the iPhone 5 desperately needs a bigger screen and IMO a new "look" to iOS. At least change the lock screen or spruce the "look" up some. The universal home button and function of iOS can (and should) stay the same, but it definitely needs more flash factor IMO.

I fully expect the iPhone 5 to simply be an iPhone 4 "s" or some such, and so basically we'll be going on 5 years of essentially the same thing. I can't say that's not going to give me wandering eyes..

*edit* And this is all just my opinion. Again, I love Apple and the iPhone 4 so I don't want to hear insults or jabs. I'm just wishing and hoping Apple blows us all away again with the iPhone 5 even though I know they won't.
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This sums up my opinion perfectly. I've had every iphone since the original and just simply got bored with it. I have an android phone now (for a little over a month) and have enjoyed the change. Now I still love apple (I have a mbp and apple tv2) and absolutely would come back to the iphone again IF they make more than minor tweaks to IOS.
 
I will take total user experience (great user interface + great handset design) over specs anyday. But I guess that makes me a Apple fanboy, and I'm fine with that. :D
 
james92se said:
Bashing or not, the OP has a point.

I love my iPhone (and all my previous ones - original, 3G, and 3GS) as much as the next guy but it's been 4 years now with no major/fundamental update. Yes, the iPhones have gotten faster and have had better specs and whatnot but it's essentially the same phone now going on 4 years now. I realize there will be no drastic changes in iOS for brand imaging sake, but still. Yes, iOS "works" but 4 years now with essentially the same thing is getting somewhat dull for lack of a better word.

Regardless of whether or not the overall phone size itself grows, the iPhone 5 desperately needs a bigger screen and IMO a new "look" to iOS. At least change the lock screen or spruce the "look" up some. The universal home button and function of iOS can (and should) stay the same, but it definitely needs more flash factor IMO.

I fully expect the iPhone 5 to simply be an iPhone 4 "s" or some such, and so basically we'll be going on 5 years of essentially the same thing. I can't say that's not going to give me wandering eyes..

*edit* And this is all just my opinion. Again, I love Apple and the iPhone 4 so I don't want to hear insults or jabs. I'm just wishing and hoping Apple blows us all away again with the iPhone 5 even though I know they won't.
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+1. Took the words right outta my mouth. Did any of you even watch the video the OP posted? The phone in it looks awesome, stupendously fast with some great UI and touch features.

Apple need to shape up, stop playing the specs game, and stop being 2 steps behind the Jailbreakers.
 
According to Eldar Murtazin's website the iPhone 5's reason for delay is not SGS II, in fact Apple is not suing Samsung over the old or current phones, the talk is about Samsung Galaxy S III vs iPhone 5, both will be out in fall.

Galaxy S III is supposed to have some new screen technology that Apple wanted and Samsung did not give it to them, hence Apple sued to get leverage.

Samsung is moving to 6-8 month period between flagships, no one can match that.

However with all that said and all that incredible technology packed into Galaxy S II, it still runs on Android, an OS that doesn't even have a hardware accelerated UI. Android is very far behind iOS.
 
Vitruviux said:
However with all that said and all that incredible technology packed into Galaxy S II, it still runs on Android, an OS that doesn't even have a hardware accelerated UI. Android is very far behind iOS.
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most people out buying phones have no idea what you're even talking about. all the people i know with new android phones would beg to differ about android being far behind ios.
 
BlindMellon said:
most people out buying phones have no idea what you're even talking about. all the people i know with new android phones would beg to differ about android being far behind ios.
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Certainly doesn't stop a lot of Android proponents from not knowing (at all) what they're talking about, too:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914

Any sort of hardware accelerated UI functionality was introduced in Honeycomb (not on the level of Core Animation in iOS), and obviously not ported yet to phones.
 
I agree with some of the stuff that people are posting about Android and iOS, but I think the pros and cons of iOS make the iPhone more likable to me compared to the pros and cons of Android. For one, I'll get updates for three years. New features ... yay.
 
I'm very happy to read (although I don't believe it) that Apples taking its time.

Last year they rushed the glass phone to beat the onslaught of Android releases and screwed up with Antennagate.

Perhaps this time Apple will get it right. I want an iPhone that works well.
 
walie said:
initial reviews have been very positive so far

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s2-930907/review
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review-26148446/
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WOW!! Thanks for those links. These must be some of the first professional reviews from Tech sites. Very thorough reviews. The phone is AMAZING!!! And that display just oozes Tech On The Bleeding Edge. Drool...Nothing comes close.
Up to now, most of the reviews have been early user reviews. It seems this phone is really impressing everyone that holds it. And the battery life is awesome as well. I'm not shocked at all. Looks like I made the right choice. Can't wait to get mine. And they say specs don't mean anything. LOL....

Found a few more:

http://mattsgreen.com/2011/04/i-have-a-galaxy-s-ii/

http://www.jrin.net/2011_04_24/samsung-galaxy-s-2-in-depth-review
 
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