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Thunderbolt 3 Ports on Right Side of 13-Inch MacBook Pro Have Reduced PCI Express Bandwidth
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Believe me. The voting has already begun. There's a huge slap in the face coming Apple's way. Let's talk in 2 years and see how this MBP 2016 snafu has worked in Apple's favour. If they don't bow to users' will in the next iteration of MBP or try to make amends, 2016 is going to be remembered as a watershed year.
The general point is that competing products are often at similar price points. Microsoft now competes in the premium hardware segment and they ask for similar prices. The Surface Book uses the 15W Kaby Lake chips vs. the 28W and 45W Skylake chips that the Touch Bar MacBook Pros use. Granted, it has tablet functionality but that's a difference in design philosophy more than anything else.
And although base technology gets cheaper over time, it's a given that as technology gets cheaper, it increases demand for even more technology (SSDs were a novelty 8 years ago, largely absent from mainstream Windows PCs as recently as 4 years ago, and now we're talking 3.1 Gbps bandwidth in a $1499 MacBook Pro!). All else equal, someone who had $2499 to spend in 2004 was spending the equivalent of $3100 today. Yes, it's possible to get a $200 Chromebook that runs circles around a 2004 notebook, but someone with $3100 can easily afford a 15" MacBook Pro with the latest and greatest display technology and I/O.
Apple has consistently achieved 35-39% margins on its products, which is a testament to its brand. I don't see anything in the new MacBook Pros that harms Apple's brand.
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My guess is that it will sell reasonably well. The main complaint seems to be that it is about $200 overpriced. That's easily fixable if Mac sales continue to slide. Most people will get over the legacy port issue very quickly. An adapter or hub is a one-time purchase, and there are plenty of choices.
Yes, yes, Apple has never done anything right and will shutting its door any day now. If I had a share of stock for every time I've heard that Chicken Little story… oh, wait, I essentially do.
What's so hard to comprehend? When you're dropping thousands of dollars on a "pro" laptop that ships with substandard hardware just so it can be a little lighter and a litter thinner you should not also be asked to drop even more on dongles so you can use your existing accessories that happen to make use of industry standard ports.
You can not take an iPhone 7 or iPad Pro and connect it to these new machines without a dongle. If that isn't the very definition of stupid I don't know what is.
Apple is out of the laptop and desktop business. They are in the botique computer business. You get to vastly over pay for substandard hardware that looks great and costs an arm and a leg and isn't compatible with most of your industry standard accessories.
Thanks but no thanks. I'll grab a Dell that costs $1000 less with better hardware and industry standard ports.
Apple has jumped the shark. OS X is a better OS but it's not worth an extra $1000.
No. I haven't plugged my iPhone into a Mac to charge it in at least two years. I use airdrop and iCloud to transfer files, I backup wirelessly. I use a dock at home and work with their own power supplies to charge my iPhone. I travel with a charging cube in my backpack, which I use to charge my iPhone. I dislike charging my MBP when on the go because of how cumbersome the charging brick and cable are, so I would only plug that in if I absolutely had to, and even then I wouldn't presume to charge my phone at the same time which would only slow down the whole process.
I have zero need to plug my iPhone into my MBP. That's likely the norm, not the exception. Certainly Apple has demonstrated that they are aware of the needs of their customers by providing a 3.5mm adapter with the iPhone 7, something I think was a mistake, and something I don't personally need, yet they have enough information that it was needed to provide for free, and sell for a substantial subsidy over their usual pricing margins. Their routine polling -- whether MBP customers use the headphone jack among their most recent -- gives them insight into the wider use behaviors of their customers. I'd argue they have sufficient insight that most customers aren't charging their iPhones via their MacBooks, and those who do can buy what they need. At the end of the day, Apple is a business, and there's no reason to expect them to give away something most don't need. The very fact the Retina MacBook was released without a USB-C to Lightning cable available, and continues to be sold without one, suggests there's no great need for one, which is likely to be the case going forward.
If Apple introduced the new 15" MBP without the Touch Bar and then said, "We also have this multitouch display bar to help speedup your work efficiency, and it also includes Apple Pay and Touch ID, but it costs an extra $200," I'd have still pre-ordered the same model.
Potentially but that's years off. I suspect Macs will always have at least one physical port. Imagine a 12" MacBook with a Touch Bar and wireless charging and that's probably Apple's vision of the Mac in 2026. We'll see.
Apple hasn't required a PC for use with an iPhone or iPad since 2009. If you want to plug yours into a Mac for some reason, that's your business. There's no reason for Apple to support that behavior if it's not necessary.
You must also consider then targeted average incomes, the technology offered in such products at the time was more advanced at reasonable prices than what is currently offered at higher entry price-points, and the increasing amount of profit margins.
1) You're saying inflation doesn't exist?
2) Your argument would make sense if you're talking about the same, old parts without any increase in performance or capacity, and no radical jumps in the states of the art.
That's not what I wrote. Also, no. And, no.
See Post 564. Also, economics. Great to learn.
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Thank you for having the "courage" in stating what many are thinking.
1) This is one thing that can directly be blamed on the thinness. They would currently need a thicker top casing or potentially a much more expensive camera module (if it even exists) to get to 1080p (or 2160p) for the FaceTime camera. Is going to a thicker display casing worth getting a better front-facing camera? For me, it's not. I tape mine up anyway and really dislike any sort of video chat, but I know plenty of others that love to video chat so they probably would want a better camera.
2) Is 720p really that bad for a close up of someone's face or is this just a "well something else has it so Apple should have it, too"? Why doesn't this apply to other things like USB-C. Those that rallying against the new MBP should be trying to get their PC vendor of choice to start adopting it, not bitching that Apple is moving into the future.
Most likely it'll miss their own sales target for the rest of 2016 and the first quarter of 2017. My guess is a new MBP is already in the pipeline with specs that match the price tag.
It's actually very easy to comprehend. I now have one charger for my macbook and my phone. No dongle, no extra cables, no extra chargers. No need for old USB-ports. Yes, it would have been great if the usb-c to lighting cable would ship with the macbook(-pro) or the phone. But the $19 is not a big deal
Fixed that for you. Also, calm yourself down. You're going to have a stroke if you keep carrying on with people in this manner. Lighten up, life's too short to fight over a first world problem.
Not really as Intel doesn't have a significantly faster chip in the pipeline for next year...
Altering the context of people's posts. The telltale sign of the troll.
When you finally look up the definition of inflation to see that is does, in fact, exist, you should also look into how the relatively cost of the PC has dropped considerably since it was first introduced. Note: Cost ≠ price. You should also look into the rapid increase in capabilities over the years, and if possible try to use critical thinking to see how this affects the utility. That last one requires some critical thinking so maybe you should ignore that last one.