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Without even weighing in an opinion on this specific case, I’m thrilled with my data being more difficult for companies to track. Every little bit helps. If you need that for a product, I don’t want your product.
 
Well, looks like Apple will now offer the "Always allow" option. (article updated)

I see several apps that still have the always on selection under privacy/location settings, and Bluetooth seems to be on or off.
What is Apple going to add that's different than what still exists? Apple doesn't need to back track on privacy or taking power & knowledge away from phone owners when an app gets to see location. If it's the phone owner's choice that's fine, but it also should not be their only choice and be a first time set up one and done deal to be forgotten by phone owner.

Does Tile allow independent audits on security and who they share data with even if not including personal info?
 
The tile app is a piece of crap. It constantly warns you about not having access to location, and not being able to run in the background. Neither of these permissions are necessary to find your keys. Tile is only asking for these unnecessary, battery-draining, privacy-slurping permissions so they can use your device to sell a service to other people at your expense.
They are necessary to help you find your keys/whatever if you left them at Starbucks after you slurped down your sugar bomb soy latte. You might want to learn how the system works before crowning yourself an expert, Rando.
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Does Tile allow independent audits on security and who they share data with even if not including personal info?
Yes. And it is not shared, just ask them.
 
It constantly warns you about not having access to location, and not being able to run in the background. Neither of these permissions are necessary to find your keys. Tile is only asking for these unnecessary, battery-draining, privacy-slurping permissions so they can use your device to sell a service to other people at your expense.

That is incorrect. Having Location Services on is a key part of how Tile's features work, and those features are how Tile differentiates themselves from "non-smart" key ring finders that have been around for decades.
 
They are necessary to help you find your keys/whatever if you left them at Starbucks after you slurped down your sugar bomb soy latte

How far do you get w/out your keys after you leave Starbucks that you need a Tile to figure out where they are?
 
My tile has a replaceable battery. Do you really expect apple to offer the same? Have you heard of the Apple Watch? AirPods? iPads? Good luck with that

Apple Watch: Rechargeable. AirPods: Rechargable.

Not quite sure of the point of your reply.
 
We’re going to start a business providing goods or apps or services for Apple users. What’s the first thing we should consider?

At some point in the future, Apple could introduce their own version of these goods or apps or services. So how do we plan for that?

If you can’t answer that question intelligently, don’t start the business.

When your barriers to entry are low or near-zero, good luck. #china
 
Assuming the apple tags are around the corner, Tile knows the end is near. Just a matter of deciding to go out with a whimper, or like we see now by kicking and screaming

I do have to say, once iOS 13 came out, the Tile experience is quite a bit worse. They seem to have removed the always know my location feature so now it takes a while to even find my keys when the app opens, likely because of all the location changes.

Tile has seriously changed my life. No more hunting for keys in a couch cushion, added them to some AirPods on a keyring so I don't have to spend time fumbling for them. It cut doesn't on those random times I'd spend many minutes looking for keys and stuff.

I do think Apple should have worked with developers to enable those always on features instead of just breaking many people's experiences, then adding an easy way "at a later date". I don't think congress is really the solution for that though.
 
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Maybe if Tile wants to control how they help people find their devices, they should make the devices people are using? Not just the things that attach to those devices.
Hey kids! Thinking of building an application or even a piece of cool hardware? Cool! In order to do so, you'll only need to build a hardware product, usually a phone or a laptop, and then build an operating system on top of it. Don't worry, there's plenty of room in the phone market for competitors!

Coming up next: what web developers need to know about becoming an Internet service provider.
 
Tile just knows they have little time left to be in business... I don’t blame them for being desperate but that’s all tile is doing
 
I might be sympathetic if Tile didn't suck. I try using these things to track the location of trade show shipping crates but the simple lack of adoption is making them essentially useless. it makes much more sense for Apple to do this themselves because millions of iOS devices could be reporting the location of my tracking tags instead of just the handful of Tile customers who happen to keep the app running.
 
Apple fans are deluded

Apple changes their software to introduce new rules that break third party functionality, exclude their own products from following the same rules, and the response is just "this is not anti-competitive because Tile could make their own phones"
What Tile functionality did Apple break?
 
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I like to think it is security, but it is control of their product, software, and use of both. They could be like any other company and say, while it is under warranty you must only use apps from the store. When it is out of warranty, you can do anything you like with restrictions (restrictions that break the intended use, the software, or security), when out of warranty no more updates, or help of any kind. However, if they do that then many people will have these frankenstein phones, with hacked software that could threaten the integrity of their network, and or software advantage.

By having control of the product from birth to death, you have a better chance of the best user experience, and happier customers. As we can see which model has won over the years, the open free model, or the controlled model. As they said in the movie "The Matrix", the problem is choice. So even if you have no choice, to give the appearance of choice is what we have now.

I don't feel any goverment can tell a free market company how to do business, and how to make their product without either incentives, or tax breaks because they are not taking on market risk. A successful company has great products, and a great user experience. The consumer has the choice to choose, what they purchase, and that choice good or bad is the risk one has of purchase.
 
I love the idea of an Apple tile.
My only concern is the price...

$99 each?
 
What Tile functionality did Apple break?

If not broke, how about severely damaged? By making it much more difficult for a User to grant Tile always on location access, Tile's ability to crowd source location of Tiles is neutered. Yes, Tile can give users instructions how to turn this back on, but most users won't do it. (Why do I care about someone else's Tile? PRIVACY!) (To be far, Tile was always at the mercy of the number of users that had their app installed, which was likely a VERY small percent of iPhone users.)

The big question, if Apple introduces their version will they abide by the EXACT same rules that they are making Tile. No default to Always On, no using existing settings (ie. just because I have location services turn on on my phone, doesn't mean I want location services turned on by default for the Tags.) Will crowd sourcing device be turned off by default on my phone and only I can explicitly turn it on?

If not, then Apple is no playing with a level playing field.
 
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Busses and trains will take you miles. Not everyone drives a Tesla.

The image you paint of the person who "slurps down sugar bomb soy lattes", gets around on buses (notice the correct pluralization) and trains, and has to use a Tile to combat an apparent, chronic forgetfulness reminds of a few Silicon Valley episodes.

Disclaimer: I drive a Model S. You called it.
 
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“On a related note, I feel bad for all the small buggy companies that Ford put out of business.”

Apple's OSs have been quite *buggy* in the past decade!

I like Apple, but their “predatory”, self-serving actions are going to lead to dramatic legislation leveling the playing field. That'll rein in Amazon even more...
 
And now, the end is near
And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I'll say it clear
I'll state my case, of which I'm certain
I've lived a life that's full
I traveled each and every highway
And more, much more than this
I did it Steve's way
 
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