Tim Cook and Ivanka Trump Visiting Idaho School District Today

[GermanSuplex]

That’s ‘hilarious’ but the onus is on you to present evidence. If you have none, which you don’t, this doesn’t hold up.

It also shows with your hatred towards everyone with the last name trump and who supports him, you can’t even take a brief moment to appreciate she is focusing on education sector, even when with the ‘apple messiah’ himself none other than Mr Tim Cook

Great, she doesn't need a white house job to go with Tim Cook somewhere to promote education. No, I don't like Trump. It seems to bother you as much Trump does me. I can tell you a lot of reasons why Trump bothers me - legit reasons. This is a forum for opinions, debate etc. Perhaps you may care to tell us why it bothers you so much that some are bothered by Trump.

You have provided no evidence about your 'hilarious' joke either. A couple of pics and a gif of her dancing on Ellen on or something? Oh yeah, great standards for proof.

 

[thadoggfather]

Great, she doesn't need a white house job to go with Tim Cook somewhere to promote education. No, I don't like Trump. It seems to bother you as much Trump does me. I can tell you a lot of reasons why Trump bothers me - legit reasons. This is a forum for opinions, debate etc. Perhaps you may care to tell us why it bothers you so much that some are bothered by Trump.

You have provided no evidence about your 'hilarious' joke either. A couple of pics and a gif of her dancing on Ellen on or something? Oh yeah, great standards for proof.

It’s the best proof you’ll get shy of directly seeing her nude. And you seem to be sure it’s wrong yet you’ve disregarded the guardian article where obama’s Nanny is a transgender and he reveals in his book she was very important in his life. You also disregarded the two YouTube videos I posted. Not a gif.

I completely disagree I think trump upsets you more than anything possibly could. I enjoy discourse. I also just stand my ground when confronted with the same thing over and over and over again. Because that’s what (some) people do.

I applaud macrumors for not being a liberal driven, censoring dumpster fire but at the same time i question why this person is still a contributor. Because he brings it up every time. Not assuming positive intent when it’s always Unrelated to the thread topic.

 

[DougFNJ]

There is a difference between humility and apologizing. Acknowledging that the US is not perfect* is not an apology. And nothing Obama said in those speeches was incorrect.
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*Indeed, electing an amoral TV game show host as president pretty much proves the point.

Humbly apologizing.

And by the way, since when did anybody seriously start holding our politicians to a higher standard? The last President went from being a community organizer, to a Senator with no track record, to a president in 18 months. The one before that was an Alcoholic oil tycoon that came across as stupid, and should we get into the high moral standards of Bill Clinton? Thank God social media and TMZ didn’t exist when the squeaky clean JFK was President or he may not had been president. That was the last true democrat there that didn’t just say he was for the working man, but actually was. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.....I don’t think this country could stray further away from that statement anymore. We are actually electing socialists to positions of power and believing that we could trust the government to take care of us cradle to grave when they can’t balance the budget without shutting down the government.

Spare us all, please.

 

[thadoggfather]

Humbly apologizing.

And by the way, since when did anybody seriously start holding our politicians to a higher standard? The last President went from being a community organizer, to a Senator with no track record, to a president in 18 months. The one before that was an Alcoholic oil tycoon that came across as stupid, and should we get into the high moral standards of Bill Clinton? Thank God social media and TMZ didn’t exist when the squeaky clean JFK was President or he may not had been president. That was the last true democrat there that didn’t just say he was for the working man, but actually was. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.....I don’t think this country could stray further away from that statement anymore. We are actually electing socialists to positions of power and believing that we could trust the government to take care of us cradle to grave when they can’t balance the budget without shutting down the government.

Spare us all, please.

Some people need to be talked down to, “presidentially”, and given unsolicited lectures of how the American people have continued to be a disappointment, and have everything dressed up and spoken in euphemistic terms, placing their president, a flawed man no matter who it is by nature of being human, in their heart above God to feel some semblance of complete.

Given that, I t’s no surprise trump’s admittedly comparatively abrasive candid and non dressed up language is an assault to these sheltered folks who live in a world of fantasy, and in the absence of that, are relentlessly hostile.

Different strokes

 

[spacemnspiff]

I would gladly go in Tim's place she is a Hottie!

That would be equivalent to saying that you take a mannequin or a blow up doll just because it looks 'Hot' to you.

try Ocasio Cortes or even Gary Johnson . Ivanka happened to be a successful woman prior to he current duties.

I know, she was great a picking colors of clothes, nail polish and lipstick.

And let me guess you voted for Hilary? That’s like calling the kettle black.

Isn't it more like being shown one's face in the mirror and changing your tune when shown the same in a different light?

 

[DougFNJ]

That would be equivalent to saying that you take a mannequin or a blow up doll just because it looks 'Hot' to you.

I know, she was great a picking colors of clothes, nail polish and lipstick.

Isn't it more like being shown one's face in the mirror and changing your tune when shown the same in a different light?

You do know she graduated with high honors from Wharton School of business, right? Are you implying that an attractive woman can’t be smart or good at business? Or because of her father she is automatically labeled? Your tone could be seen as incredibly sexist, jus sayin.

 

[GermanSuplex]

It’s the best proof you’ll get shy of directly seeing her nude. And you seem to be sure it’s wrong yet you’ve disregarded the guardian article where obama’s Nanny is a transgender and he reveals in his book she was very important in his life. You also disregarded the two YouTube videos I posted. Not a gif.

I completely disagree I think trump upsets you more than anything possibly could. I enjoy discourse. I also just stand my ground when confronted with the same thing over and over and over again. Because that’s what (some) people do.

I applaud macrumors for not being a liberal driven, censoring dumpster fire but at the same time i question why this person is still a contributor. Because he brings it up every time. Not assuming positive intent when it’s always Unrelated to the thread topic.

Lots of things upset me more than Trump, but they aren't really pertinent to this thread, this sub-forum, or the forums as a whole.

You're upset when people post on the subject matter, but not in a way you like, then get mad when its about something else you find unrelated.

The other subject is good for a chuckle - because its a joke and because you can't call people out for their avatar choice and then turn around and get taken seriously with that post.

 

[curtvaughan]

Yeah, but more can't stand Hillary.

Hmm - Hillary isn't the president, so your point, if it were true, is? BTW, more people voted for Hillary than Trump - not that it mattered.

 

[DougFNJ]

Hmm - Hillary isn't the president, so your point, if it were true, is? BTW, more people voted for Hillary than Trump - not that it mattered.

Ahhh the old argument for killing the electoral college. First, it’s established to prevent regional candidates from winning national elections. Remove California and Trump wins both popular and electoral. Remove the electoral college, and just 4 states elect our future presidents moving forward.

Your rhetoric is a selective use of modern history. In 1992, Bill Clinton won 43% of the popular vote, Far from the majority. Trump won 46%. Bill Clinton was re-elected with 49%, still not the majority.

Let’s go back further,

Closest presidential election in history was JFK with just under 50% of the vote, that election was decided by 112,000 votes.

Lincoln was elected with just under 40% of the vote.

In the end, it doesn’t make these guys any less presidents, these are just useless fun facts to support or argue against a voting system that will never change.

 

[mabaker]

This is a wrong timeline. Get me out of here.

 

[RichardMZhlubb]

its amazing you're a contributor on macrumors!

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...dition-this-time.2137380/page-4#post-26587991

Every time you bring it up, which you have found it your duty to do so, in a poor attempt to make me look foolish, but only to people with Trump avatars and people who have long since made up their minds despite any and all evidence, I will *again* re-refer you to the same post.. and I will also, *once again*, not back down either because your mob mentality attempts are futile

You havent provided counter evidence to any of it, ever, but yet you seem obsessed with the subject-- perhaps to an unhealthy extent if I'm just being completely honest.

Get some fresh air my dude. And stop thinking That by trying to throw shade, over something I stand behind, you will silence me.

Its ridiculously unbecoming.

It’s also not a knock to transgender people or anything of the sort. If it were I would be banned here. It’s just presenting facts and evidence and going where they take me, however uncomfortable and contrary it may feel. Emotions don’t factor into it.

I just find it funny that you’re complaining about people being “deranged” in opposing Trump when you have such a genuinely bizarre opinion of the Obamas.

 

[BuffaloTF]

CNN neutral lmfao

It's amusing that people that have never watched CNN come to this conclusion, after having simply been told it isn't by the shadiest news organization on the planet. One that is literally banned in most countries because they do not tell the truth. One whose viewers know LESS about actual events than people that watch literally no news at all.

 

[jkcerda]

It's amusing that people that have never watched CNN come to this conclusion, after having simply been told it isn't by the shadiest news organization on the planet. One that is literally banned in most countries because they do not tell the truth. One whose viewers know LESS about actual events than people that watch literally no news at all.

used to watch it till I noticed how biased they were. same with faux news.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Ahhh the old argument for killing the electoral college. First, it’s established to prevent regional candidates from winning national elections. Remove California and Trump wins both popular and electoral. Remove the electoral college, and just 4 states elect our future presidents moving forward.

Your rhetoric is a selective use of modern history. In 1992, Bill Clinton won 43% of the popular vote, Far from the majority. Trump won 46%. Bill Clinton was re-elected with 49%, still not the majority.

Let’s go back further,

Closest presidential election in history was JFK with just under 50% of the vote, that election was decided by 112,000 votes.

Lincoln was elected with just under 40% of the vote.

In the end, it doesn’t make these guys any less presidents, these are just useless fun facts to support or argue against a voting system that will never change.

It’s a dumb outdated system for presidential elections. One person, one vote, most votes wins. You can’t “remove California” anymore than you can remove Montana or New York or Florida.

What worked centuries ago doesn’t always work today.

Nobody said anyone who lost the popular vote was less of a president; but in the future, it’s not fair to penalize people in big cities or more populous states even if they have more electoral votes.

 

[thadoggfather]

I just find it funny that you’re complaining about people being “deranged” in opposing Trump when you have such a genuinely bizarre opinion of the Obamas.

‘I just find it funny’ you bring up a subject I do not, the same one, every time expecting different output, output that is guttural and not rooted in any semblance of evidence but simply to validate your obviously insecurely formed political bias, and then you’re like “why you talking about the Obama’s” when it predictably doesn’t go as planned.

And I’d also like to point out not once out of these many times we’ve had a circular non debate, At your solicitation, Do you critique And counter explicitly material that I’ve presented (as I didn’t form this opinion out of thin air like you’re insistent on suggesting, sitting in the corner of a room, but based on E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E) but instead turn to personal insults that I’m simply not allowed to have an opinion, which differs from your emotions construed as an opinion.

*that* is what’s bizarre. As if someone being transgender is beyond the realm of belief, because transgender people don’t exist at all by your logic. Right?

frankly - You oughta be ashamed of your irrational and obsessive behavior but I know that message will go to the wind

 

[4jasontv]

It’s a dumb outdated system for presidential elections. One person, one vote, most votes wins. You can’t “remove California” anymore than you can remove Montana or New York or Florida.

What worked centuries ago doesn’t always work today.

Nobody said anyone who lost the popular vote was less of a president; but in the future, it’s not fair to penalize people in big cities or more populous states even if they have more electoral votes.

The president may be voted by citizens but his job is to represent the states. Wyoming deserves the same representation as California. Not on a per-capita basis but on a each-are-a-state basis. If there is anything wrong with the electoral collage it is that New York and Vermont have different electoral votes.

 

[RichardMZhlubb]

‘I just find it funny’ you bring up a subject I do not, the same one, every time expecting different output, output that is guttural and not rooted in any semblance of evidence but simply to validate your obviously insecurely formed political bias, and then you’re like “why you talking about the Obama’s” when it predictably doesn’t go as planned.

And I’d also like to point out not once out of these many times we’ve had a circular non debate, At your solicitation, Do you critique And counter explicitly material that’s I’ve presented but instead turn to personal insults that I’m simply not allowed to have an opinion, which based on evidence, differs from your emotions construed as an opinion.

*that* is what’s bizarre

frankly - You oughta be ashamed of your irrational and obsessive behavior but I know that message will go to the wind

OK, I am certainly not intending to say anything insulting. I’m just bringing it up as a counterpoint to your argument about Trump derangement. And, I don’t know what you expect me to say in response on your specific claims. Are you saying that I should be providing reasoned evidence that Michelle Obama doesn’t have a penis? Some claims are just so absurd and clearly wrong that to address it on the merits is to give it more credence than it deserves.

 

[thadoggfather]

OK, I am certainly not intending to say anything insulting. I’m just bringing it up as a counterpoint to your argument about Trump derangement. And, I don’t know what you expect me to say in response on your specific claims. Are you saying that I should be providing reasoned evidence that Michelle Obama doesn’t have a penis? Some claims are just so absurd and clearly wrong that to address it on the merits is to give it more credence than it deserves.

Don’t cop out now. You bring it up every time. You definitely mean to be insulting and mean to silence and discredit any of my opinions that follow that aren’t Even remotely related to the subject you’re obsessed about and I don’t particularly appreciate it but at the same time I will counter it. Every. Single. Time. Because I also don’t care and wont bow to your will.

 

[RichardMZhlubb]

Don’t cop out now. You bring it up every time. You definitely mean to be insulting and mean to silence and discredit any of my opinions that follow that aren’t Even remotely related to the subject you’re obsessed about and I don’t particularly appreciate it but at the same time I will counter it. Every. Single. Time. Because I also don’t care and wont bow to your will.

“Every time” is twice (maybe three times), and I’ve only brought it up in the context of a political discussion where you were dismissing complaints about Trump as irrational. It’s not meant to silence you; it’s just meant to provide context to your opinion of what constitutes an irrational argument.

 

[thadoggfather]

“Every time” is twice (maybe three times), and I’ve only brought it up in the context of a political discussion where you were dismissing complaints about Trump as irrational. It’s not meant to silence you; it’s just meant to provide context to your opinion of what constitutes an irrational argument.

I don’t know how many times it’s been I don’t keep track / care but More than a few. One too many for sure. Especially considering you expect different results every time and don’t get it every time.

“Just meant to provide context to your opinion of what constitutes an irrational argument”

But - My argument isn’t irrational. If i had no evidence i agree it would be. I’ve cited evidence from multiple angles you Just don’t happen to like it or the conclusion drawn from it. So you effectively are trying to discredit me and my right to have an opinion and silence my voice for matters unrelated to the thread topic. It’s clear as day what your intentions are

You copping out is even lamer but also predictable! Gonna make shady moves and then say you aren’t doing that, without apology, and then re confirm that is exactly what you’re doing

...So why am I wasting time replying to your dribble again? That is admittedly what’s irrational

because having a “reputation” on this board is nice to maintain on the apple side but not something that particularly keeps me up at night. But I engage anyways because raw cowardice doesn’t settle well with me.

 

[GermanSuplex]

The president may be voted by citizens but his job is to represent the states. Wyoming deserves the same representation as California. Not on a per-capita basis but on a each-are-a-state basis. If there is anything wrong with the electoral collage it is that New York and Vermont have different electoral votes.

So why not a per-county basis? Per-neighborhood? It's one thing to support the electoral college, its asinine to suggest Vermont should have the same electoral votes as New York State.

 

[dannyyankou]

As much as I have my issues with the president, I never had an issue with Ivanka. I think she's an intelligent and moral person. I with I can say the same about Donald.

 

[RichardMZhlubb]

As much as I have my issues with the president, I never had an issue with Ivanka. I think she's an intelligent and moral person. I with I can say the same about Donald.

Can you work to promote and support someone who is totally amoral and still be considered moral?

 

[Scarpad]

Teaching the proper use of email servers I hope hear she’s an expert

Apple CEO Tim Cook and Ivanka Trump, adviser to President Donald Trump, are visiting Idaho's Wilder School District together today to examine the district's use of technology in education, according to the Idaho Statesman.

The visit is part of Ivanka Trump's ongoing workforce development and science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) education initiatives. Last year, the Trump administration reached out to Cook and other major technology, business, and education leaders for advice regarding STEM education in public schools.

In 2016, Apple donated an iPad to every student, a Mac and iPad to every teacher, and an Apple TV to every classroom in the Wilder School District through its ConnectED initiative. Since 2014, Apple has pledged $100 million in technology solutions to 114 low-income or underserved schools across the United States.

Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Tim Cook and Ivanka Trump Visiting Idaho School District Today

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Lord, I would drink her bathwater...

Too late dad beat you to it

 

[4jasontv]

So why not a per-county basis? Per-neighborhood? It's one thing to support the electoral college, its asinine to suggest Vermont should have the same electoral votes as New York State.

It does seem odd until you remember it's the United STATES of America.