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A few here and there ...

1) Consumer interest in the Apple Watch has been less than expected.

2) So is developer interest. The amount of WatchKit SDK activity has been much less than expected.

3) They will delay the release date to make an artificial scarcity to intentionally make pent up demand and on-line social media activity.

4) After months of Watch pitches in The Loop, no one killer app has been identified nor assigned an evangelist.

5) No big outfit has bought Pebble. That says a lot more than the Apple Watch announcement.

6) Expect it to really launch around Memorial Day weekend when people have time to hang out in line around Apple stores.

7) The iPad Pro launch will be bigger than the Apple Watch launch.
 
Can't see how this is going to be a massive success unless they do something disruptive…

The only thing I could think of is make Siri significantly better and make voice the main input with the watch (since its using the phone you have that resource) - then you don't have to worry about touching tiny little icons on that little screen or using that little dial.

If its a talk interface and works really well - it'll be Katie bar the door on sales.

It will be a success because it is an Apple product. Look at all of the people here who are going to buy one site unseen. It's new, it's Apple, it will be like feeding time for sharks.
 
I see some ridiculous price speculation here.

iPad, iPhone, macbook Air, lets look at what has made Apple money in recent years. All these products are close in range in pricing, with upgraded models being within a hundred or 'so' within the base, and another upgrade a 'hundred or so' within the base.

I would venture to bet the Aluminum model is $348, with SS ~$500 (not upwards to $1000, this seems ridiculous)., Gold perhaps $1000+, not $3k, $5k, etc.

Apple makes no money if they cant sell it to millions of people in mass.

I think SS will start at ~$500 but go up depending on the band... the leather bands will be more than the sport band, and the link and milanese bands will be more than the leather bands. I don't have a good sense of the price of those higher cost bands, but a SS watch + the costliest SS bands might get to around ... IDK... $800? Maybe more.

Gold is gold. Apple doesn't have to sell millions of those -- or even a single one. That one is to establish the brand -- a kind of bragging rights. Its the Aluminum and SS ones that they are counting on.
 
A few here and there ...

1) Consumer interest in the Apple Watch has been less than expected.

2) So is developer interest. The amount of WatchKit SDK activity has been much less than expected.

3) They will delay the release date to make an artificial scarcity to intentionally make pent up demand and on-line social media activity.

4) After months of Watch pitches in The Loop, no one killer app has been identified nor assigned an evangelist.

5) No big outfit has bought Pebble. That says a lot more than the Apple Watch announcement.

6) Expect it to really launch around Memorial Day weekend when people have time to hang out in line around Apple stores.

7) The iPad Pro launch will be bigger than the Apple Watch launch.

I don't see it...

I don't see any evidence of 1) or 2).
3) Doesn't make sense. Delaying a release date doesn't make artificial scarcity... holding back inventory to below-demand levels does. Social media is already making what it will of it regardless of supply vs. demand.
4) The Loop is not very important, there's no particular reason anyone is going to "pitch" an idea there, and there's no reason to think a killer app could be identified from such a "pitch".
5) The Apple Watch isn't going to be like a Pebble.
6) Since Tim's gone public with April, the only way it gets delayed to May is if there's a serious problem.
7) No thoughts on that one.
 
A few here and there ...

1) Consumer interest in the Apple Watch has been less than expected.

2) So is developer interest. The amount of WatchKit SDK activity has been much less than expected.

3) They will delay the release date to make an artificial scarcity to intentionally make pent up demand and on-line social media activity.

4) After months of Watch pitches in The Loop, no one killer app has been identified nor assigned an evangelist.

5) No big outfit has bought Pebble. That says a lot more than the Apple Watch announcement.

6) Expect it to really launch around Memorial Day weekend when people have time to hang out in line around Apple stores.

7) The iPad Pro launch will be bigger than the Apple Watch launch.

I would counter to your points

1 & 2: expected using what metric? (Scientifically not anecdotally).

3: That's an amateur conspiracy theory canard. Propose that in your marketing class and see how quickly the professor mocks the idea. Its a gimmick is 1) proven not to be effective and 2) costs a company actual sales in hope of getting more at some point in the future. But it's true a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. A company might scale production to forecasted demand, but that's different than using inventory as a marketing maneuver.

4: Here is partly why - http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000349756#
The other why is that Apple hasn't fully announced the features of the watch.

5: Why would a company buy Pebble to compete with Apple?

6: Tim Cook just announced "April." He now has skin in the game. Memorial Day is the end of May. If Apple only releases a small amount in April it will be a botched launch, not what Cook wants or needs.

7: The iPad Pro:Apple Watch as Caterpillar Tractor:GoPro Camera; i.e. they have nothing to do with each other. Also bigger how, sales units? Revenue?
 
A few here and there ...

1) Consumer interest in the Apple Watch has been less than expected.

2) So is developer interest. The amount of WatchKit SDK activity has been much less than expected.

3) They will delay the release date to make an artificial scarcity to intentionally make pent up demand and on-line social media activity.

4) After months of Watch pitches in The Loop, no one killer app has been identified nor assigned an evangelist.

5) No big outfit has bought Pebble. That says a lot more than the Apple Watch announcement.

6) Expect it to really launch around Memorial Day weekend when people have time to hang out in line around Apple stores.

7) The iPad Pro launch will be bigger than the Apple Watch launch.

Except for point 5, I agree with you. Long lines at the Apple stores, with a few people camping a day in advance may not be a reality. And rather than creating an artificial 'demand' Apple should expect this too for, only those who own an iPhone can buy a Watch but not everyone who owns an iPhone may want a Watch.

For your point 5 however, big outfits like Mont Blanc, Tag Heuer, etc are looking at ways to supplement that 'smart' feature in their own watches also says a lot more.
 
I wonder if Apple has internally started envisioning the next few iterations of the watch or the extent of that. I'm sure compromises were made and design / engineering challenges they put off till the next version. The question for me is whether the :apple: watch v2 will be announced June, '16 or later in '17. I might get one, but it seems like the second iterations will have major improvement and what not because this is just a new product (like going from the original iPhone to the iPhone 3G).
 
Agreed. I'd rather have a delayed launch but everything work right than an on schedule launch but with lots of bugs.

My friend who is an engineer at Apple (and has used the watch) gave me the impression they still had a bit of work to do when I spoke with him recently. While I'm not personally sold on the watch, as an Apple fan (and more as an investor) I want it to be the best it can be. If they need to delay it, fine with me. So long as they nail it when it's finally released.

I'm putting my money on April 17th being the launch date, about 1 week before Q2 results go live, they can announce the first weekend numbers then.

Good call!
 
3 months to go. What if I can't wait that long?!!!?

I need it NOW!

Then buy an Android piece of crap and spend the next three months wondering why you did such a thing.

Or you can take that money burning a hole in your pocket and invest it in Apple stock while you wait.
 
A few here and there ...

1) Consumer interest in the Apple Watch has been less than expected.

2) So is developer interest. The amount of WatchKit SDK activity has been much less than expected.

3) They will delay the release date to make an artificial scarcity to intentionally make pent up demand and on-line social media activity.

4) After months of Watch pitches in The Loop, no one killer app has been identified nor assigned an evangelist.

5) No big outfit has bought Pebble. That says a lot more than the Apple Watch announcement.

6) Expect it to really launch around Memorial Day weekend when people have time to hang out in line around Apple stores.

7) The iPad Pro launch will be bigger than the Apple Watch launch.

1. I agree. Anecdotally speaking. Neither my work clients nor friends have expressed any interest in Apple Watch, and they all own iPhones. The one consistent comment I have heard when I ask them about it is that it's too expensive. I feel very much the same. At under $200, I think it would sell like crazy. But not at $350+.

2. I can't speak to this.

3. I don't think so. I think they will delay the release because it's not ready. My friend who has used the watch says it's quite laggy still. They know they have to get it right. No margin for error. There are massive expectations for the product. Tim is stoking it so hard every chance he gets. He can't live without it. The public is expecting a new WOW product from Apple. Analysts are expecting a new WOW product/revenue stream. If they delay it, rest assured it's not some conspiracy.

4. For all the hype, I haven't seen a killer concept anywhere either. So far all we've gotten is Apple's take on what already exists in the market. But I think that has a lot to do with the fact that ANY smart watch has very limited potential period. Sensors are the future of the product. There's no killer app really. The screen is too small to be much more than a notification window on your wrist. Beyond that, all of the potential lies in what kind of sensors they can add to the device. Of course, if you're not someone who cares about tracking all of your personal biometric data, I don't think the Watch will ever appeal.

5. I don't agree. Why buy Pebble? For what it would cost, you might as well develop your own device. It's not like wearables are a hot product category. People like Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, etc. are better off just starting from scratch and designing a product that works within their respective ecosystems.

6. I don't agree. Apple doesn't usually miss deadlines unless there's a very good reason. It'll ship in April. As someone else said, probably around the 17th, before earnings, so they can pump the first weekend sales numbers (which will be big, no doubt).

7. I agree. Assuming there is an iPad Pro. :)

It will be a success because it is an Apple product. Look at all of the people here who are going to buy one site unseen. It's new, it's Apple, it will be like feeding time for sharks.

I wasn't convinced that the Apple Watch will be a success, but I'm starting to adjust my thinking a bit, especially after seeing last quarter's revenue broken down by percentages. It's painfully obvious that Apple *IS* the iPhone. 70% of the company's revenue is iPhone. Without iPhone, Apple is toast.

I used to think of the Watch as creating a new "tentpole" for Apple in terms of revenue, a new product category to wow the expectant masses. But in reality, there's only one tentpole at Apple, the iPhone. So making an accessory to capitalize off that tentpole is smart. I don't think it will become a significant revenue stream for them, but if they can carve out a nice niche accessory business (with great margins) to pad the bottom line, that can't hurt.

am I the only one who doesn't wear jewelry and already owns an iPhone?

I'm right there with you. I've seen nothing at all to make me remotely interested in buying the Apple Watch. But I don't wear a watch, so there would have to be a killer feature to get me interested in wearing one again. I also see no reason to spend $350+ on what amounts to little more than a more convenient way to receive notifications and track health metrics (zero interest...I prefer to live life...I don't need to count my steps).
 
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Clearly you didn't watch the keynote. The Nano and the Apple Watch have virtually nothing in common beyond kind of sort of similar size a little.

Painfully similar. I just cant understand how this product has any appeal.Isnt it enough for people to consult their phones every 5 minutes like anxious gerbils. Now you need a watch to check notifications every 30 secondls. I dont know which is more disheartening: this ugly product or it what it suggest about the culture.
 
The same "experts" discussing the battery life have no more a clue about this topic than they did about Apple's performance for the quarter, or the past several years.

Translated means, their clueless.
 
There is way to much riding on this new product category for it to be half-baked/not ready.

Apple has a lot riding on this watch, they need to show investors they can still innovate new market turners like iPad/iPhone/iPod were. Expect another month of final touches, than finally building up mass production (this area seems like it will be hard given how many unique watches/combinations they are offering)
 
I just ordered a 5C online for mad cheap, but I already use the Moto 360. I have to try the iWatch before I decide to buy a watch for my backup phone tbh.
 
It's made of solid 18ct gold... Expect it to be several thousand dollars. It's being sold as a high-end, luxury watch. Gold watches from Rolex often cost tens of thousands of dollars and there's no reason why Apple wouldn't price similarly.

It all comes down to the actual weight in gold used. Are we to assume the Apple watch will use the same amount of gold as a high end timepiece? Also, there's a reason why luxury watches cost in the thousands of dollars and it's not just due to the material they're made out of. Not to mention that the Apple watch innards lose value quickly.

I don't doubt it's going to cost quite a bit, but with so much unknown it's impossible to really speculate.

On a semi-related note, calling it "the edition" is just dumb.
 
Right. When you buy a Mac, the model is described as Early-2011 or Mid-2013. I guess they are consistent enough.



But lets face it. The watch is heading toward being about a month late. No big deal. But it is.


A month late? You're basing it on the rumours of March release from ropey sources then. Apple only said early 2015, which April is. Now they're confirming April. It's only late if that now gets pushed to May or later.
 
No birthday present for me in March, gotta save them coins for the watch.
 
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