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What tax are they legally required to pay that they're not paying? do you report any deductions on your taxes? If you do does that mean that you are also avoiding paying taxes?

I assume you just don't know. Before continuing posting , is suggest you google "Ireland corporate tax avoidance" all the big companies are doing it, and it's common knowledge in Europe. Feel free to do your own research and work out what "US taxes are not being paid" I'm not doing that for you. Though trust me, if you bother to read the facts instead of blindly defending Apple, today you will realise companies that base themselves out of Ireland are doing it for tax avoidance reasons, and by the definition of the term, payment of tax is Being avoided ;)

So let's at least be educated adults here and agree it's tax avoidance.
 
I assume you just don't know. Before continuing posting , is suggest you google "Ireland corporate tax avoidance" all the big companies are doing it, and it's common knowledge in Europe. Feel free to do your own research and work out what "US taxes are not being paid" I'm not doing that for you. Though trust me, if you bother to read the facts instead of blindly defending Apple, today you will realise companies that base themselves out of Ireland are doing it for tax avoidance reasons, and by the definition of the term, payment of tax is Being avoided ;)

So let's at least be educated adults here and agree it's tax avoidance.

Yeah, yeah. Nice cop out.
 
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There's not a more despicable or a more greedy company. They try finding all the ways to screw the system in any way they can. But when other companies try to do the same thing to them, they cry foul, and take them to court. I love how some here are saying, if it's legal, I'm ok with it. I wonder if these same people are ok with corporations claiming bankruptcy multiple times and receiving bailouts from govt money?
 
This is simply what a good business is to do. If there are tax laws that inhibit business and you can get out of them, you do it. It's just about gaining a profit. Sure you can say it's "immoral" but it's still perfectly legal
 
but still why should Apple be allowed to avoid the liability by fancy legal footwork? Hmm ... I wonder: I am an academic. If I set up a research company in Ireland, and have my University (and various companies from time to time) who pay my salary pay this company, I wonder if I would be allowed to avoid paying reasonable UK and US tax. Like Apple.

You can not compare the tax burden of a corporation and a private individual. In almost every tax system, private individuals are taxed a much higher percentage of their income, than corporations are of their revenue.

You do not have to do any fancy legal work to pay less taxes than you do, all you have to do is be a corporation. I have my own small one-man corporation in Norway and my effective tax percentage of revenue is about 10-12%.

Setting up an Irish consulting firm would be easy and your max tax rate would be 15% and it would be very easy to bring it down to single digits. The problem is when you try to take money out of the company as salary or dividends. Then you are hit with taxes both in Ireland and in the US.
 
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No mate , YOU don't understand the point they are making.

So you believe a US company does not have to declare thier income while operating overseas..... Careful when you label others as morons and retards. I suggest you do some research on the IRS website and see how Apple is getting around this ..... This is why it's Called "avoidance" ....geez... It's in the name!
Are they breaking a law?
 
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Legal? Yes. Moral? No. U2 do the same thing to avoid paying Irish taxes. I don't think people would be as upset if it weren't for the fact that Apple and U2 paint themselves as having high morals and lecture others when they both are hypocrites.

This is similar to Apple publicly supporting LGBT rights and wanting laws to prohibit LGBT discrimination in the U.S. but having no problem doing business in countries that have zero LGBT rights for its citizens.
 
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The Ireland stuff is immoral tax avoidance to be fair.

Immoral is subjective and based on perspective of the world.

Apple isn't breaking the law - they are doing their very best to make as much money within the laws for shareholders as possible. As a USA company - that is their responsibility - you guys understand that right?

Most of you don't realize you're just in your feelings like woman.

Legal? Yes. Moral? No. U2 do the same thing to avoid paying Irish taxes. I don't think people would be as upset if it weren't for the fact that Apple and U2 paint themselves as having high morals and lecture others when they both are hypocrites.
What exactly does Apple do that paint themselves as high morals?
 
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No mate , YOU don't understand the point they are making.

So you believe a US company does not have to declare thier income while operating overseas..... Careful when you label others as morons and retards. I suggest you do some research on the IRS website and see how Apple is getting around this ..... This is why it's Called "avoidance" ....geez... It's in the name!

Of course, Apple is declaring their foreign income and their taxes to the IRS. If you read their 10-K they even mention their tax liability, which is about $24 billions.
 
As a company you do your very best to minimalize your taxes and save + earn as much money as possible. Nothing tomorrow is guaranteed.

Clearly - some of you have never been to school or have 0 experience with operating a business at a national + global level.

You can't sit here and say you run a business or you are an employee of a company - and pay your taxes like a good citizen and compare yourself to Apple...

Where are you brains?
 
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Not read all the post (almost 300 now) but this is a big deal here in Australia. First yes I agree they are not breaking the law but as it stands Apple in 2014 pay just 1% tax here which is not good. I do think governments around the world need to work this out and it's not just Apple. Many companies are dong like wise and many countries around the world are loosing out on billions in tax.
 
Why are people here so ignorant? Yes, its legal what Apple is doing but its plain wrong. We're not Apple lawyers arguing the law, we're citizens who pay our fair share of tax while big companies like Apple can cheat because they're able to buy the government.
 
Well I think it was polite of the US to demand taxes on income earned overseas. I also think it was kind of apple to pass on the generous offer.
 
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What?! Its dead money sitting in a bank account, it doesn't do ****.
Learn how banks work, bro.

Because _I_ have to pay taxes every time I turn around, and I don't get to act all high and mighty and hipster-ish wannabe-progressive for selling overpriced proprietary consumer crap.
And you're buying their products why?
 
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-> Cook described the tax avoidance accusations as total political crap.

-> He added that repatriating the money is not reasonable due to high corporate tax rates.

Those claims contradict each other. Apple is either avoiding tax or it isn't!

Ehhm, no they don't.

Money made in USA is fully taxed and paid for.

Money made overseas is kept overseas and that's perfectly legal and even reasonable.

Apple WANTS to move this money to the USA to pay the bills, buy companies, etc. but it doesn't have to and doesn't want to at 40%.

And they are totally right.
 
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