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macrumors demi-god
Apr 11, 2005
Yes Tim, we will remember having to wait 2 years for a meaningful iOS update as the multitasking and dock element improvements to the iPad are great but the iPhone really goes from 10.3 to 10.5. iOS 11 for the iPhone is nothing to write home about. Certainly not to "remember". The opportunity to make iOS 11 and iPhone X have a significant UI impact has been passed over in favor of patting yourself on the back and over sensationalizing a whole lot of nothing. Force/3D Touch is underwhelmingly utilized system wide.


macrumors 65816
Sep 1, 2010
...the AR features of iOS 11 are a "huge" addition to the iPhone and iPad ecosystem and will be "unbelievable" for users.

I'll wait until developers actually create something worthwhile with it before I plunk more money on hardware, Tim.

Potential and accomplishment are very different. I learned from the iPad's evolution that a new concept can take years to mature and deliver on its promise. The iPad is finally getting abilities that should have been possible years ago. Indeed, the iPhone X is labeled the iPhone of the future. Early adopters of the iPhone X will probably regret their rush once the novelty of animoji wanes.


macrumors 65816
Mar 25, 2009
Any cool new ARKit apps hit the store yet? I'm specifically interested in tape measure apps, as well as some fun apps that place models like dinosaurs and such into real spaces that I can play around with my kid.

The Splitter Creatures AR levels they added yesterday are pretty cool imo.


macrumors 68000
Jun 19, 2005
Minneapolis, MN, USA, Urth
I've been running the beta but the way they're talking you'd swear half or over half of the features have been hidden... Not substantially different in some ways and other things I expected to see are so well hidden you can't find them anymore.


macrumors demi-god
Apr 11, 2005
Springboard is 10 years old. New iPhone X. Could have introduced us to the future and next decade of UI. Oh wait, Craig and all the other tool executives at Apple don't have a real whip master punishing them for laziness. Instead they come up with trivial nonsense and then introduce it in a grandiose way to over hype it. They've gone glacial in their development to milk the users.
IOS 11 is a massive disappointment, there's not much "new" in it. It's just chalked full of bandades.. Apple needs to redesign the interface, icons don't count fellas. Now moving away from the home button, time to really step up software development!


macrumors 65816
Oct 24, 2013
United States
Darth Vader said something similar, and we know how well that turned out for the Death Star..

This entire first page has been very negative to the point of the comical (Tim's not *that* bad guys), but I have to hand it to you, the Vader reference gave me a good chuckle.


macrumors 65816
Oct 6, 2008
Ontario, Canada
iOS 11 is the first update I'm skipping entirely...

Between the lack of support for 32-bit apps, and the guaranteed hit to performance/speed, there's literally no compelling reason to upgrade.


macrumors regular
Sep 12, 2017
IOS 11 is a massive disappointment, there's not much "new" in it. It's just chalked full of bandades.. Apple needs to redesign the interface, icons don't count fellas. Now moving away from the home button, time to really step up software development!

separate iOS for button and buttonless models?


macrumors 65816
Sep 1, 2010
He wants it to be remembered for ARKit, because Apple silently decided they couldn't manage to launch the two biggest features of iOS 11... P2P Payments and iMessage Cloud Sync. Notice those were quietly removed from the features list?

Amen. They couldn't deliver two practical features that would preserve Apple's reputation for elegant UX. Add to that, their set back with the new MacOS file system and the Fusion drives they heavily promoted. Apple is so desperate to be a part of the future, that they're neglecting the present.


macrumors regular
Aug 19, 2015
Yeah with downpayment you don't pay the full price, right? What a sleazy car salesman type of argument. Honestly the galaxy S8 is 650 USD and the iPhone 8 is 1050 USD where I live. The x much more than that. They are taking the piss.

What are you talking about down payment? I have never put any money down on a new iPhone. I am part of the Verizon Device Payment Plan, and I continue paying the same amount every year when I either give my former phone back or sell it and pay it off.


macrumors regular
Aug 25, 2010
Oh, it's a day to remember, alright. Where all my kids' 32-bit apps got the boot. Great job nuking childhood memories, Tim.

I guess this was meant to be a joke and it worked....I laughed, thank you


macrumors 68030
Oct 14, 2011
SETTINGS -> GENERAL -> ABOUT -> APPLICATIONS-> (click that bar wait 3 seconds)

Oh it’ll be a day to remember that’s for sure. The day Apple decided things we purchased? he doesn’t think we should use them any more. It’s called “Planned Obsolescence” - just like your computer and iPad. 5 years then throw it away even though it works perfect.

Since iTunes 12.7 took away the right for us to backup our own devises by removing the App Store why not kill off hundreds of thousands of those apps while were at it ?

We have close to 3,000 ranging from free to as high as $170 purchase price. When beta 5 came out I got a little surprise on my new iPad Pro housing them all.
“1.877 apps were removed as they were not compatible”. Wtf?

Don’t do it. It’s not worth loosing 1/3rd of your purchases.

I’m surprised he had time to post or say anything. Isn’t there a “cause” somewhere needing your activists’ attention Tim? Some gay day parade you need to speak at? Oh that’s right this weekend is Folsom Street fair. I forgot. See ya their??
The Dead Sea called, they want their salt back.
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