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Tim Cook Calls Today's Launch of iOS 11 and ARKit 'A Day To Remember'

iPhaithful said:
Most of us use phones for dialing, taking pictures, social media, and music. ALL manufacturers have mastered this to some extent now. Now they're just trying to see what grabs your attention the first 1-2 months of owning the phone before you go back to using it how you would normally (as I described before).
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So are you saying phones already do everything most people want, there's no more innovation left to do on the product and all that's left is for manufacturers is grab your attention with a little passing flash?

What a boring would that would be.
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Uaaerospace2 said:
Face ID is nothing new? Please enlighten us as to where you've seen this old tech before. (please choose wisely and don't insult us)
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Well in China, you can pay with KFC using your face as ID for authentication: http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/01/technology/china-alipay-kfc-facial-recognition/index.html

Then there's this article http://www.scmp.com/tech/china-tech...face-id-facial-authentication-already-old-hat
 
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My first iPhone was the 4s. I remember reading reviews of IOS 5 on this site when it came out. It was a piece of **it that was buggy, shouldn't have been released and those responsible should have been fired. Smart people stayed at IOS 4.x

IOS 6 came out around 2013. According to people posting It was a piece of **it that was buggy, shouldn't have been released and those responsible should have been fired. Smart people stayed at IOS 5.x

IOS 7 came out about 2 years ago. It was a piece of **it that was buggy, shouldn't have been released and those responsible should have been fired. Smart people stayed at IOS 6.x

Now IOS 11 is out. It is a piece of **it that is buggy, shouldn't have been released and those responsible should be fired. Smart people should stay at IOS 10.x

There have been things I have really not liked with some releases. ITunes/Music got more menus and sub menus in both the Music app and in various parts of Settings and that has been my biggest complaint when trying to configure things. Some of the new features didn't work well at first, though I either got familiar with those or Apple changed or fixed them with a Y.X revision.

But as a whole, it usually was an improvement over the previous OS, Apple Maps excepted. The negative hyperbole every time a new OS is released kills your argument. You have complaints? Be specific. Also look at the system as a whole. There may be parts you don't like (music, Maps, etc) parts that you will never use but don't hurt the OS (Emoji's in my case) but if you really feel that strongly about the upgrades it may be time for you to vote the only way that matters, and buy a different brand of phone.
 
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iop said:
The spelling look Welsh.
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It’s inverse Gaelic. Regular Gaelic is when the spelling is bonkers (Saorsie, Domhnall) but when spoken it sounds perfectly normal (”Sirsha”, ”Donal”). Cook’s inverse Gaelic is spelled like regular English (display) but pronounced like an alien language (”displauuurrrghayh”).
 
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joueboy said:
Typical Tim Cook likes the media attention. Later on he will probably remembered as the guy who killed Apple.
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yeah, he's really been running the company into the ground since Steve died. Just look at the plummeting revenues.


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robeddie said:
Some developers may have decided there wasnt enough money in the cut throat app world, or even died.
If I happen to find and old 32-bit app enjoyable/useful then I dont need it updated ... until Apple breaks it, of course
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Apple needs to take steps towards the future. 32 bit apps bloat the operating system, with lots of libraries and files included just for 32bit support. Again, this is on the app developers and not on Apple.
 
Jimmy James said:
Paying double down for the term pricing is a bad explanation even if it were a good value. Money is money.
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It’s a perfectly good explanation. I’ve been using iPhones singe the 3GS and the way he’s explained it is the way I’ve always done it. I’ve never even thought of it such that an iPhone costs $700; now $1k. I’ve only ever taken into consideration the amount I have to pay up front. Considering that the rest is paid progressively through my phone bill, it is much easier to swallow.

This is because, given a stable job, you are always making more money. In the case of an iPhone X, paying $430 down and then $30 every month for two years is a lot more manageable for me (and many, many others) than paying $1k on the spot. It feels like less of a financial commitment; and I get paid weekly, a large portion of which goes towards bills — one of those bills is my phone bill, which is also paying off my iPhone.

Feels natural to me. Perfectly rational of him to suggest this, as I’m certainly not the only one who does it this way.
 
deeddawg said:
yeah, he's really been running the company into the ground since Steve died. Just look at the plummeting revenues.


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Because that's exactly the bases for the future of the company. Historically a lot of those companies are still there but struggling now IBM, Motorola, Nokia, Sony and the list goes on and on.
 
Remember when Apple, and especially its CEO, never had to debase themselves by going on to pop news media shows to promote their products?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.
 
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DevNull0 said:
Well in China, you can pay with KFC using your face as ID for authentication: http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/01/technology/china-alipay-kfc-facial-recognition/index.html

Then there's this article http://www.scmp.com/tech/china-tech...face-id-facial-authentication-already-old-hat
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GhostRaider said:
Sure, you can go read it yourself. The technology itself isn't new. The only new thing here is that it unlocks your phone but of course its "Magical".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_recognition_system#Notable_users_and_deployments
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So a 2d facial recognition system in an permanently installed kiosk or ATM is the same as a 3D facial recognition in a 7.7mm thick mobile device? One is basic photograph comparison (something like google images) and the other is using a 3D map. These are in no way the same things.

I'm no fanboy but the readers on here will complain about anything and everything.
 
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ackmondual said:
I would argue that title belongs to Coca Cola. If you visit the Coca Cola Museum in Atlanta, Georgia, the whole premise of that place is "Here's some sugar water we marketed the hell out of. It's worked out real well for us. Here, have a sample!". OTOH, it helps the products they sell are 1) comparatively MUCH cheaper ($1 bottle of coke easily falls into impulse buy territory) and 2) how their products are literally addicting (sugar and caffeine will do that ;)), so I'd have to revisit this post and say Apple's certainly got some unique tricks up their sleeves.
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I'd probably argue that title belongs to Red Bull :p
 
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I'm sure it will be a day to remember.....for about 2-3 months while the 32bit app complaints roll in along with the usual old device issues and bug fixes.
 
ackmondual said:
2) how their products are literally addicting (sugar and caffeine will do that ;)),
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Apparently not addictive enough b/c soda sales have been in decline for some time now. It’s why they made the push into flavored water. LaCroix is the new soda.
 
Tim is very slick and evasive. He claims that the price of the iPhone X "is a value price of what we are getting." He justified the price by saying that most pay for the phone over time (financing), trade in their old phones and some wireless carriers provide a subsidy. Little out of touch Tim on the last example...Most carriers have eliminated the subsidies. Tim also claimed that everyone wants the iPhone to do more so that's what Apple is doing. So Apple takes out the headphone jack, the home button and touch ID. I know everyone asked for these things to be taken away and for the price to increase. Oh yeah, Apple is adding Face ID to this device. Meanwhile, last week, he told MacRumors Apple is not pricing their products for the rich. That is such garbage. Everyone should finance their phones because Tim thinks it's okay. Wireless service is expensive enough so iPhone customers should have their wireless bill inflated by 25 to 40 dollars a month just to use the iPhone. All he is doing is trying to justify Apple's greed. This is suppose to be a phone not a $1000 toy. I think Tim Cook is full of garbage and just an out of touch money hungry man.
 
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rtrutter said:
Tim is very slick and evasive. He claims that the price of the iPhone X "is a value price of what we are getting." He justified the price by saying that most pay for the phone over time (financing)....
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The “joke” of it is if they were actual “value” priced people wouldn’t need to finance them. Also Apple wouldn’t be able to savor a 35% margin. Tim should stop pretending a $1000-1300 phone is anything more than a gross luxury.
 
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nurban1992 said:
It’s a perfectly good explanation. I’ve been using iPhones singe the 3GS and the way he’s explained it is the way I’ve always done it. I’ve never even thought of it such that an iPhone costs $700; now $1k. I’ve only ever taken into consideration the amount I have to pay up front. Considering that the rest is paid progressively through my phone bill, it is much easier to swallow.

This is because, given a stable job, you are always making more money. In the case of an iPhone X, paying $430 down and then $30 every month for two years is a lot more manageable for me (and many, many others) than paying $1k on the spot. It feels like less of a financial commitment; and I get paid weekly, a large portion of which goes towards bills — one of those bills is my phone bill, which is also paying off my iPhone.

Feels natural to me. Perfectly rational of him to suggest this, as I’m certainly not the only one who does it this way.
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Where I live the up front cost has already doubled in a handful of years. I anticipate that a subsidized X will be triple the cost and more than the outright purchase cost of an iPhone from 5 years ago. There could be a regional factor here. But this isn't an inflationary increase.
 
macTW said:
Seems like many people are too short sighted to see the significance of ARKit.
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I’ve observed technology for decades. Consumer electronics are seldom revolutionary other than from an engineering perspective. They are typically existing tools, media, or abilities reformatted or re-engineered ( vinyl records > cassette tape > digital audio ) The “advancements” are often accompanied with compromises, and their purpose is unchanged.

I’m sure it’s exciting to developers to have new abilities in their toolkits, but the number of lasting life-changing uses they conceive is quite small. Frankly, many of the technological amusements that have been touted as breakthroughs lately (3D, VR, AI) haven’t proven indispensable. The kitchen spatula has been more useful and successful.

Sure, AR may have the potential to assist with health care, aid in military defense, or enhance education. But in consumer applications, it’s likely to be just another way of achieving nothing important.
 
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