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Tim Cook Says 250 Apple Employees Are 'Dreamers' as Donald Trump's Decision on DACA Nears
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Oh well. Perhaps the criminals should have thought of that BEFORE illegally sneaking across the border.
The fact that the liberal leftwing mainstream media has coined the term "dreamers", to obfuscate how these people are illegal immigrants, further exemplifies the dishonest and politicised "opinion journalism" we're being bombarded with from the "fake news" Democrat press aka CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo etc.
Of course, the vast majority of these uneducated illegal immigrants would become Democrat-voters if they got citizenship. Hmm...
Of course, the vast majority of these uneducated illegal immigrants would become Democrat-voters if they got citizenship. Hmm...
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This must be one of the stupidest things I see about immigration. Whether you support immigration or don't legal status is not hard. And it's a crazy insult to the people who went through the painful process of legal naturalization, who turned in the forms, waited for the legal process. It's like conparing a car thief to people who bought cars and wistfully looking into the air and saying, "aren't we really all car thiefs anyway?" And for some Americans this passes for clever discourse.
How can the president of a country built by immigrants, whose major contributions are often achieved by immigrants' descendants, strive to kill that which keeps making America the planetary leader? How can he be so blind?
This is what immediately came to my mind:
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This is what immediately came to my mind:
I think Trump made the right move here, delay for 6 months to let Congress pass an actual law. Gives Democrats incentive to come to the table. I think they should give citizenship to these people if they have no criminal record in exchange for full funding of the wall and mandatory everify enforcement.
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There's a difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants. When your first act in a country is to defy their laws you aren't off to a good start.
I am an immigrant btw.
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How can the president of a country built by immigrants, whose major contributions are often achieved by immigrants' descendants, strive to kill that which keeps making America the planetary leader? How can he be so blind?
This is what immediately came to my mind:
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There's a difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants. When your first act in a country is to defy their laws you aren't off to a good start.
I am an immigrant btw.
I so love this picture. I'm pretty sure I would have a similar expression if i had to sit near this bozo
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everyone here is an immigrant or descendant of an immigrant.
There is also a difference between illegal immigrants and descendants from illegal immigrants. These have not deliberately immigrated nor asked to be born there, and know no other home than the USA.
It's more than a "different opinion". Its like claiming that the world is flat and me saying "yeah cool, I see you have a point". It's dumb, divisive and more importantly deadly. People like you and the OP are in effect dehumanising immigrants and people of colour. There is no nuance. And once you dehumanise and make these people second class citizens you can do what you want.. bomb them, enslave them, kill them, rape them. Thats the point. And don't say that's sensationalist. Its actually happening again, like its did in the 30s and 40s and at various times in history. Thats why we have to fight this rhetoric.
The fact that we already have people openly declaring there love of all things Nazi and Hitler just shows you how big the iceberg has become. Because the white supremacists rubbish is just the tip of a huge iceberg of hate that is being fostered by people like you. Asking for your "opinions" to be considered as free speech when in reality they just come from hate and division.
The fact that the original poster could be shot to death at the wheel of his car in some southern state in the USA simply because he is brown seems to have been lost on him. And he then carries on using the same rhetoric that people oppress others of his appearance with. He thinks he is different somehow because he is in Europe with a fancy job etc.. He thinks he is "better" than these immigrants scrounging for a better life. It makes me sick.
I mean, the guy is brown, what if he goes to the USA and some cop stops him in a car and decides, using his view that immigrants are criminals and rapists, then shoots him because he thinks he's doing something wrong? All because of his appearance! Its ******* crazy viewpoint to have. And I'd rather have a avowed racists in front of me rather than sitting with a guy that looks like me and shares these white supremacist/racist views.
Well than explain it because you aren't good at communicating the "irony".
The law is the law. Simple -- no irony.
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Which gives you some extraordinary right to tell someone to shut up? Wow -- I thought my relatives in Germany were a little arrogant. You take the cake sir.
I agree.
I think it's generally immature anti-American sentiment as well.
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If you want nuance, please understand DACA is an unconstitutional usurpation of legislative authority.
First they came for the Dreamers. They were insignicant so no one complained
Then they came for .... ... no one complained
Then...
Then...
They they came for you. There was no one left to complain. They took you to the ....
{You fill in the gaps}
Man so simple.
On a side note... I’m sure the Hawaiians would’ve love to do this to us since you know we illegally took over their country.
I just find it ironic that a country started by illegal immigrants now has their descendants complaining about illegal immigration.
But really, it is not just as simple as “deport them” as a nation of laws people have to go through a process before being deported or granted a path to staying.
Okay....
You're analogizing this to Nazis? Of course. It always comes back to Nazis....
Yep there is a legal way to come to this country, those taking illegal avenues need to be sent home or maybe better executed to send a strong message to the southern countries.
Why Americans have tolerated this invasion for so long is beyond me. Millions of jobs and hundreds of millions in Taxes are lost to these people every year. It is a huge burden on the working class in America.
There is so many misinformed board brush strokes here it hurts.
First - how do you equate enforcing legitimate immigration laws as racist. Every country has them -- just because the vast majority of the illegal immigrants may be "brown" (lovely term you use) ---- doesn't make that law or enforcing it illegitimate.
Second -- Newsflash - we had one group in Charlottesville that were aligned with racists. However throughout 2016 and since the election it has been the left wing violent fascists who have attacked people wearing a republican t-shirt or trump hat. Or enacting violence in riots. Antifa resembles the very group they claim to protest. It is evident now that the left feels power slipping away - they are getting violent. Berkley, Wisconsin, NYC, Washington DC, Chicag0 --- all the violence was started by the left wing agitators.
Third -- There has been no dehumanization of immigrants. I call BS on you sir. The only changes have been with regards to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who have been streaming over the border for 3o years. Now we want to control that and focus n legal immigration. They are not the same.
Fourth - No one is getting shot to death just because they are brown. Again -- a sensationalist post not grounded in fact.
Without language, borders or culture, you don't have a country.
As Europe is discovering....
What trope. No they are only coming for the illegal immigrants -- no one else. There is a legal basis to do so -- the law has been around for 90 plus years.
Not everything ties back to the Nazis -- it shows you don't know what the Nazis were or have any historical context.
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The facts are that Europe -- continental Europe in particular is in dire straights. They are being over-run and its impacting their social cohesion and their way of life. Yet they have been so drenched in left wing political ideology - they cannot see it despite the facts in front of their eyes. The have increasing number of no-go zones where police and emergency personnel will not go for fear of their lives. Epidemic of rapes being committed solely by the "refugees". They have creeping sharia that endangers civil law. I do business in Europe and have family there and the changes just over the past few years much last the past 20 are sad and frightening.
Of course - its laughable to see Europeans in this forum getting all ruffled because we won't go down the same path of suicide.
Man so simple.
On a side note... I’m sure the Hawaiians would’ve love to do this to us since you know we illegally took over their country.
I just find it ironic that a country started by illegal immigrants now has their descendants complaining about illegal immigration.
But really, it is not just as simple as “deport them” as a nation of laws people have to go through a process before being deported or granted a path to staying.
Explain how this country was started by illegal immigrants? Please -- you need facts you cannot just toss our crap and claim its an relevant opinion.
Second -- yes - yes you can just deport them. The law affords that. The interesting thing about DACA is that you had to admit on a government form you came into the country illegally and without proper documentation. That admission of guilt precludes a hearing by an immigration judge. ICE can send them back within 3 hours under the law.
That is how the law is written and that is how it works.
No but showing how the slippery slope starts.
If the dreamers get deported then who is next? and after that?
Again lack of fact. How do you "illegally retire" in Mexico. Explain this and provide link to statute.
Even if you are a "legal" immigrant in Mexico -- you have severe restrictions that make US immigration law seem like kids play. Legal immigrants cannot own land - they have to lease long term. You cannot serve in a government office or serve in the military. And if you get involved in political movements or protests - you are gone.
Even naturalized citizens cannot do everything natural born citizens in Mexico can. They cannot serve as an officer in the military. They cannot serve in a government job. They cannot own land on the coast. And their citizenship can be revoked for a felony.
Now please continue with your myths.
Examples are best set by the use of extreme measures. Lets face it if the response doesn't make the news it would have little effect on people thinking about breaking the law in Mexico and further south.
Beyond that your characterization of the program is simply wrong. It is currently a program that encourages under age children to migrate to the USA illegally. The whole concept is pretty disgusting really.
The last administration left this poison pill. Best to rip off the band-aid, toss it to Congress and start over again...the correct way this time, through legislative representatives.
The land wasn't unsettled. It belonged to the natives. You act like America was this empty peice of land. There were native people of the land and they were governed by tribes.