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Tim Cook Says Apple is 'Very Committed' to the Mac and to 'Stay Tuned'

cube said:
I'd rather build my own computer and buy a copy of OSX for it.
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Me too... but Hackintoshing is a PITA these days and Apple is a company that makes money selling hardware after all.
 
They will merge the Mac and iPad lines - use their own A series chips rather than Intel. As part of the iPhone 7 presentation they said that it was powerful enough to run lightroom.

Such a move would be great for the consumer market who don't care what is inside their computer so long as it is fast. If you run any form of virtualisation however (fusion, parallels, etc) you'd best look elsewhere if Apple do go down this route - as fast as the A10 is it's not fast enough to emulate x64.
 
Nunyabinez said:
I am actually quite surprised that people haven't taken up my challenge to explain why they need new machines, other than they don't like paying for older technology, even when it is just as capable.
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I'll give you four reasons:

4K rendering/editing/grading/mastering especially from 6~8K source material.
Basically anybody working with RED R3D files, as well as those working with other high res motion formats.

VR/360 - This is big right now w/ lots of companies dumping money into hardware, even if i'm skeptical of it being more then just a fad.

Gaming - Wouldn't it be great to play fallout4 and other modern titles on a newly purchased Mac?

Virtual Machines - VMs are a common tool for development, but Apple's agreement only allows OSX/MacOS virtualization to run on Apple hardware, yet they have nothing for datacenter racks (I don't count the ridiculous monster of a rack adapter for the trashcan), and running VMs on an iMac in an office is a cruel joke.
 
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Nunyabinez said:
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but the problem I see is that there is little pressure for computers to push technology forward.

I bought the iMac with Retina when it came out two years ago. I face two problems: one, what can't it do?, or what does it struggle to do?, and two what is there to replace it?

The computers we have today all greatly outpace what we can do with them. Intel has recognized this and the new processors that they are producing are by and large not more powerful, but more efficient.

So, I'm not giving Apple a pass on not introducing new Macs or lowering the price, but what can't you really do with your Mac that an Apple update is going to enable?

And if upgrading enables you, then you probably were rocking some old outdated crap, in which case it's your fault for not upgrading at the last refresh.

People who have an Apple Watch are disappointed with the marginal update of the new Watch. But since I didn't get one, the new one looks kind of good to me.

So, I wonder, as much as I would like a new machine announced that makes me want to buy it, what would that be? What will it have that my two-year-old iMac doesn't have? TB3? TB2 & USB 3.0 seems fast enough for what I do. More accurate color? I don't do professional photography.

What is it that you think these new machines will do that current models won't do, except be made up of more recent hardware?
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I have a 2011 mbp which is lightning fast but I want to experience retina and Metal compatibility, and to pass this mbp to another family member.
I make music, do photography, dabble in video and do some dev work. I also started creating 3D-rendered video recently to go alongside my music so more CPU power is definitely always welcome for that.

The pathetic mbp SSD hard drive sizes and the terrible BTO push over the last few years is sickening. I'm hoping they increase the stock HD sizes to something more acceptable. I added a 500GB SSD in the first week that I got my 2011 mbp, in addition to a 1TB spinner for data. I look at current stock hard drive sizes and sigh. Apple seem to be stuck at 2010 SSD size/prices!

Sure, if all you do is surf the web and take the odd snap then why would you need/want a new mbp? Surely an Air or normal Macbook would suffice. That kinda goes without saying.
 
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I did wonder! This is the problem with Apple's tactic of "just quietly ignoring" products they want to get rid of (and then quietly removing them from the store) - sometimes it turns out a false positive.

Nice that they're committed now, I'm still not entirely convinced they're committed for the longer term though. Although he said "PC" when he said "why would you want one of those?" while showing off the latest iPad etc, in that context he meant (like when Steve Jobs was also saying they're obsolete) the umbrella term of traditional computers, which includes Macs. I don't want to own something that its own creator thinks is a relic of the past that no-one wants. I was already on the edge all the time, keeping my options open just in case they pull the range, and it's no way to live. I'm a power user, tablets are not good enough, and Id rather stick with someone I'm confident believes in the future of traditional computing.

Too little too late I'm afraid, I already got well into my doubts and shifted to Lenovo and I'm far from the only one. Somehow I think heads will roll somewhere with whoever caused such a huge delay! (Intel?)
 
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albebaubles said:
I've installed it on three minis, a mac pro, an iMac and two MacBook pros with nary a problem.

Regardless, GM is release version wether it runs well on your machine or not.
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I did not say it is not fine in standard mode for the current machines.

GM is release version but it is not release.
 
danielwsmithee said:
As long as those are M.2 drives, SATA inside desktops/workstations need to die!
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Why?

I'm stuffing 24TB in mine. Yes, I actually need that. I'm not a "professional" btw, I just have a a lot of games & a fairly large iTunes library
 
flat five said:
i used to be surprised by that too.. especially in the mac pro forum.
but yeah, you just aren't going to find one of these negativeNancys around here saying they neeeeeed more horsepower then go on to explain why..
the only software they actually use is geekbench etc..

if you want informed/real-world usage conversations about hardware and/or increasing personal productivity, you'll likely find this type of talk in various professional software forums. go figure..
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Oh, Flat Five, how you love to generalize. You're starting to sound like Spiro Agnew.

How about because my REAL MacPros (Not the Trashcan) are all pushing 5 Years old, and despite all the Hot-Rodding I've done, they ain't getting any younger.

Some of us work for a living.
 
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pier said:
Honestly I'd rather have a "low powered" CPU which is much better than the current MBP line (all things considered).
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Depends on which part of the MBP line. The 13" will probably see a speed bump from it. Although, the Quad Core chips in the 15" already match or beat the low powered Kaby Lake in single core. They are stuck waiting on a Quad core part, either way. It's not a speed bump if you switch to a lower powered part with the same performance per core and half the cores.

Although, since we still don't know when Dell is announcing availability (the details are a leak at this point), it's a bit hard to say that Apple needs to announce something to combat leaks from competitors.
 
danielwsmithee said:
As long as those are M.2 drives, SATA inside desktops/workstations need to die!
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Negative. A power laptop today should come with a full SATA/NVME M.2 slot and at least a 12.5mm 2.5" SATA Express slot. An additional M.2 slot for LTE is very desirable.

Much more reason for 3.5" SATA Express desktops/workstations.
 
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