Not at all a fair comparisonYou don't. The people who used old-fashioned candy-bar and flip-phones didn't NEED to upgrade to an iPhone 3G (or later) just to run some apps. One could make phone calls just fine on those older mobile phones. But many millions of people did upgrade to a newer iPhone; and iOS apps became a multi-billion dollar business. Now it's tvOS's turn.
I recently bought an LG 4K OLED and will be getting an AppleTV on day-0. Cause I would have bought it with or without 4K. it was not part of the decision.So I just got a 4K TV and I never really looked until now...this thing doesn't do 4K?
Of course it doesn't, New Apple TV 2 will!
That's indeed quite annoyingAm I the only one who wants to browse through their iCloud Photos on the new Apple TV? I'm disappointed that the ATV 3 still can't do it.
Maybe I'm trying to understand the product more..? Given that this is.. An apple products forum?
Not at all a fair comparison
The iPhone was a leapfrog over old flip phones. Multitouch, apps, new methods of input, sensors, computational power. All leapfrogs in technology.
In contrast, Apple TV 3 is not a "flip phone" when compared to the "iPhone" that is the Apple TV 4
Anyway, I wasn't bemoaning the product. Obviously you guys can buy it if you want it.. I was just wondering if there's any use-case scenario that I'm missing out on if I don't get this new box
Sounds like, from your responses, the only thing is right now: apps and Siri
I can live with that for now
Can you elaborate? I have no problem operating Siri in english and all my Apple devices are set to use english as the system language (but with finnish keyboard). But I live in Finland and Siri does not support finnish. Are you saying I would need to order Apple TV from outside Finland if I want a version with the Siri remote?
I am much more disappointed by the lack of an optical output for audio than the lack of 4K. My gorgeous 4K TV will continue to ba starved, but the 2 channel audio side is much more important to me.
I recently bought an LG 4K OLED and will be getting an AppleTV on day-0. Cause I would have bought it with or without 4K. it was not part of the decision.
Glad I am not alone here! I do not have a 4K TV (shamefully I must say), but I have a nice Denon Amplifier, that is very good at what it does, and I am upset I can not just simply input my Apple TV directly into my Amp. I think I have found a solution, but it is just more cost and hassle I didn't want to deal with.
The big reason here is "unofficial" content apps. If all you do is use the included channels to watch content, and you're fine with that, no need to upgrade. If you want the Apple TV to be able to act as a more generic "media center", and access content in different formats and places, Apps should cover that on the new one. Ironically the new Apple TV will allow a lot more ways to access content (movies, music) outside of Apple's ecosystem. (Ignoring games and such since you don't seem interested).
Yes! This is called "post-purchase rationalization" which is a cognitive bias. It's very similar to "confirmation bias." We are all susceptible to it, and probably suffer from its effects all the time - particularly in this Apple-forum. Surely my decision to buy the ATV4 is highly influenced by my brand-loyalty to Apple and my emotions somewhat. However, it seems some folks suffer from it more than others, and this 4k crowd is a prime example.
I still can't decide between 32 or 64 GB, but excited for Monday!!
WTH are you talking about? People bought 4K TVs because it is better tech and they could really tell the difference. Just because you all use "big words" to talk down to people doesn't mean you know what you are talking about. For the record, I don't have a 4k tv, just because I already have an 60 inch HDTV, but yes, I can see the difference and there's nothing wrong with wanting more content and expecting new TV streaming devices to start supporting it.
Just did that and it says:
Siri, play the song be yourself.
Starting face time with Eileen Pierce mobile
I have tried pausing, saying things slowly, giving the band with the songs , being on wifi
lte , it just doesn't do it for me.
Just assume I am creative enough to word things in different ways.
In my case it doesn't matter what I say.
Stop lying.
Haha.
Why would I make that up? I even had a discussion with another post who has the same experience
trying to figure out if it is my accent, which is actually not very strong.
Give me a phrase to ask and I'll post a screen shot.
I didn't say 4k isn't better. Better doesn't mean it's a standard that will be adopted or that the purchase was well timed. Those 480i HDTVs before HDMI, the ones that had only only composite inputs, those were also better back then. And a whole bunch of suckers bought them.
While speaking at tonight's WSJDLive conference, Apple CEO Tim Cook revealed that the new Apple TV will begin shipping next week. Apple will begin taking orders for the new set-top box on Monday, October 26 with shipments beginning at the end of the week.![]()
The new Apple TV, which Cook also said is the "foundation" for a new type of TV experience, features an A8 processor and either 32 or 64 GB of storage. It also has support for a full App Store, which Apple says will help "modernize" the "linear TV" experience that most consumers are familiar with. The new Apple TV also comes with the brand new Siri Remote, which allows users to use Siri to easily sort and find their favorite TV shows and movies.
The new fourth-generation Apple TV will be available for $149 with 32 GB of storage and $199 with 64 GB of storage.
Article Link: Tim Cook Says New Apple TV Will Ship Next Week, Orders Begin Monday
Can someone with a 4K TV tell me how well the upscaling tech works? I have yet to see a real demo of this in action and does the upscaling work on digital content like iTunes movies or Netflix streams, etc. Or does it only work with physical media like Blu-ray players?
I just don't get it
I watch Netflix and rent iTunes movies and use AirPlay and iCloud music library for music
Why would I need or even just 'want' to upgrade to this?
Especially since the old perfectly capable model is now only just $69
73% of the offered channels are " US ONLY " , Siri is " US ONLY " And still you have to pay 200% more for "more of the same" so stick with the "olde" modell, nothing new on the new one, besides another remote.