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Wow. These Republicans are not remotely self aware if they need serious discussions to figure out why Donald Trump is so popular. The Republican Party has been speaking in code to all the crackpots and racists on the right for decades. And now they act horrified when a candidate finally emerges who doesn't bother trying to conceal the racism and xenophobia? You reap what you sow. RIP GOP.

You mean the racist Donald Trump who voted for Obama in '08 and also said he feels much more comfortable in the Democratic Party? The only reason he is running as an R is he knows he couldn't beat Hillary in a D primary and if he loses to her in a general he is no worse for the wear & will just resume throwing cash at D leadership.

Trump is a D and in the historic tradition of that party.
 
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You mean the racist Donald Trump who voted for Obama in '08 and also said he feels much more comfortable in the Democratic Party? The only reason he is running as an R is he knows he couldn't beat Hillary in a D primary and if he loses to her in a general he is no worse for the wear & will just resume throwing cash at D leadership.

Trump is a D and in the historic tradition of that party.
This monster is 100% your problem (I'm assuming you're a republican based on your racist avatar).
 
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I can't wait to buy an Apple Watch. I'm just waiting to see if one comes out in sept with the 7
7 pro mini plus.
[doublepost=1457411531][/doublepost]So much for politics....more politics these days. I just want to see the reactions of members after they watch keynote. LOL.
 
you are willfully ignorant of the discriminations represented by those who call Muslims "Moslims"

Be an adult and call them "Muslims".

Part of being an adult is deciding for yourself how you wish to speak, to think, to feel and to be. If I wish to use a common spelling, irrespective of how that spelling has been turned into a catchword of political correctness, then I will do so. If that offends you, you can ignore me or block my posts.
 
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America simply isn't smart enough for a candidate like Sanders, in my opinion.

LOL. We're smarter than to vote for a guy that will raise all of our taxes to give out more free stuff. The poor and middle class, already struggling will need to pay MORE in taxes. How does that help anyone?

Just because you went to "college" and got some nonsense degree doesn't mean you get to earn lots of $$. Some degrees suck and are barely better than a HS Diploma. That's the fact of life.

Sanders just wants to start a class war rather than get people to focus on bettering themselves. This is America where the kid from the ghetto can make it rich with hard work and determination. Sadly that is lacking today - everyone is looking for the handouts.
 
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Part of being an adult is deciding for yourself how you wish to speak, to think, to feel and to be. If I wish to use a common spelling, irrespective of how that spelling has been turned into a catchword of political correctness, then I will do so. If that offends you, you can ignore me or block my posts.
"As an adult, I have the right to act like a racist child". That's what you just said.
 
Here's what I want to know...

If the military industrial machine truly runs this country, like we've been told since JFK was mowed down, then how is Trump even still a candidate, let alone killing it? He's not part of their game. Is it all just a ploy to make the true candidate of the military industrial complex become the defacto choice? And isn't that choice Hillary? Is their ploy backfiring?

If this were a movie, I'd be expecting someone to take Trump out, somehow, some way, pretty soon now.
 
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LOL. We're smarter than to vote for a guy that will raise all of our taxes to give out more free stuff. The poor and middle class, already struggling will need to pay MORE in taxes. How does that help anyone?

Just because you went to "college" and got some nonsense degree doesn't mean you get to earn lots of $$. Some degrees suck and are barely better than a HS Diploma. That's the fact of life.

As he said...
 
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The real tragedy is that the Republican party has created this mess themselves, by failing to fund the single most important aspect of the success of any country -- education of their children. Trump's primary audience are the "poorly educated". It's no wonder he loves them. And it's the quality of education received I'd question in those supporters who have college degrees and above. At this point they've made their bed by keeping their constituency in the dark, from questioning their overall agendas. And now they are paying the price for a poorly educated support base who are growing frustrated by following their anointed leaders into the abyss of unregulated banks and other failures of government.

This is patently false.

The US spends more money per child than most any other country in the world, and we're losing in the final analysis! To say what you said shows that you're either ignorant of the education problems, or you've just given up and taken to drinking somebody's liberal kool-aid. Have you seen what passes for education in our government schools?

Aaah, but what do you expect when you put the government in charge of anything? That is why nearly everybody in my family is sending their kids to parochial schools or charter schools.

Your kid might be on the honor roll like that bumper sticker says, but our kids are turning out brilliant because the government is not in our way. And no participation awards are necessary!
 
The US spends more money per child than most any other country in the world, and we're losing in the final analysis! To say what you said shows that you're either ignorant of the education problems, or you've just given up and taken to drinking somebody's liberal kool-aid. Have you seen what passes for education in our government schools?

I take it you're not a fan of Common Core? You'd rather there be something like a state level initiative for education?
 
LOL. We're smarter than to vote for a guy that will raise all of our taxes to give out more free stuff. The poor and middle class, already struggling will need to pay MORE in taxes. How does that help anyone?
Yeah, it's much better to have the guys in power, who raise your taxes, and then give the money to their rich buddies.
 
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They don't get the public is upset at a progressive agenda pushed that would not have passed a national referendum.

This is the 1980 election all over again.

The question they really need to ask is not how to stop Trump but how to work with him when he is President.

Out in the beyond, Steve Jobs is laughing his ass off seeing the most disruptive President since Teddy Roosevelt arriving.
 
Yeah, it's much better to have the guys in power, who raise your taxes, and then give the money to their rich buddies.

If there's all this extra money laying around, as Sanders claims why raise taxes? Re-appropriate it.

Personally I say do away with Income tax. Flat 10% (or whatever) on everything you buy. Rich buy their rich person stuff that costs lots and they pay lots. Middle buy their average stuff and pay an average rate. Poor buy cheaper stuff and pay less. Should brung in more $$ too as money has to be spent to live....
 
Because as hard as this might be to believe, his policies and platform make him look more like a 60's Republican than a 10's Democrat.
Do tell. Start naming them. Cause what I've seen he's about as loony as a Birkenstock Wearing Hippie.
 
Yeah, because Obama's really been as bad as Bush. :rolleyes:

Yeah pretty much. Even worse when you consider that legislation forcing Americans to buy a product many do not want, from a private company got passed under his watch. This same legislation that does nothing to address the root cause of the problem.
 
As a progressive, I have no sympathy for them and I actually think Trump *could* be less destructive than another Republican president.

The Republicans painted themselves into a corner where they had nothing to run on but things people don't really like. If you're agains everything that Obama is for for 8 years, what can you run on? You have to be for something. It was ripe for a takeover.

Trump is running on racist rhetoric. Whether he's making a mockery of Republican voters and doesn't actually believe that or not, who really knows--I tend to think he doesn't believe what he says.

What is this grand alternative to Trump? A compassionate conservative from a political dynasty like George W. Bush who brought us a war that killed thousands of Americans along with a torture camp and who oversaw the worst terrorist attack on the US ever along with the greatest economic recession since the Great Depression? That's what an establishment Republican got us.

The thing about Trump is that he is not running on Republican or Democratic values. He is the first major candidate I can think of in about 4 decades to question the wisdom of free trade deals--something both Republicans and Democrats have brought to the table. That's one reason he's a threat to multi-national companies like Apple.

I'm not a Trump apologist, but I am no more an apologist for those who have manipulated the government into creating trade deals that have hurt Americans without providing for a redistribution of the growing wealth caused by free trade. Free trade increases wealth. I don't dispute that. But it changes the division of labor from being mostly within a country to being among countries, and so whoever is best suited for a certain type of work within a country will benefit, while the most ill-suited will suffer. Free trade is good in that it brings wealth to developing countries. But both developed and developing countries need safeguards for the factors of production that suffer in free trade, and we haven't had that. Instead marginal tax rates have gone down and effective corporate tax rates have effectively disappeared in the cases of some companies.
 
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