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Time to move on from Apple iPhone...

sotorious said:
3g was just starting to become apparent then not everyone knew what 3g was at that time.
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You're thinking of 3G dumbphones.

Almost every American smartphone at the time was 3G.

Secondly, much of the rest of the smartphone-buying world had been using 3G for years, and some had trouble finding EDGE coverage for the first iPhone.

aneftp said:
Apple purposely launched an EDGE only iPhone in 2007 purely for test purposes so if iPhone was "success" they could cheaply "update" to iPhone 3G (2008) with practically zero costs in terms of R and D which they did for huge profits.
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Exactly. Apple launched without 3G primarily to save on R&D, chip and licensing costs... along with critically being able to negotiate a less expensive data plan for buyers. Battery and lack of coverage were secondary reasons.
 
kdarling said:
Exactly. Apple launched without 3G primarily to save on R&D, chip and licensing costs... along with critically being able to negotiate a less expensive data plan for buyers. Battery and lack of coverage were secondary reasons.
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Do you have any information to back this up or is it a guess you're passing off as fact?
 
kdarling said:
You're thinking of 3G dumbphones.

Almost every American smartphone at the time was 3G.

Secondly, much of the rest of the smartphone-buying world had been using 3G for years, and some had trouble finding EDGE coverage for the first iPhone.



Exactly. Apple launched without 3G primarily to save on R&D, chip and licensing costs... along with critically being able to negotiate a less expensive data plan for buyers. Battery and lack of coverage were secondary reasons.
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I think the 2G was introduced as a test phone for the market to see how well they can do in the mobile industry. Then, they would not have to spend much money to upgrade to the 3G since the iPhone 3G added mainly a 3G and GPS chip.
 
rockyroad55 said:
I think the 2G was introduced as a test phone for the market to see how well they can do in the mobile industry. Then, they would not have to spend much money to upgrade to the 3G since the iPhone 3G added mainly a 3G and GPS chip.
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So you admit that 3G could have gone in the 1st iPhone without a drawback?
 
SeaChange said:
Don't really know or care what Apple does with Macs, but is any one else moving on to other smartphones because Apple is determined to keep behind in technology? Of course the iPhone would be a full year behind on 4G just so they can "save" that as new feature for the 2012. That is all Apple does...release phones with outdated specs so then adding them later and calling it in upgrade when it has been other phones for ages. Just like the excuse of not having Flash...who cares if it will be obsolete soon if we still need it to browsing webpages today? /endrant
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Meh, if the iPhone no longer fits your needs then by all means get something else. No need to be all melodramatic about it.:p
 
ucfgrad93 said:
Meh, if the iPhone no longer fits your needs then by all means get something else. No need to be all melodramatic about it.:p
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Indeed! Quit whining like an android owner on hold with tech support! If iPhone and Apple no longer makes sense for you put down your keyboard on this forum and go away! Just because you are an unimpressive child doesn't mean we have to listen to you all over the place!

Go and be well. Please!
 
SeaChange said:
So you admit that 3G could have gone in the 1st iPhone without a drawback?
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Jesus Christ, are you serious? You want this guy, who had nothing to do with the hardware or software design of the original iPhone, to concede that Apple purposely withheld 3G hardware? How the hell would he even know?

I tend to believe Apple's version as the next year a bunch of low power 3G options came out. As well, RIM didn't even believe Apple could make a phone that got the battery life it did (
http://www.macstories.net/links/in-2007-rim-thought-the-iphone-was-impossible/ )

RIM had a complete internal panic when Apple unveiled the iPhone in 2007, a former employee revealed this weekend. The BlackBerry maker is now known to have held multiple all-hands meetings on January 10 that year, a day after the iPhone was on stage, and to have made outlandish claims about its features. Apple was effectively accused of lying as it was supposedly impossible that a device could have such a large touchscreen but still get a usable lifespan away from a power outlet.
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vistadude said:
I think most people agree that the iPhone is a great phone. It's reasonably fast, the interface is intuitive, and the hardware is thin and decent looking.

But after 3-4 years of the same form factor and basically a small evolution of the iPhone OS, it's getting boring. The app store may be huge, but there are only a handful of good apps. And those apps serve a purpose, but don't really make the phone so fun to use. A lot of us want a totally new OS, with new gestures, a new looking set of icons or desktop which we flick through in a different way. We want widgets and changes which make the iPhone seem more real time rather than a bunch of app shortcuts. I think that's why a lot of us want to try something new like windows phone 7 or webOS, but so far the hardware for those OS's just isn't as good as the iPhone. Android has improved considerably but no one wants a phone full of bloatware, bad skins, and limited memory. I think many of us could agree we want apple to completely change the OS, like an OS 9 to OS X upgrade.
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I disagree. I don't see the reason to change something just to change it. If it works for what it does and there is not a better solution to make it even more efficient at the time, then no, I don't want it changed just for the sake of being changed!

It should only be changed cause the new way is some way better and improved.

Of course, in the name of making money, this hardly ever happens cause they have to do something different to encourage people to buy the new product.

But you know, I respect companies that actually try to keep what works and only change what doesn't (or has a newer thing now out that would make it better).
 
Goldinboy17 said:
The flash arguement is getting really old. I have a few Android devices that run flash - it's NOT a big deal. I rarely come across a page webpage that requires it anyways. I can honestly say though that it hardly degrades performance, but I do prefer HTML5 and its seemless quality. I'm on AT&T so the 4G LTE wont' affect me. I can understand a Verizon users frustration though - I'd be pissed if the next iPhone didn't include HSPA+. If you want a phone that will be the best in the market for more than a few months you better keep dreaming. With the pace technology has been advancing a "better" phone is just around the corner. Personally though the iPhone is just too convenient for me to walk away from permanently. With it I'm guaranteed a phone that will be updated and simply work for at the very least a year and a half. Unless you're using a Nexus device it's a hit or miss with Android devices. You can always upgrade the ROM on your own but it can be a real pain the...
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And your point is?
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_8 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8E401 Safari/6533.18.5)

4G isn't really an issue right now. I'd have to drive an hour from where I live before it'd even be available. Apple has the right idea, let the technology improve before implementing it in iPhones. Let the androids do the testing. I don't get why people want a bigger screen. That's one of the things I hate about android phones is that they are all in a race to have the larger screen.
 
SeaChange said:
Yep, there is absolutley no way I'm sticking with Apple in 2011...maybe I'll come after back after a year of giving Android a try. We'll see how that goes.

Hey when did you graduate from UGA? I went there too.
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Goodbye...don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out...:D
 
Some of you are missing the point

Me thinks many of you that are complaining about the iPhone without thinking what the reason many people buy the iPhone, is it because of the hundreds of thousands of app's in the App store.

Yes it may be a liitle behind with a few things but surely it makes up for this with the App for pretty much everything.:confused:
 
These posts are old, and tired. If you don't like the phone, then get a different one. Who cares? I think people post these things to make themselves feel better. Some kind of justification, or confirmation that they're doing the right thing.

I had an HP 8430, and a DELL Latitude D620 for a while. When I decided to jump to Apple, I didn't go on the DELL or HP boards stating "I'm leaving! I can't take it any more! These laptops are no longer built with quality!!!" I just moved on, and that was it.

If you think Android is the better OS, and that HTC, Moto, et-al are better handsets, then have fun. Knock yourself out!
 
mickyoung said:
Me thinks many of you that are complaining about the iPhone without thinking what the reason many people buy the iPhone, is it because of the hundreds of thousands of app's in the App store.

Yes it may be a liitle behind with a few things but surely it makes up for this with the App for pretty much everything.:confused:
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Exactly. That, and the entire experience; ecosystem [App Store], investment in that ecosystem [apps, music, etc.], and the experience of the phone itself [ease of use, battery life, support]. It's the whole thing.

Many of the Pro Android fans [like those on the boards/forums at other sites, and here] look at one thing; specs. "Oh look at the hardware! Dual Core, bigger screen, blah blah blah. In the end, they have a big phone, poor battery life, fewer apps, and inconsistent OS versions, depending on the make of the phone and carrier it's on. Not worth it IMO.
 
You know contracts are on a 1-2 year renewal cycle. Why would I want a new phone coming out every 3-4 months? Not everyone can afford to pay full price when there contract isnt out yet. But since you seem to have so much money, have fun with android and changing phones every 3 months!

At least Apple still supports their old phones, most Android phones lose support the day they are released.
 
tjb1 said:
You know contracts are on a 1-2 year renewal cycle. Why would I want a new phone coming out every 3-4 months? Not everyone can afford to pay full price when there contract isnt out yet. But since you seem to have so much money, have fun with android and changing phones every 3 months!

At least Apple still supports their old phones, most Android phones lose support the day they are released.
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Reminds me of that buy back commercial where the woman with the tablet screams "I just bought this one!"
 
SeaChange said:
Still not an acceptable reason. It would be acceptable if Apple updated phones more often than once a year. And yes I know my phone will never be on top of technology scale for long, but the next iPhone will already be outdated before it is even released and that is unacceptable.

Oh yeah how about giving us a choice of larger screens as well. I'm tired of sub 4 inch screens as well.

I have owned every iPhone so far, but Apple is not keeping up with its competitors.
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Look, if you want a bigger phone with worse battery life then go buy one. They're out there for people like you. But that's not what the iPhone is all about.

To complain that the iPhone is designed to be small and work smoothly is a dumb complaint. That's what Apple wants it to be so that's what it is. And more to the point that's what the iPhone has always been. This thread is 4 years late if that's your problem. Why are you just bringing that fact up now?
 
I bought the Motorala Atrix about 2 weeks ago. In comparison the retina display a bit cleaner, but I gladly give that up for the .5" bigger display. It Makes watching video so much more enjoyable. As far as operating systems go Android seems more buggy than iOS, but I have already rooted the phone and installed a custom operating system. So all in all I am very happy with my move to Android.

Oh yeah the biggest gripe is I really need to find an easier way to sync my all my data. I'm sure it exists, but probably not on the level of iTunes.
 
SeaChange said:
I bought the Motorala Atrix about 2 weeks ago. In comparison the retina display a bit cleaner, but I gladly give that up for the .5" bigger display. It Makes watching video so much more enjoyable. As far as operating systems go Android seems more buggy than iOS, but I have already rooted the phone and installed a custom operating system. So all in all I am very happy with my move to Android.

Oh yeah the biggest gripe is I really need to find an easier way to sync my all my data. I'm sure it exists, but probably not on the level of iTunes.
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I personally had the atrix and loved the fingerprint reader and larger screen, but I could not stand the plasticky feel of the device and the retina display did look a bit better.
 
You guys have fun counting specs. I'm satisfied knowing that iOS/iPhone has not failed me once. No random reboots, Freezing, etc: I can't say that about any other device I've had from WM, BB and Android.
 
Droid is a line of highend smart phones based on the android OS running on verizon wireless CDMA network.

Android OS is an opensource OS developed by the open handset alliance.

These two words are not Interchangeable.
 
Anyone who legitamately think that flash has a place on mobile devices is absolutely clueless. Obviously they are not web developers, and they do not understand why Flash is DYING.

H.264 is the new flash and it CAN run on the iPhone, android, etc. Hell, the fact that youtube converted to H.264 gave it 40 some percent of the web's videos.

Speak to any web developer. 99% of them will look at you in terror if you ask if they enjoy developing flash websites. It's unfeasible in today's market.

Apple killed Flash, and i love every second of it. Flash is fragmented, and crashed even desktop browsers. It's just clunky and outdated. It was nice and revolutionary in the ninties for websites like ebaumsworld.com but there's no use for it now.

This was a report in March 2010. Flash's market value is only DECREASING. It's nearly nonexistent now.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...m6iDDg&usg=AFQjCNEcIU5U29I2-yv8I4wnsEWFgS6q3A


EDIT: I just saw the original date of this post. Sorry lol.
 
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