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Why are these things always reported for every new Apple product? Is this really newsworthy? Slow news day? Stop the presses....Apple is shipping it's new item to customers.

Wtf? I def want to know that they're shipping out ahead of schedule, and bet a lot of other people want to know. Lots of joy if some late orders can shave a week of their delivery. Sheesh.
 
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Same here but mine now shows as departed:

Shanghai, China 11/13/2016 5:59 A.M. Departure Scan

Ah, mine too. But the estimated arrival is still "not available at this time" so no telling if it's still on track for the 14th or not. Guess we'll find out soon.
 
Or that the gripes and complaints of the vocal minority are just that - a very vocal minority. Who have contributed absolutely nothing except make the forums more toxic and unpleasant.

While these critics are complaining about how the new MacBook pros lack this feature or can't do that, people will be unwrapping their new laptops and putting them through their paces.

And I can think of no better way to rub this irony in the critics' faces than to see all those customers happily using and enjoying their New MacBook Pros.

I cannot wait to drink in their tears of impotent rage and humiliation.
Very well spoken indeed - BIG +1 to that.
 
I just want to reliably use USB-C with Macbooks. The USB-C to HDMI dongle is getting HORRIBLE reviews with shoddy video out, and seems third party HDMI dongles aren't much better. Watch this:
Started to watch and then realized it's an hour and 19 minutes. Haha, looking for something a less drawn out.
 
I just want to reliably use USB-C with Macbooks. The USB-C to HDMI dongle is getting HORRIBLE reviews with shoddy video out, and seems third party HDMI dongles aren't much better. Watch this:
This idiot need to just visit iFixit to see smart people take the rig apart. Man that was painful to listen to.
 
so who bought all 10 MacBooks that were in stock?
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This idiot need to just visit iFixit to see smart people take the rig apart. Man that was painful to listen to.

not defending him or anything, but his channel is dedicated to nothing but repairing mostly MacBook motherboards ands is typically more helpful than any apple 'genius' there could ever be.
 
so who bought all 10 MacBooks that were in stock?
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not defending him or anything, but his channel is dedicated to nothing but repairing mostly MacBook motherboards ands is typically more helpful than any apple 'genius' there could ever be.
Watch it before you judge. It's worse than laughable. He acts like a complete infant and sounds incredibly stupid. This entire rig has already been fully ripped apart by iFixit without any issues... especially none of this guys amateur hour comments.
 
Well, I've been checking YouTube reviews (it has been properly brought to my attention that neither of these are really reviews) of these new MacBook Pros, and although I will of course delay judgement until I have one in my own little grubby hands, the reviews so far appear to be overwhelmingly (and I do mean overwhelmingly!) negative. *sigh*

Here is one. Short. (Bitter)Sweet. Concise. Insightful. Not a rant:

And another one simply because it made me laugh (this one is a rant):
 
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Well, I've been checking YouTube reviews of these new MacBook Pros, and although I will of course delay judgement until I have one in my own little grubby hands, the reviews so far appear to be overwhelmingly (and I do mean overwhelmingly!) negative. *sigh*

Here is one. Short. (Bitter)Sweet. Concise.

And another one simply because it made me laugh:

The Asian Aussie mentions , and many, many other people mention no one wants it... yet it's sold out , and generated more revenue than all other laptops combined. CLEARLY people wanted it, or else they wouldn't have purchased it. It's time to stop crying like babies and accept it, this is what it is, deal or gtfo.
 
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This has to be the worst launch Apple ever did. Not saying about the product but about their supply chain. Yesterday I went to 2 Apple Stores and they don't even have the new MacBook on display. I was told it may take another 2 weeks for them to get one to display. How is that possible? Not even an Apple Store gets one?
+1. Very, very odd. Why wouldn't Apple want people in stores trying them out to generate orders. My best guess is supply is very low and it doesn't help them to have orders at this point. Really pathetic they can't have new laptops ready for the holidays. Ditto the iPhone 7 plus which remains 3-4 weeks out. I thought Cook was the master of supply chain?
 
I just want to reliably use USB-C with Macbooks. The USB-C to HDMI dongle is getting HORRIBLE reviews with shoddy video out, and seems third party HDMI dongles aren't much better. Watch this:

I have a 12" Macbook that I use for work and often have to present at client sites. I have the Apple USB-C to HDMI adapter and it works about 65% of the time. I constantly have to either travel with 2 laptops in the event it doesn't work or rely on co-workers with PC's or older macs. I have two adapters, one for my office and one for travel and they both have the same issues.

I have been hopeful the increased visibility of the issue that is coming with the release of the Pro would lead to a fix but when my Pro arrives this week I have no expectations it is any better than the 12" at first.
 
I have a 12" Macbook that I use for work and often have to present at client sites. I have the Apple USB-C to HDMI adapter and it works about 65% of the time. I constantly have to either travel with 2 laptops in the event it doesn't work or rely on co-workers with PC's or older macs. I have two adapters, one for my office and one for travel and they both have the same issues.

I have been hopeful the increased visibility of the issue that is coming with the release of the Pro would lead to a fix but when my Pro arrives this week I have no expectations it is any better than the 12" at first.
Get a different adapter or hub. I bought a hub with HDMI, 2 USB-A ports and power and haven't noticed any issues connecting to HDMI displays from a new MBP wo touch bar.
 
The Asian Aussie mentions , and many, many other people mention no one wants it... yet it's sold out , and generated more revenue than all other laptops combined. CLEARLY people wanted it, or else they wouldn't have purchased it. It's time to stop crying like babies and accept it, this is what it is, deal or gtfo.

If sales numbers have anything to do with quality then Apple actually made complete crap for nearly all of their existence. See, you can't have it both ways. Do you believe that sales=quality? (In which case why are you making the argument you just made since obviously by your reasoning Microsoft makes the best OS?). It's far too easy to sell crap to the ignorant.

I have historically been a big fan of Apple (have supported their OS and equipment since the mid/late 80's). I will not now, nor will I ever, be a fanboi however. If their OS and equipment are going to heck, then I refuse to stick my head in the sand and pretend otherwise. And, as I mentioned, I will reserve my final judgement until I get some substantial time with the equipment.
 
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Well, I've been checking YouTube reviews of these new MacBook Pros, and although I will of course delay judgement until I have one in my own little grubby hands, the reviews so far appear to be overwhelmingly (and I do mean overwhelmingly!) negative. *sigh*

Here is one. Short. (Bitter)Sweet. Concise.

And another one simply because it made me laugh:


Umm..they aren't reviews. Neither of those guys have even touched the new MacBook Pros. They are just video rants. Like we get here at MR in text form.

Here is a review by someone who has actually used the machine for a week. Doesn't fit with the entitled whiner view though...
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/12894856

"For me, I love it and I think most people will do too... once they actually touch it."
 
I have a 12" Macbook that I use for work and often have to present at client sites. I have the Apple USB-C to HDMI adapter and it works about 65% of the time. I constantly have to either travel with 2 laptops in the event it doesn't work or rely on co-workers with PC's or older macs. I have two adapters, one for my office and one for travel and they both have the same issues.

I have been hopeful the increased visibility of the issue that is coming with the release of the Pro would lead to a fix but when my Pro arrives this week I have no expectations it is any better than the 12" at first.

That's a really sad indictment of this company lately.

Apple is trying to pass off cost-cutting as forward-thinking. But people are rightfully seeing through it when the alternative solutions aren't as convenient, practical, reliable (as demonstrated here) or even present at all (such as MagSafe and optical audio, both of which I love).

I know it's cliche to say "Steve Jobs would never..." but I honestly believe that MagSafe is one of those things he would've tried to keep. If not as a dedicated port then Apple could've designed a MagSafe charging cable that worked in any of the USB-C ports and bundled that with the computer. But they didn't because that's too much effort or costs too much apparently.

The situation with audio is a joke. If Apple really want to push lightning headphones, how hard would it have been to include a lightning port? It's pretty god-damned slim. They moved the headphone jack from a convenient location (closer to the user on the left side) to just about the most inconvenient location possible for headphone use; as far away on the right side as possible as if they're trying to hide it but didn't have the "courage" to drop it yet. Not only that they removed optical audio (which I use and love) for no other reason than (I guess) cost-cutting.

Also, where Apple used to use the best Intel CPUs with Iris Pro graphics in the 15", they've now downgraded to using the Intel HD integrated graphics, which is, you guessed it, cheaper! The list price of the lowest-end 2.2 GHz i7 used in the 2015 model with Iris Pro 5200 (4770HQ) is $434 per tray while the price of the 2.6 GHz i7 with Intel HD 530 (6700HQ) is only $378 per tray. This may mean the computer has to switch to using dedicated graphics more often or the UI may feel more sluggish before it switches. Perhaps the efficiency of the AMD chips means they can get away with the poorer Intel graphics and the user experience is the same or better but I'd want to see performance tests and the graphics switching in practise before making up my mind. One of the great things about the 2015 model is it still "feels" nice and fluid with battery switching enabled and on battery power, while still getting excellent battery life (8-9 hours). It'd be a shame if that end-user experience went backwards because they cheapened out on Intel chips.

What this all seems to suggest is that cost cutting was needed to make up for the shiny new touch bar and Touch ID while still maintaining their very healthy profit margins. There are many savings compared to the previous model. Smaller chassis means less aluminium (an expensive metal), fewer (and smaller) ports means quicker machining. Simpler display (removing glowing logo) should be quicker and easier to manufacture. Much smaller battery is a significant cost saving. There's the cheaper CPU, loss of MagSafe optical digital and likely many other cost savings. This in order to get a touch bar and associated controller chips, Touch ID, bigger trackpad and better screen.

There are positives with the new machines obviously, but cost aside I'm now in the position where I have think long and hard (and make a decision table) to decide if I want or would be happy with this new version in comparison to the former, where previously I wouldn't have had to give it a second thought because the new ones are just always better in every way.

I've more or less convinced myself through the writing of this post that I'm going to stick with my former rMBP for now and that the benefits in the new model don't outweigh the potential disadvantages, especially as they relate to the choice of CPU, the lack of optical audio and the position of the headphone jack.
 
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Why are these things always reported for every new Apple product? Is this really newsworthy? Slow news day? Stop the presses....Apple is shipping it's new item to customers.
It's a Saturday. Most Saturdays we get nothing. I think that's the definition of a slow news day.
 
Microsoft Surface Studio announced the day before and ready to demo in Microsoft stores that same day. Apple won't demo it until customers receive it. Sounds like they are afraid of reviews hampering sales.
I too find it curious that Apple haven't even given their customers the chance to try it instore before committing a serious amount of money.
Even more curious are the reported record number of people that have preordered without trying it.
Not something I would do. Hope it meets everyone's expectations!
I'm waiting for some reviews to come in before dropping that much money. I wouldn't buy anything this expensive without being able to have some hands on time with it first
 
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