I actually wonder, if Apple still has any of the engineers left...
In my opinion: mediocre designers took over the engineering department long ago.
Tim Cooking innovation... ;(
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I actually wonder, if Apple still has any of the engineers left...
In my opinion: mediocre designers took over the engineering department long ago.
Tim Cooking innovation... ;(
Nope. I have a TB2 dock from OWC, but also pre-ordered that TB3 dock for my new machine.
I didn't call you and entitled whiner, just characterising a lot of the complaints that I've read here! I guess as a 12" Macbook owner I've discovered what a non-issue it is having only USB-C.
Im typing on the 12" Macbook keyboard as we speak. I actually prefer it over my 2013 rMBP. I heard that the new 2016 rMBPs have a bit more travel than these MacBooks though, which is what a lot of people haven't liked.
I just saw the touchbar rMBP in a sealed glass case in the Apple retail store. It looks really nice (aesthetically). But I already know it's gonna suck because I tried the non-touchbar version... The keyboard is trash, like the retina MacBook's. They made it super shallow, so the keys almost don't push down at all when you press them, making it incredibly hard to type on unless your fingernails have just been trimmed. Even then, I can't imagine it being very good because it feels like typing on an iPad screen. Darn. MacBooks keyboards used to be among the best on the market, and now they're among the worst.
The Apple Pencil with iPad, on the other hand, was pretty impressive, but I have no use for it. I guess I'll be buying a used 2015 rMBP eventually.
I took the opportunity to visit my local Apple Store. Unfortunately they still didn't have the new MBPs with touch bar, but I did try the new keyboard on the non-touch bar 13" model. When I tried the MBP keyboard first and then the keyboard on the MB, I found it difficult to tell the difference. When I tried the MB and then the MBP, I could tell the difference in feel on the new MBP. It feels like there is more travel and it offers more tactile response. I would have to use it for a while to find out how well I could adapt to it, but I think it would be manageable.
I really would give it a try. The older keyboards just feel archaic to me now, it is quite literally a complete non issue. Hard to explain it but it truly is just a matter of getting used to, then typing is lightning fast on the new platform. I will disclose that it did take about a week to truly get used to it, but then there is no going back.
how long you think Apple will take the time to sell toucher keyboards for iMacs and Mac Minis around the world?
You don't think humans have the capacity to see something and understand that it's not practical?
I've used an iPad to type, and guess what? it sucks.
In the same fashion as an iPad, you'll have to take your eyes away from the screen to look down at the keyboard to see what key you're touching. Nothing will ever beat tactile keys in the realm of typing with your hands.
Watch how painfully delicate the tech blogger from The Verge is while typing, and keep track of how many times he has to hit the touch bar multiple times because he failed hitting the button correctly.
I refuse to pay $600 more for a down grade in productivity. Just because Tim Cook and the rest of his out of touch senior citizen team thinks it's cool, doesn't make it better.
So please, enough with the touch bar already.
Do you guys think I can go to best buy this Wednesday and buy a MacBook Pro 13" touch bar without any fuss? Will they have them on Wednesday in stock?
My nearby Fry's has the new machines in stock.
For $2,799.00, shipping is back ordered but will go out by the 28th. Seems that in-store pickup/purchase is available. Will have to call them tomorrow and ask them to clarify. Same price as Apple. I suspect if you can grab the new machine from BH Photo Video, you can get by without paying sales tax. Though you are supposed to inform your state of your purchase and pay the tax. Wink wink nod nod. And then purchase Apple Care separately from Apple before your 1 year period is up.
For $2,799.00, shipping is back ordered but will go out by the 28th. Seems that in-store pickup/purchase is available. Will have to call them tomorrow and ask them to clarify. Same price as Apple. I suspect if you can grab the new machine from BH Photo Video, you can get by without paying sales tax. Though you are supposed to inform your state of your purchase and pay the tax. Wink wink nod nod. And then purchase Apple Care separately from Apple before your 1 year period is up.
…which has nothing to do with the Touch Bar and might simply be his personal style of typing.
Five times. Exactly five times. At 0:30, 0:35, 0:48, 2:43 and 2:53. That's by far outnumbered by the times his touches are registered instantly and correctly.
So I was watching this video again, and he says "I can touch this, I can drag that, I can select that" and I thought, you know what? I can just go ahead and buy a competitor's laptop with a touch screen and I don't have to look down to manipulate a setting that I want to access on the screen. If they want to replicate the phone/ipad experience, then let the screen be touched and build it to survive finger contact. The touch bar is more time consuming than a mouse/touchpad most of the time I'd guess.
See, the thing about heuristics is people will go down the path of least resistance and if it takes two taps to get a touchbar to go, it will die a rapid death. As people said, tactile immovable keys are great - motor-sensory memory is paramount - and the keys should be fairly conserved, even standardised IMHO. The exception is control keys and key combinations which we learn sparingly depending on our work flow, like programmers who learn many control key sequences to speed things up. If the tactile keys themselves had OLED or e-Paper display, then I would understand the idea of, say, displaying different language keys, or replacing function keys with emojis or whatever else people want to do. For that I'd pay $600, actually.
Whereas if I can emulate a single button mouse by touching the screen in a Dell XPS running OSX in a virtual machine, then I have something that beats a touch-bar, on competitor hardware! Go figure!
So that is awesome... why they hell does it have a proprietary power connector. Ok it's a pretty standard Jack... but can't it take power from the Thunderbolt. or use a USB C for power?
That's 3 mishits in 18 (and 2 in 10) secs...
Given his tone of voice, the guy is too excited/overexposed to control his actions anyway
In such circumstances, only a truly intuitive UI would work
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Update: Mine just shipped a few hours ago. Will be here Friday. Hopefully yours isn't too far behind!
I am not happy with the prices, but finally gave in, as I need to replace my 2009 iMac to do some data analytics work.
Tried the non touch bar in the store. Have no issue with the keyboard, and for my use case it seems enough (don't need the emoji bar....)
Went with the cheapest config I could have for my work. Then setup an old quad core linux/hadoop server at home for remote access when I need extreme performance. It might have actually be the best setup, as I will replace the iMac with a mini or new iMac if I like the next version of them.
It is a beautiful machine, and it performs quite nicely compared to the 2015 13".
Just got a Samsung T3 for storage, and the darn thing flies. Now, if any could please come out with a USB-C hub with DP 4K@60hz support, I would be Golden....
Nevertheless, I am starting to move software licenses to the cloud....this might be my last apple machine if they keep the horrible attitude of the post-SteveJobs era....
Tried the non touch bar in the store. Have no issue with the keyboard, and for my use case it seems enough (don't need the emoji bar....)
Went with the cheapest config I could have for my work. Then setup an old quad core linux/hadoop server at home for remote access when I need extreme performance. It might have actually be the best setup, as I will replace the iMac with a mini or new iMac if I like the next version of them.
It is a beautiful machine, and it performs quite nicely compared to the 2015 13".
Just got a Samsung T3 for storage, and the darn thing flies. Now, if any could please come out with a USB-C hub with DP 4K@60hz support, I would be Golden....
Nevertheless, I am starting to move software licenses to the cloud....this might be my last apple machine if they keep the horrible attitude of the post-SteveJobs era....