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That Touch ID could very well have been incorporated in the side button, like the iPad. It does not have to be some fancy in-display technology when their iPad lineup comes with in-button technology.
 
Apple Watch does not help when you are standing in a crowded line at a store to check out since it does not work for Apple Pay. You have to pull off your mask to operate the phone in the one location where you do not want to pull off your mask in order to make your purchase. Plus, everybody around you is freaking out that you are removing your mask. Sort of defeats the purpose of Apple Pay when it is quicker to just insert your credit card.
What? If you have an Apple Watch, it does help because you use it for Apple Pay. Phone never leaves the pocket and face or touch ID not needed.
 
We don’t need Touch ID anymore than we need to bring back floppy drives. Move on. Move along. Literally nothing to see here. Face ID is a million times smarter, faster and more convenient. Finding one use scenarios where Touch ID is ‘better’ is not a reason to build all that tech into a phone again. That is all.
No interest in Face ID and not required. My opinion of course...
 
Now you need yet another Apple device to unlock your device. 🤦‍♀️

You'd be surprised. People have been of the opinion that since they have an Apple Watch that they can use to unlock phones and computers anyway, we don't need Touch ID even on the Mac!

The confusion between 'me' and 'we' is strong, especially in owners of Apple Watch.
 
You'd be surprised. People have been of the opinion that since they have an Apple Watch that they can use to unlock phones and computers anyway, we don't need Touch ID even on the Mac!

The confusion between 'me' and 'we' is strong, especially in owners of Apple Watch.
I own an Apple Watch, and even I don’t think that it’s an adequate substitute.

Apple Watch unlock is slow and unreliable. And turning on unlock while wearing a face mask with iOS 14.7 breaks unlocking the Apple Watch with Face ID, so it has really become a bad compromise.
 
I have no interest in having Touch ID back on my iphone. It used to work for me on the phone, but for some reason not on my 16" MacBook Pro. I have re-entered my fingerprint multiple times and it stops working after the first try or two.
 
I just don’t get it. The tech is there and it is stable. Apple still puts out high quality products, but as far as innovation goes, they are falling further and further behind.
 
Is there any case for under-screen-touch-ID being better than iPad-Air-style-lock-button-touch-ID beyond "it's cool"?

The whole idea just sounds kind of hare-brained, expensive, and buggy; and now that lock-button is proven to work, pointless.

(I have no interest in a 13 over this 12 but I would upgrade for lock-touch-ID)
 
What a huge disappointment. Company I work for now requires masks for all (vaccinated and unvaccinated) and doesn’t seem to be changing anytime soon. Come on Apple give me a reason to upgrade!
 
I just don’t get it. The tech is there and it is stable. Apple still puts out high quality products, but as far as innovation goes, they are falling further and further behind.
Isn’t the tech being there the very definition of innovation? How is apple falling further and further behind?
 
he reasons for Apple's decision to scrap its initial plan to include Touch ID with the iPhone 13 remains unknown; however, the company may not have felt that the technology is mature enough yet to go mainstream in its flagship iPhones.

Basically meaning Apple is waiting for another company to prefect the technology and then Apple will come along and make it their own.
 
Booooo. Touch ID would have been great.

FaceID isn't bad but I miss touch id. not need to concentrate for .25 secs to align your face.
 
I hope Touch ID is kept in some form, it's good for visually impaired iPhone users and works well with VoiceOver. If you're not able to see then lining the phone up in front of your face to authenticate is difficult.

where did you read this? I think a blind person would have enough spatial awareness to use Face ID considered all the things they are able to do despite the lack of sight. It looks like it works well for blind people due to assistive technology https://www.afb.org/aw/19/2/15124
 
why restrict yourself to one, when you could have both :)

I see a couple of useful use-cases for this, so please Apple implement it for iPhone14 :)
 
Buy an Apple Watch? Are you serious???? Why should someone buy something they don't want or may not need just to log into their phone? FYI the UK is not the entire world. There are 50 individual states in the U.S along with serval other countries.

I’d be more willing to accept his argument if the Apple Watch unlock weren’t such a limited workaround that does nothing for app unlocks and payments. Whenever I’m grocery shopping at my local store, I can’t really use Apple Pay on the watch there as my loyalty card isn’t supported in Apple Pay. If I want to handle payments AND get my discounts, I need to use the MobilePay app which supports FaceID unlock but naturally won’t work with the mask on, so every time I try to pay I first need to cancel out of FaceID and then input my PIN. This process was much smoother on a TouchID phone. It’s even smoother on my Pixel where I can unlock the phone with a fingerprint, bring it to terminal and then have the loyalty card app supply the card and Google Pay take care of the rest.
 
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Please let me remove the flashlight and camera buttons from the lock screen. I've lost count how many times I've accidentally turned on the flashlight.
 
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It’s easy to guess why Apple dropped the Touch ID sensor. Apple will never use an optical sensor because those are totally insecure and can be fooled by a fake fingerprint, so the only option is ultrasonic. Qualcomm’s ultrasonic sensor is the only game in town. I have two Samsung devices (S10+ phone and Tab S7+ tablet) with that reader and I can say it sucks badly. It was so bad that people recommend recording the same finger three or four times to improve its recognition. Even having done that, it works less than half the time with “No Match” errors.

The easy conclusion is that Apple tried the sensor and ran far away when they saw how bad it is. The sensor stinks and isn’t ready for a flagship phone. With my Samsung’s, I use the code more often than not since the other biometrics never work (their facial recognition and fingerprint are both terrible).
 
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Is there any case for under-screen-touch-ID being better than iPad-Air-style-lock-button-touch-ID beyond "it's cool"?

The whole idea just sounds kind of hare-brained, expensive, and buggy; and now that lock-button is proven to work, pointless.

(I have no interest in a 13 over this 12 but I would upgrade for lock-touch-ID)
No. All solutions for under display fingerprint scanner (optical or ultrasonic) are still inferior to plain capacitive scanner.

Optical ones are slower, less accurate, and requires lighting up the secrion of the screen. Ultrasonic ones can interfere with screen protectors, and still not as accurate as capacitive.
 
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I'm getting tired of waiting for Apple to catch up with the competition. My biggest bug bear right now is wearing face masks and not being able to authenticate Apple Pay in stores. I've never found FaceID to be more convenient than TouchID... Fix it.
Me either. I absolutely hate face ID.
 
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